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Topic: PA teacher compares Nazi Germany to US under President Obama
Optomistic69's photo
Fri 08/03/12 06:46 AM
Never read about this before now.
http://www.whale.to/b/eisenhower.html

Truly Amazing


Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans


s1owhand's photo
Fri 08/03/12 06:49 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 08/03/12 06:50 AM


There is nothing about the United States that even remotely
resembles Nazi Germany. See for yourself here - it is no joke.

Warning graphic photos.

http://youtu.be/gG2QaN_LUao

http://www.qualityinformationpublishers.com/nazi-concentration-camp-pictures/

Read more here:

http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/holocaust/index.asp



Really?

"God , I hate the Germans," Eisenhower wrote to his wife, Mamie, in September, 1944.


laugh

Sure. Saying one hates the German military for all their atrocities
is comparable to exterminating systematically millions of people.

LMAO

laugh


Please read about the millions of HUMAN BEINGS (Germans) that died under the leadership of Eisenhower in that death camp...



It is a gigantic steaming pile of nonsense!
There has never been any evidence of large scale US death camps.
How do you expect they could have hidden millions of German
civilians bodies? This is such garbage - all opinion with
distortions of facts and unwarranted extrapolations and no
evidence. So what else is new from the conspiracy theorist
community...

laugh

Read about how the Eisenhower Death Camp Conspiracy Theory has
been completely debunked here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses


Other Losses is a 1989 book by Canadian writer James Bacque, in
which Bacque alleges that U.S. General Dwight Eisenhower
intentionally caused the deaths by starvation or exposure of around
a million German prisoners of war held in Western internment camps
briefly after the Second World War. Other Losses charges that
hundreds of thousands of German prisoners that had fled the Eastern
front were designated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" in order to avoid
recognition under the third Geneva Convention, for the purpose of
carrying out their deaths through disease or slow starvation. Other
Losses cites documents in the U.S. National Archives and interviews
with people who stated they witnessed the events. The book claims
that there was a "method of genocide" in the banning of Red Cross
inspectors, the returning of food aid, the policy regarding shelter
building, and soldier ration policy.

The book has been extensively criticized by mainstream historians,
with one stating that it "makes charges that are demonstrably
absurd". Stephen Ambrose and seven other historians examined the
book soon after its publication, and came to the conclusion that it
was inaccurate and the product of conspiracy theory.

After the publication of Bacque's book, a panel of eight historians
gathered for a symposium in the Eisenhower Center for American
Studies[38] at the University of New Orleans from December 7–8,
1990 to review Bacque's work.[39] The introduction to a book later
published containing each panelists' papers noted that Bacque is a
Canadian novelist with no previous historical research or writing
experience.[40] The introduction concludes that "Other Losses is
seriously — nay, spectacularly — flawed in its most fundamental
aspects.".[39] The historians conclude that, among its many
problems, Other Losses:[39]

misuses documents
misreads documents
ignores contrary evidence
employs a statistical methodology that is hopelessly compromised
made no attempt to see the evidence he has gathered in relation to the broader situation
made no attempt to perform any comparative context
puts words into the mouths of the subjects of his oral history
ignores a readily available and absolutely critical source that decisively dealt with his central accusation

As a consequence of those and other shortcomings, the book "makes
charges that are demonstrably absurd."[39] Panel member Stephen
Ambrose later wrote in the New York Times:

Mr. Bacque is wrong on every major charge and nearly all his
minor ones. Eisenhower was not a Hitler, he did not run death
camps, German prisoners did not die by the hundreds of thousands,
there was a severe food shortage in 1945, there was nothing
sinister or secret about the "disarmed enemy forces" designation or
about the column "other losses." Mr. Bacque's "missing million"
were old men and young boys in the Volkssturm (People's Militia)
released without formal discharge and transfers of POWs to other
allies control areas. Maj. Ruediger Overmans of the German Office
of Military History in Freiburg who wrote the final volume of the
official German history of the war estimated that the total death
by all causes of German prisoners in American hands could not have
been greater than 56,000 approximately 1% of the over 5,000,000
German POWs in Allied hands exclusive of the Soviets.

laugh laugh laugh

Who is the next mass murderer of the week? Mickey Mouse?
Abraham Lincoln? Howdy Doody?

laugh


Optomistic69's photo
Fri 08/03/12 07:08 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 08/03/12 07:08 AM
Millions of people have been murdered and all we hear is.....


Its a conspiracy Theory


Where do I buy my tin foil hat





Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 07:15 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 08/03/12 07:17 AM

Never read about this before now.
http://www.whale.to/b/eisenhower.html

Truly Amazing


Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans


Garbage!
Didn't happen!
Now you could hold a Seance,and ask Uncle Joe how many POWs he's slaughtered in Siberia and elsewhere!
But that thing about Eisenhower is pure slander!
It was Hitler's Total War that killed those Germans!

