Topic: Do you believe in Satan?
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Sat 06/23/12 12:36 PM
Virgins saved for later use


"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves."

Numbers 31.17,18

Moses flies into a rage because his returning Israelite war party has slaughtered only the adult male Midianites!

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 06/23/12 02:37 PM

"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.

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Sat 06/23/12 02:39 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/23/12 02:40 PM


"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.


CowboyGH's photo
Sat 06/23/12 03:00 PM



"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.

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Sat 06/23/12 03:26 PM




"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.


(sigh)

ok

(walks from the room shaking her head.)

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Sat 06/23/12 03:29 PM





"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.


(sigh)

ok

(walks from the room shaking her head.)


laugh laugh laugh

flowerforyou

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 06/27/12 07:03 PM




"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.

I use these vary rarely...

laugh rofl
Meaning no disrespect,

By your faulty reasoning this would mean that God did not create.

By your reasoning 'Authority' moved upon the Abyss... 'Authority' gave us oceans and sky. Etc.

Please quit attempting to tempt God's children with a false god and equating Jesus with God as though he is.

'Authority' is a tool of man (so one man may exalt himself above others, or that a group of men might claim to be exalted above God or equal to him at a place of worship).

God simply IS (No label of 'authority' necessary).

To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).

'We shall make man in our image... Male and Female created he them.'

(my reasoning also may be false... Yet my reasoning fits snuggly within the Word of the Begining... Yours does not so fit, without circular logic, naming of meanings, renaming of the same meanings in a new catagory, and then melding them by smoke and mirrors)


CowboyGH's photo
Wed 06/27/12 10:25 PM





"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.

I use these vary rarely...

laugh rofl
Meaning no disrespect,

By your faulty reasoning this would mean that God did not create.

By your reasoning 'Authority' moved upon the Abyss... 'Authority' gave us oceans and sky. Etc.

Please quit attempting to tempt God's children with a false god and equating Jesus with God as though he is.

'Authority' is a tool of man (so one man may exalt himself above others, or that a group of men might claim to be exalted above God or equal to him at a place of worship).

God simply IS (No label of 'authority' necessary).

To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).

'We shall make man in our image... Male and Female created he them.'

(my reasoning also may be false... Yet my reasoning fits snuggly within the Word of the Begining... Yours does not so fit, without circular logic, naming of meanings, renaming of the same meanings in a new catagory, and then melding them by smoke and mirrors)




God doesn't mean plainly "authority". It is "person(s)" of authority. We know not God's name, we are not worthy to utter the name, therefore we refer to him as "God" showing God's power over us.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 06/27/12 10:29 PM





"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.

I use these vary rarely...

laugh rofl
Meaning no disrespect,

By your faulty reasoning this would mean that God did not create.

By your reasoning 'Authority' moved upon the Abyss... 'Authority' gave us oceans and sky. Etc.

Please quit attempting to tempt God's children with a false god and equating Jesus with God as though he is.

'Authority' is a tool of man (so one man may exalt himself above others, or that a group of men might claim to be exalted above God or equal to him at a place of worship).

God simply IS (No label of 'authority' necessary).

To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).

'We shall make man in our image... Male and Female created he them.'

(my reasoning also may be false... Yet my reasoning fits snuggly within the Word of the Begining... Yours does not so fit, without circular logic, naming of meanings, renaming of the same meanings in a new catagory, and then melding them by smoke and mirrors)





Please quit attempting to tempt God's children with a false god and equating Jesus with God as though he is.


What do you mean, quit equating Jesus with God? Jesus IS God. Jesus is whom created us eg., these are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens.

Jesus never refers to his father as OUR father, or anything of such. Jesus only refers to him as HIS father, ect.

And more verses referring to Jesus as God would even be in the 10 commandments "thou shalt not temp the LORD thy God."

Or in other words "thou shalt not temp Jesus your God".

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 06/27/12 10:32 PM





"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.

I use these vary rarely...

laugh rofl
Meaning no disrespect,

By your faulty reasoning this would mean that God did not create.

By your reasoning 'Authority' moved upon the Abyss... 'Authority' gave us oceans and sky. Etc.

Please quit attempting to tempt God's children with a false god and equating Jesus with God as though he is.

'Authority' is a tool of man (so one man may exalt himself above others, or that a group of men might claim to be exalted above God or equal to him at a place of worship).

God simply IS (No label of 'authority' necessary).

To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).

'We shall make man in our image... Male and Female created he them.'

(my reasoning also may be false... Yet my reasoning fits snuggly within the Word of the Begining... Yours does not so fit, without circular logic, naming of meanings, renaming of the same meanings in a new catagory, and then melding them by smoke and mirrors)





To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).


Nobody is equal to God, especially no man, what are you talking about?

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men

He only was in the likeness of a man in his appearance, in his form. But he was God in the flesh.

msharmony's photo
Wed 06/27/12 10:33 PM
I do believe there exists the Devil.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 06/27/12 11:34 PM






"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.

I use these vary rarely...

laugh rofl
Meaning no disrespect,

By your faulty reasoning this would mean that God did not create.

By your reasoning 'Authority' moved upon the Abyss... 'Authority' gave us oceans and sky. Etc.

Please quit attempting to tempt God's children with a false god and equating Jesus with God as though he is.

