Topic: PA teacher compares Nazi Germany to US under President Obama
InvictusV's photo
Thu 08/02/12 04:08 PM


Really?

"God , I hate the Germans," Eisenhower wrote to his wife, Mamie, in September, 1944. Earlier, in front of the British ambassador to Washington, he had said that all the 3,500 or so officers of the German General Staff should be "exterminated."

http://www.whale.to/b/bacque1.html

Mass starvation of Germans

http://www.whale.to/b/starvation_of_germans.html



Ron Paul mentions America's "secret prisons" and torture in front Congress and speaks out about America's obsession with Iran.

So who do you think these secret prisons are for??? Some of them already have people in them. They are "classified."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5tk9BRQ0Q&feature=plcp





Nice Balance:thumbsup:


LMAO

no photo
Thu 08/02/12 04:23 PM
Really? You think that's funny? sick It made me sick when I learned about it.


s1owhand's photo
Thu 08/02/12 04:28 PM

There is nothing about the United States that even remotely
resembles Nazi Germany. See for yourself here - it is no joke.

Warning graphic photos.

http://youtu.be/gG2QaN_LUao

http://www.qualityinformationpublishers.com/nazi-concentration-camp-pictures/

Read more here:

http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/holocaust/index.asp



Really?

"God , I hate the Germans," Eisenhower wrote to his wife, Mamie, in September, 1944.


laugh

Sure. Saying one hates the German military for all their atrocities
is comparable to exterminating systematically millions of people.

LMAO

laugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/02/12 04:39 PM

Come on. This guy made these remarks at a Tea Party rally, so he was just employing the usual political hyperbole. One could draw 'some' parallels between the Nazis and any government if one made empirical comparisons (i.e. bureaucracy etc.). It doesn't mean anything really.


my thoughts exactly, comparisons are easy to make and can be applied to anyone anywhere

I can find similarity between a serial killer and a nun, I could find similarities between 'liberators' and 'terrorists',,,its all in the choice of words and the motive behind them,,,

no photo
Thu 08/02/12 05:28 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/02/12 05:32 PM
It is not his remarks I would like to point out -- it is that he had a concentration camp and allowed German prisoners of war to starve to death.

He was no more humane than Hitler.

More than nine million Germans died as a result of deliberate Allied starvation and expulsion policies after the Second World War, including 1.5-2 million German prisoners.

Read all about it from a U.S. soldier who was there.

http://www.whale.to/b/in_eisenhowers.html


Not to mention the millions of people killed when they dropped the bomb.

He (Eisenhower) was technically a mass murderer. He probably was responsible for killing more people than Hitler himself.



no photo
Thu 08/02/12 05:42 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/02/12 05:48 PM
Please read about the millions of HUMAN BEINGS (Germans) that died under the leadership of Eisenhower in that death camp after the war and read what this soldier wrote about it and you will not be so quick to say "it couldn't happen here."

http://www.whale.to/b/in_eisenhowers.html

And of course we all know about how our government slaughtered and starved the native Americans in this country. Sure, we are the "good guys" who bow down to the reptile queen.

So we (Americans) need to get off of our moral high horses and say NO to those who govern us and tell us who to hate and who to go to war with.

We shall be better off to govern ourselves.


Then read a few books about the cities in Japan that were bombed.

See how much you love Ike then.



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Thu 08/02/12 05:47 PM

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Thu 08/02/12 09:09 PM
Millions????


Let's get some perspective here.

In early April 1945, the United States was responsible for 313,000 prisoners in Europe; by month's end this total had shot up to 2.1 million. After the fall of the Third Reich, the number rose to a staggering 5 million German and Axis POWs. Of those, an estimated 56,000, or about 1 percent, died—roughly equal to the mortality rate American POWs suffered in German hands.

Those held in Soviet-occupied territory fared far worse. Officially, the Soviet Union took 2,388,000 Germans and 1,097,000 combatants from other European nations as prisoners during and just after the war. More than a million of the German captives died. The immense suffering Germany and her Axis partners had caused surely played a key role in the treatment of enemy POWs. "In 1945, in Soviet eyes it was time to pay," wrote British military historian Max Arthur. "For most Russian soldiers, any instinct for pity or mercy had died somewhere on a hundred battlefields between Moscow and Warsaw."