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 07:20 AM

Really?

"God , I hate the Germans," Eisenhower wrote to his wife, Mamie, in September, 1944. Earlier, in front of the British ambassador to Washington, he had said that all the 3,500 or so officers of the German General Staff should be "exterminated."

http://www.whale.to/b/bacque1.html

Mass starvation of Germans

http://www.whale.to/b/starvation_of_germans.html



Ron Paul mentions America's "secret prisons" and torture in front Congress and speaks out about America's obsession with Iran.

So who do you think these secret prisons are for??? Some of them already have people in them. They are "classified."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5tk9BRQ0Q&feature=plcp


Is That why the Berlin Airlift!
To starve the Heck out the Germans!?

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 08/03/12 07:35 AM
Call it callousness, call it reprisal, call it a policy of hostile neglect: a million Germans taken prisoner by Eisenhower's armies died in captivity after the surrender.



One million fighting men allowed to die.

Remember a soldier does what he is told to do.

They were only doing their job.

Selective victimhood is sectarian

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 09:01 AM

Call it callousness, call it reprisal, call it a policy of hostile neglect: a million Germans taken prisoner by Eisenhower's armies died in captivity after the surrender.



One million fighting men allowed to die.

Remember a soldier does what he is told to do.

They were only doing their job.

Selective victimhood is sectarian
where is the evidence!
I see assertions Galore,but very little evidence!
Besides,none of the Germans I met after the War told any Stories like that!
Bring some Objective Evidence,or I would have to think whatever I want to think about this!

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 09:03 AM



There is nothing about the United States that even remotely
resembles Nazi Germany. See for yourself here - it is no joke.

Warning graphic photos.

http://youtu.be/gG2QaN_LUao

http://www.qualityinformationpublishers.com/nazi-concentration-camp-pictures/

Read more here:

http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/holocaust/index.asp



Really?

"God , I hate the Germans," Eisenhower wrote to his wife, Mamie, in September, 1944.


laugh

Sure. Saying one hates the German military for all their atrocities
is comparable to exterminating systematically millions of people.

LMAO

laugh


Please read about the millions of HUMAN BEINGS (Germans) that died under the leadership of Eisenhower in that death camp...



It is a gigantic steaming pile of nonsense!
There has never been any evidence of large scale US death camps.
How do you expect they could have hidden millions of German
civilians bodies? This is such garbage - all opinion with
distortions of facts and unwarranted extrapolations and no
evidence. So what else is new from the conspiracy theorist
community...

laugh

Read about how the Eisenhower Death Camp Conspiracy Theory has
been completely debunked here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses


Other Losses is a 1989 book by Canadian writer James Bacque, in
which Bacque alleges that U.S. General Dwight Eisenhower
intentionally caused the deaths by starvation or exposure of around
a million German prisoners of war held in Western internment camps
briefly after the Second World War. Other Losses charges that
hundreds of thousands of German prisoners that had fled the Eastern
front were designated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" in order to avoid
recognition under the third Geneva Convention, for the purpose of
carrying out their deaths through disease or slow starvation. Other
Losses cites documents in the U.S. National Archives and interviews
with people who stated they witnessed the events. The book claims
that there was a "method of genocide" in the banning of Red Cross
inspectors, the returning of food aid, the policy regarding shelter
building, and soldier ration policy.

The book has been extensively criticized by mainstream historians,
with one stating that it "makes charges that are demonstrably
absurd". Stephen Ambrose and seven other historians examined the
book soon after its publication, and came to the conclusion that it
was inaccurate and the product of conspiracy theory.

After the publication of Bacque's book, a panel of eight historians
gathered for a symposium in the Eisenhower Center for American
Studies[38] at the University of New Orleans from December 7–8,
1990 to review Bacque's work.[39] The introduction to a book later
published containing each panelists' papers noted that Bacque is a
Canadian novelist with no previous historical research or writing
experience.[40] The introduction concludes that "Other Losses is
seriously — nay, spectacularly — flawed in its most fundamental
aspects.".[39] The historians conclude that, among its many
problems, Other Losses:[39]

misuses documents
misreads documents
ignores contrary evidence
employs a statistical methodology that is hopelessly compromised
made no attempt to see the evidence he has gathered in relation to the broader situation
made no attempt to perform any comparative context
puts words into the mouths of the subjects of his oral history
ignores a readily available and absolutely critical source that decisively dealt with his central accusation

As a consequence of those and other shortcomings, the book "makes
charges that are demonstrably absurd."[39] Panel member Stephen
Ambrose later wrote in the New York Times:

