Can you please explain that in English? I find your complete lack of understanding of my intent annoying.



I'm sorry, but I explained that in an earlier post you didn't respond to.

I don't buy your explanation its totally absurd.

Besides my country is the one paying for each and every disaster we rain down upon the world what interest does an Australian have in defending these absurd wars?


No doubt about it though america leads the world in creativity when it comes to an excuse to start a war.

I'm not interested in your emotional opinion. I'm using this as an example of information manipulation in media studies, why is that so difficult for you to understand? I could explain it in depth, but experience has shown me that it would be a wasted effort.

I'm not interested in your emotional opinion. I'm using this as an example of information manipulation in media studies, why is that so difficult for you to understand? I could explain it in depth, but experience has shown me that it would be a wasted effort.

HOw could a list of every war this country has started be manipulation?

These are the facts

What The Media Wants You To Forget




he corporate media have been given their orders to throw the focus back on to Iran.

Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.

6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement of a planned underground (to avoid being bombed) enrichment facility. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.

9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.

10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.

11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question.

12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States.

13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that
Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries!

We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, "LIAR!" at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more.

Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them.

Please forward this comment to your social networks.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/182136

I LOVE these Iran vs Israel comparisons!!
There have been a number of these threads before...

1. Israel - Free press democratic society protects rights of all citizens with laws enacted and enforced for all Israeli men, women and
children. Only country in the region with these protections.
Complete protected freedom of religion for Christians, Muslims, Jews
and all other religions too - in Israel.

Now for Iran:


Introduction

The U.S. State Department considers Iran the world's "most active state sponsor of terrorism." U.S. officials say Iran provides funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups--most notably in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon--posing a security concern to the international community. Iran's declarations that it has successfully enriched uranium and developed new missile technology have heightened alarm in the United States and other countries that the Islamic Republic might transfer weapons of mass destruction (PDF) to militants or armed groups. Iran's leaders, who deny allegations they support terrorism (DerSpiegel), assert their rights under an international treaty to pursue nuclear power and insist their efforts are for peaceful purposes. But the international community remains unconvinced, imposing a growing list of sanctions against Tehran. Financial pressure has been applied by the UN Security Council, the European Union, international financial bodies, and a number of individual countries, including the United States.

Does Iran sponsor terrorism?

The United States has accused Iran of sponsoring terrorist organizations for decades, but in the post-9/11 era, the allegations have taken on added significance. Despite Iran's assistance following the U.S.-led campaign to oust the Taliban from Afghanistan, Iran was labeled part of an axis of evil--which also included Iraq and North Korea--by President George W. Bush in 2002. In March 2006, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, "Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions like Lebanon through Hezbollah in the Middle East, in the Palestinian Territories, and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq." For these reasons, in October 2007 the United States added Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to its list of foreign terrorist organizations, and has continued to link economic sanctions to alleged support for militants. In June 2010, the UN Security Council approved a fourth round of sanctions, expanding on its list of targeted Iranian entities--including members of the IRGC.

"Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions . . . and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq." -- Condoleezza Rice, former U.S. Secretary of State

http://www.cfr.org/iran/state-sponsors-iran/p9362



Oh C'mon Now!!



http://mingle2.com/topic/show/319625

The media doesn't want anybody to forget anything. The media's job
is to get more readership.



But it is fun and educational to examine the very real differences
between Iran and Israel. It is a comparison which always casts Israel
in the best possible light!

So if Israel is such a great country why do they refuse to join Iran and the rest of the civilized world in signing the nuclear non proliferation treaty?

Israel never needed to sign the NPT with their nuclear
program apparently and they have very limited facilities and have
never threatened anyone with nuclear attacks.

They did not sign the NPT because it was not relevant to them.

Iran DID sign the agreement to get access and assistance to limited
peaceful nuclear technology but they VIOLATED their agreement and
Iran DOES threaten the United States and Israel with public chants of
"Death to the United States" and "Death to Israel" while a the same
time in open violation of their sworn agreements they work feverishly
at developing high purity nuclear armament grade uranium and
intercontinental ballistic missile capability. They are a
radical Islamic theocracy which views all other nations in the
world not following their particularly virulent and violent brand
of radical Islam as enemies of Islam.

That is why everybody wants Iran to stop their nuclear arms
development activities completely, immediately and verifiably.

I have decided your a propagandist. You know the truth as well as I do.

You continue to promote lies and misinformation. What exactly is your agenda?

I have decided your a propagandist. You know the truth as well as I do.

You continue to promote lies and misinformation. What exactly is your agenda?

I take it you are joking!

They did not sign the NPT because it was not relevant to them.

Not at all madam.

As slow hand already knows Israel has refused to sigh the non proliferation treaty and submit to inspections.

I have already mentioned many times how Israel tried to sell atomic weapons to apartheid South Africa. What type of country would sell atomic weapons to that horrible regime?

Read about it here.

Secret South African documents reveal that Israel offered to sell nuclear warheads to the apartheid regime, providing the first official documentary evidence of the state's possession of nuclear weapons.

The "top secret" minutes of meetings between senior officials from the two countries in 1975 show that South Africa's defence minister, PW Botha, asked for the warheads and Shimon Peres, then Israel's defence minister and now its president, responded by offering them "in three sizes". The two men also signed a broad-ranging agreement governing military ties between the two countries that included a clause declaring that "the very existence of this agreement" was to remain secret.

The documents, uncovered by an American academic, Sasha Polakow-Suransky, in research for a book on the close relationship between the two countries, provide evidence that Israel has nuclear weapons despite its policy of "ambiguity" in neither confirming nor denying their existence.

The Israeli authorities tried to stop South Africa's post-apartheid government declassifying the documents at Polakow-Suransky's request and the revelations will be an embarrassment, particularly as this week's nuclear non-proliferation talks in New York focus on the Middle East.

They will also undermine Israel's attempts to suggest that, if it has nuclear weapons, it is a "responsible" power that would not misuse them, whereas countries such as Iran cannot be trusted.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons

This is the reality and not the manufactured reality created by the propagandists.

This is a FUN and educational isn't it?

I'd call this one more like FARCICAL and disinformational!



This was complete nonsense!



The original claim was made in reference to a comment that was
attributed to Shimon Peres by a third party describing "weapons in
three sizes" which 1) may not be an accurate description of the
conversation, 2) Never mentions "nuclear" in any way and 3) Never
mentions any kind of document and there apparently is no document
of any offer or transaction.

So go ahead and make any false and wild speculation you like!



It is all bluster and unwarranted inference!!! Just like so many
irresponsible and inane claims on this thread.



Here is what the Israelis said about the report originally:

Israel on Monday vehemently rejected claims in a British newspaper that it offered to sell nuclear warheads to Apartheid-era South Africa in 1975.

"There exists no basis in reality for the claims published this morning by The Guardian that in 1975 Israel negotiated with South Africa the exchange of nuclear weapons," the president's office said in a statement.

"Unfortunately, The Guardian elected to write its piece based on the selective interpretation of South African documents and not on concrete facts," said the statement. "Israel has never negotiated the exchange of nuclear weapons with South Africa. "There exists no Israeli document or Israeli signature on a document that such negotiations took place."

So if Israel is such a great country why do they refuse to join Iran and the rest of the civilized world in signing the nuclear non proliferation treaty?

Pakistan and India refused to sign it too, but i don't see you going off on a wild tangent on them ...

Did they attempt to sell atomic bombs to South Africa?
Are they demanding we Bomb Iran "just in case"?