Josef Stalin's regime was ill equipped to deal with prisoners: In 1943 as more enemy units fell into Soviet hands, death rates among POWs lingered around 60 percent. Roughly 570,000 German and Axis prisoners had already died in captivity. By March 1944, conditions began to improve, but for economic reasons: As its manpower was swallowed up in the war effort, the USSR turned to POWs as a surrogate work force. While POWs were not technically part of the gulag system, the lines were often blurred. Camps and detainment centers often comprised poorly constructed huts that offered scant protection from bitter Russian winter winds. The Soviet Union repatriated prisoners at irregular intervals, sometimes in large numbers. As late as 1953, however, at least 20,000 German POWs remained in Russia. After Stalin's death, those men were finally sent home.


http://www.historynet.com/german-pows-and-the-art-of-survival.htm

no photo
Thu 08/02/12 09:42 PM
I understand the 'numbers' have been debated quite a lot, including the number of Jews who died at Hitler's hands.


no photo
Thu 08/02/12 10:01 PM
Edited by volant7 on Thu 08/02/12 10:05 PM
many people dont know that germany was a christian nation before hitler

there were just as many christians killed as jews

and 40 million russians were put to death after returning home

the same satanic familys behind hitler are still in power secretly

today

youtube not yet completely controlled by the big 5 media cartel with

the one eye symbol


The Specter Haunting America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfqUVTMcoDM&feature=fvsr

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Thu 08/02/12 11:22 PM

I understand the 'numbers' have been debated quite a lot, including the number of Jews who died at Hitler's hands.




I know they have-David Irving and his clique of pseudo-historians springs to mind.

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 08/02/12 11:57 PM



I understand the 'numbers' have been debated quite a lot, including the number of Jews who died at Hitler's hands.




I believe there has never been a full and open inquiry into these figures.


HotRodDeluxe's photo
Fri 08/03/12 12:02 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Fri 08/03/12 12:05 AM




I understand the 'numbers' have been debated quite a lot, including the number of Jews who died at Hitler's hands.




I believe there has never been a full and open inquiry into these figures.




The numbers of the dead cannot be determined accurately, but after the war, figures were compiled from lists of missing persons, SS records and witness testimony.

Statistics of The Holocaust



Country Initial Jewish Population Estimated % Killed Estimated Killed Number of Survivors
POLAND 3,300,000 91% 3,000,000 300,000
USSR 3,020,000 36% 1,100,000 1,920,000
HUNGARY 800,000 74% 596,000 204,000
GERMANY 566,000 36% 200,000 366,000
FRANCE 350,000 22% 77,320 272,680
ROMANIA 342,000 84% 287,000 55,000
AUSTRIA 185,000 35% 65,000 120,000
LITHUANIA 168,000 85% 143,000 25,000
NETHERLANDS 140,000 71% 100,000 40,000
BOHEMIA
MORAVIA 118,310 60% 71,150 47,160
LATVIA 95,000 84% 80,000 15,000
SLOVAKIA 88,950 80% 71,000 17,950
YUGOSLAVIA 78,000 81% 63,300 14,700
GREECE 77,380 87% 67,000 10,380
BELGIUM 65,700 45% 28,900 36,800
ITALY 44,500 17% 7,680 36,820
BULGARIA 50,000 0% 50,000
DENMARK 7,800 .8% 60 7,740
ESTONIA 4,500 44% 2,000 2,500
LUXEMBOURG 3,500 55% 1,950 1,550
FINLAND 2,000 .03% 7 1,993
NORWAY 1,700 45% 762 938
TOTAL 9,508,340 63% 5,962,129 3,546,211

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-statistics.htm

Please use the link for a more 'readable' table.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 08/03/12 12:09 AM





I understand the 'numbers' have been debated quite a lot, including the number of Jews who died at Hitler's hands.




I believe there has never been a full and open inquiry into these figures.




The numbers of the dead cannot be determined accurately, but after the war, figures were compiled from lists of missing persons, SS records and witness testimony.

