I realize this will set off a flurry of activity, or not. But could our lives be all preordained? After doing only a little research on the subject it seems most religious books, i.e. Bible, Quran, and the Torah all claim this is truth. You say, we have free will, but do we? It would surely explain alot if we don't. It says, nothing is by accident and that every action, is preordained, nothing is by chance. Our minds can't wrap around this concept, but does anyone here think it might be possible.

I dont believe in pre ordination in the sense that everything happening was 'planned' to happen that way

I think we all have a multitude of possibilities and paths set before us and God knows the outcome of each path, but he still gives us the CHOICE of which we will take,,,

I have just been reading Ephesians. In Eph 2.10 'For we are His workmanship created in Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.' I think we have a choice, One way is the best way though :-)

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As a Christian I obviously do I could really get into the topic but you don't want to read everything I could write. Simply put we have free will but God knows everything past and present and knows exactly how you will react. As such yes we have free will but everything that occurs happens for a reason and God knows the beginning and the end.

Think of it like this. If your a nerd you'll understand. If I build a computer program that has its own AI. That AI is making its own decisions but I designed it I know exactly what the AI will do, how it will do it. So now I can picture the future and if I want I can throw things in and the AI will react of its own free will.

Trying to think of a lamer way to explain it for all the non tech people.

You have a puppy, you starve that puppy and then provide it with food. Does the puppy have free will to eat the food? Yes it does but you know how the puppy thinks and you know he will eat the food.

Absolutely everything in life happens for a reason. Every pain every heart break, every death every happy moment!

I've gone through hell in my life but today I am who I am because of that hell. Things happened to me which have saved lives. I've saved suicidal girls who suffered abuse, I've saved teenage boys from killing themselves. I've helped people get clean from pornography. I've helped people forgive themselves after some prick molested them. I've helped serial killers (No I'm not a killer lol, just met a lot of shady characters in my.life).

All of my heart ache every last one has helped me help others.

Every single.peice of pain has made me a stronger person!

I wouldn't change a single thing about my life, I am proud of everything and anything I have gone through!