'Authority' is a tool of man (so one man may exalt himself above others, or that a group of men might claim to be exalted above God or equal to him at a place of worship).

God simply IS (No label of 'authority' necessary).

To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).

'We shall make man in our image... Male and Female created he them.'

(my reasoning also may be false... Yet my reasoning fits snuggly within the Word of the Begining... Yours does not so fit, without circular logic, naming of meanings, renaming of the same meanings in a new catagory, and then melding them by smoke and mirrors)





To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).


Nobody is equal to God, especially no man, what are you talking about?

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men

He only was in the likeness of a man in his appearance, in his form. But he was God in the flesh.

Obviously you do not understand what I said.

so be it.

What does the smoke and mirrors have to do with what I posted?

However I will have a go at it.

You stated that 'Nobody is equal to God, especially no man...'

Jesus was born of Woman as is every man.

Jesus was but a man.

Not a God.

There is but ONE God.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 06/28/12 10:52 AM







"God" means being of authority.


To most people and to most religions who claim to worship God, this is not true.

The God they worship is "the creator."

A "being of authority" could be the president or the Pope. They are not "God."

Therefore, the common definition of "God" is "the Creator"


"God" is not the creator specifically. The LORD God is the creator.

Genesis 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Jesus Christ is the LORD God. Thus Jesus Christ is our God, our authority. The one whom has power over us.



rofl rofl rofl

Excuse me?

"Lord" is simply a title of sorts.

Ask the royal family.

Now you are implying that the Lord God and God are not the same thing.




They aren't. That's why both titles are used througout the scriptures. If it was speaking of the same exact being, it wouldn't need to use two different titles consecutively through the entire bible.

They are one "God". For again "God" in itself is not specifically a being. It's a word to show authority. Heck the dictionary has "God" and "lord" as synonyms. But again as to not create confusion on whom is being referred to, the two different titles were used eg., God and LORD God.

I use these vary rarely...

laugh rofl
Meaning no disrespect,

By your faulty reasoning this would mean that God did not create.

By your reasoning 'Authority' moved upon the Abyss... 'Authority' gave us oceans and sky. Etc.

Please quit attempting to tempt God's children with a false god and equating Jesus with God as though he is.

'Authority' is a tool of man (so one man may exalt himself above others, or that a group of men might claim to be exalted above God or equal to him at a place of worship).

God simply IS (No label of 'authority' necessary).

To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).

'We shall make man in our image... Male and Female created he them.'

(my reasoning also may be false... Yet my reasoning fits snuggly within the Word of the Begining... Yours does not so fit, without circular logic, naming of meanings, renaming of the same meanings in a new catagory, and then melding them by smoke and mirrors)





To be equal to God requires a man become one in equality with a woman (and both have eyes fixed firmly upon Gods Glory and not their own).


Nobody is equal to God, especially no man, what are you talking about?

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men

He only was in the likeness of a man in his appearance, in his form. But he was God in the flesh.

Obviously you do not understand what I said.

so be it.

What does the smoke and mirrors have to do with what I posted?

However I will have a go at it.

You stated that 'Nobody is equal to God, especially no man...'

Jesus was born of Woman as is every man.

Jesus was but a man.

Not a God.

There is but ONE God.



Jesus was born of Woman as is every man.


Jesus was only born of the flesh to fulfill prophecies and come to Earth to complete the now old covenant and give us a new. Jesus has always existed.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Then we have the Word becoming flesh and dwelling among us eg., Jesus. Jesus was only temporarily of the flesh. Before and after he was no flesh.

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Tue 07/24/12 02:20 PM

I do believe there exists the Devil.
So do I. But I believe to understand him and God, there needs to be a spiritual revelation and awakening that our spirit has to be open to. For me, it took having a personal experience with God :-)

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Tue 07/24/12 08:21 PM
I believe he exists,,,,

I do not believe 'in him' in the sense of faith in him though, as I believe him to be the greates confuser/deceiver/liar,,,

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Tue 07/24/12 08:30 PM

I believe he exists,,,,

I do not believe 'in him' in the sense of faith in him though, as I believe him to be the greates confuser/deceiver/liar,,,


Yep, and very possibly the ruler(god) of this world.

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/24/12 08:37 PM


I believe he exists,,,,

I do not believe 'in him' in the sense of faith in him though, as I believe him to be the greates confuser/deceiver/liar,,,


Yep, and very possibly the ruler(god) of this world.


I absolutely believe he has a ruling position over most people through their egos,,,and their flesh

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/24/12 08:37 PM


I believe he exists,,,,

I do not believe 'in him' in the sense of faith in him though, as I believe him to be the greates confuser/deceiver/liar,,,


Yep, and very possibly the ruler(god) of this world.


I absolutely believe he has a ruling position over most people through their egos,,,and their flesh

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Tue 07/24/12 08:41 PM



I believe he exists,,,,

I do not believe 'in him' in the sense of faith in him though, as I believe him to be the greates confuser/deceiver/liar,,,


Yep, and very possibly the ruler(god) of this world.


I absolutely believe he has a ruling position over most people through their egos,,,and their flesh



eeewww he makes my flesh crawl alright. Gag me with a spoon!!tongue2

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Tue 07/24/12 08:42 PM
In the Jewish faith, Satan was viewed as a Trickster, whose role was to test people according to G-d's instructions.