Statistics of The Holocaust



Country Initial Jewish Population Estimated % Killed Estimated Killed Number of Survivors
POLAND 3,300,000 91% 3,000,000 300,000
USSR 3,020,000 36% 1,100,000 1,920,000
HUNGARY 800,000 74% 596,000 204,000
GERMANY 566,000 36% 200,000 366,000
FRANCE 350,000 22% 77,320 272,680
ROMANIA 342,000 84% 287,000 55,000
AUSTRIA 185,000 35% 65,000 120,000
LITHUANIA 168,000 85% 143,000 25,000
NETHERLANDS 140,000 71% 100,000 40,000
BOHEMIA
MORAVIA 118,310 60% 71,150 47,160
LATVIA 95,000 84% 80,000 15,000
SLOVAKIA 88,950 80% 71,000 17,950
YUGOSLAVIA 78,000 81% 63,300 14,700
GREECE 77,380 87% 67,000 10,380
BELGIUM 65,700 45% 28,900 36,800
ITALY 44,500 17% 7,680 36,820
BULGARIA 50,000 0% 50,000
DENMARK 7,800 .8% 60 7,740
ESTONIA 4,500 44% 2,000 2,500
LUXEMBOURG 3,500 55% 1,950 1,550
FINLAND 2,000 .03% 7 1,993
NORWAY 1,700 45% 762 938
TOTAL 9,508,340 63% 5,962,129 3,546,211

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-statistics.htm

Please use the link for a more 'readable' table.


I would be more interested in your own words and opinions on the subject.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Fri 08/03/12 12:10 AM






I understand the 'numbers' have been debated quite a lot, including the number of Jews who died at Hitler's hands.




I believe there has never been a full and open inquiry into these figures.




The numbers of the dead cannot be determined accurately, but after the war, figures were compiled from lists of missing persons, SS records and witness testimony.

Statistics of The Holocaust



Country Initial Jewish Population Estimated % Killed Estimated Killed Number of Survivors
POLAND 3,300,000 91% 3,000,000 300,000
USSR 3,020,000 36% 1,100,000 1,920,000
HUNGARY 800,000 74% 596,000 204,000
GERMANY 566,000 36% 200,000 366,000
FRANCE 350,000 22% 77,320 272,680
ROMANIA 342,000 84% 287,000 55,000
AUSTRIA 185,000 35% 65,000 120,000
LITHUANIA 168,000 85% 143,000 25,000
NETHERLANDS 140,000 71% 100,000 40,000
BOHEMIA
MORAVIA 118,310 60% 71,150 47,160
LATVIA 95,000 84% 80,000 15,000
SLOVAKIA 88,950 80% 71,000 17,950
YUGOSLAVIA 78,000 81% 63,300 14,700
GREECE 77,380 87% 67,000 10,380
BELGIUM 65,700 45% 28,900 36,800
ITALY 44,500 17% 7,680 36,820
BULGARIA 50,000 0% 50,000
DENMARK 7,800 .8% 60 7,740
ESTONIA 4,500 44% 2,000 2,500
LUXEMBOURG 3,500 55% 1,950 1,550
FINLAND 2,000 .03% 7 1,993
NORWAY 1,700 45% 762 938
TOTAL 9,508,340 63% 5,962,129 3,546,211

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-statistics.htm

Please use the link for a more 'readable' table.


I would be more interested in your own words and opinions on the subject.


I don't understand, do you want me to make something up?

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 08/03/12 12:13 AM
Just your honest opinion will be adequate.


Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 12:15 AM

It is not his remarks I would like to point out -- it is that he had a concentration camp and allowed German prisoners of war to starve to death.

He was no more humane than Hitler.

More than nine million Germans died as a result of deliberate Allied starvation and expulsion policies after the Second World War, including 1.5-2 million German prisoners.

Read all about it from a U.S. soldier who was there.

http://www.whale.to/b/in_eisenhowers.html


Not to mention the millions of people killed when they dropped the bomb.

He (Eisenhower) was technically a mass murderer. He probably was responsible for killing more people than Hitler himself.



now tell who did the Expulsions?

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 12:17 AM

Just your honest opinion will be adequate.


Opinion on WHAT?
Facts you don't want the Man to use?

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 08/03/12 12:19 AM


Just your honest opinion will be adequate.


Opinion on WHAT?
Facts you don't want the Man to use?


Just his opinion....not cut and paste

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 06:27 AM



Just your honest opinion will be adequate.


Opinion on WHAT?
Facts you don't want the Man to use?


Just his opinion....not cut and paste
and what good would it do to you without Facts!
Sure glad no one else Pastes STUFF!laugh