Mr. Bacque is wrong on every major charge and nearly all his
minor ones. Eisenhower was not a Hitler, he did not run death
camps, German prisoners did not die by the hundreds of thousands,
there was a severe food shortage in 1945, there was nothing
sinister or secret about the "disarmed enemy forces" designation or
about the column "other losses." Mr. Bacque's "missing million"
were old men and young boys in the Volkssturm (People's Militia)
released without formal discharge and transfers of POWs to other
allies control areas. Maj. Ruediger Overmans of the German Office
of Military History in Freiburg who wrote the final volume of the
official German history of the war estimated that the total death
by all causes of German prisoners in American hands could not have
been greater than 56,000 approximately 1% of the over 5,000,000
German POWs in Allied hands exclusive of the Soviets.

laugh laugh laugh

Who is the next mass murderer of the week? Mickey Mouse?
Abraham Lincoln? Howdy Doody?

laugh



Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/03/12 09:04 AM



There is nothing about the United States that even remotely
resembles Nazi Germany. See for yourself here - it is no joke.

Warning graphic photos.

http://youtu.be/gG2QaN_LUao

http://www.qualityinformationpublishers.com/nazi-concentration-camp-pictures/

Read more here:

http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/holocaust/index.asp



Really?

"God , I hate the Germans," Eisenhower wrote to his wife, Mamie, in September, 1944.


laugh

Sure. Saying one hates the German military for all their atrocities
is comparable to exterminating systematically millions of people.

LMAO

laugh


Please read about the millions of HUMAN BEINGS (Germans) that died under the leadership of Eisenhower in that death camp...



It is a gigantic steaming pile of nonsense!
There has never been any evidence of large scale US death camps.
How do you expect they could have hidden millions of German
civilians bodies? This is such garbage - all opinion with
distortions of facts and unwarranted extrapolations and no
evidence. So what else is new from the conspiracy theorist
community...

laugh

Read about how the Eisenhower Death Camp Conspiracy Theory has
been completely debunked here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses


Other Losses is a 1989 book by Canadian writer James Bacque, in
which Bacque alleges that U.S. General Dwight Eisenhower
intentionally caused the deaths by starvation or exposure of around
a million German prisoners of war held in Western internment camps
briefly after the Second World War. Other Losses charges that
hundreds of thousands of German prisoners that had fled the Eastern
front were designated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" in order to avoid
recognition under the third Geneva Convention, for the purpose of
carrying out their deaths through disease or slow starvation. Other
Losses cites documents in the U.S. National Archives and interviews
with people who stated they witnessed the events. The book claims
that there was a "method of genocide" in the banning of Red Cross
inspectors, the returning of food aid, the policy regarding shelter
building, and soldier ration policy.

The book has been extensively criticized by mainstream historians,
with one stating that it "makes charges that are demonstrably
absurd". Stephen Ambrose and seven other historians examined the
book soon after its publication, and came to the conclusion that it
was inaccurate and the product of conspiracy theory.

After the publication of Bacque's book, a panel of eight historians
gathered for a symposium in the Eisenhower Center for American
Studies[38] at the University of New Orleans from December 7–8,
1990 to review Bacque's work.[39] The introduction to a book later
published containing each panelists' papers noted that Bacque is a
Canadian novelist with no previous historical research or writing
experience.[40] The introduction concludes that "Other Losses is
seriously — nay, spectacularly — flawed in its most fundamental
aspects.".[39] The historians conclude that, among its many
problems, Other Losses:[39]

misuses documents
misreads documents
ignores contrary evidence
employs a statistical methodology that is hopelessly compromised
made no attempt to see the evidence he has gathered in relation to the broader situation
made no attempt to perform any comparative context
puts words into the mouths of the subjects of his oral history
ignores a readily available and absolutely critical source that decisively dealt with his central accusation

As a consequence of those and other shortcomings, the book "makes
charges that are demonstrably absurd."[39] Panel member Stephen
Ambrose later wrote in the New York Times:

Mr. Bacque is wrong on every major charge and nearly all his
minor ones. Eisenhower was not a Hitler, he did not run death
camps, German prisoners did not die by the hundreds of thousands,
there was a severe food shortage in 1945, there was nothing
sinister or secret about the "disarmed enemy forces" designation or
about the column "other losses." Mr. Bacque's "missing million"
were old men and young boys in the Volkssturm (People's Militia)
released without formal discharge and transfers of POWs to other
allies control areas. Maj. Ruediger Overmans of the German Office
of Military History in Freiburg who wrote the final volume of the
official German history of the war estimated that the total death
by all causes of German prisoners in American hands could not have
been greater than 56,000 approximately 1% of the over 5,000,000
German POWs in Allied hands exclusive of the Soviets.

laugh laugh laugh

Who is the next mass murderer of the week? Mickey Mouse?
Abraham Lincoln? Howdy Doody?

laugh


Pinky and The Brain along with Ren and Stimpy!
Equally absurd!

no photo
Fri 08/03/12 09:15 AM
Facts are facts. History is history. You cannot disprove any of this as much as people want to rewrite history.

It is what it is. You can't change it.

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