4. A high ranking Israeli officer was interviewed several years later and clear states that Israel had identified the USS Liberty by June 7, 1967. This is consistent with the several documented overflights by Israeli slow-flying aircraft on the day prior to the attack which were clearly taking our picture for identification purposes



Several documented Israeli slow-flying aircraft........clearly identified the USS Liberty..

And of course the act of aggression that was about to take place could have been Jeopardized by the American Spy ship or at least a prerecorded account of the lead-up to the six-day-war


the SURVIVORS deserve the truth as do those slain on this attempted false flag attack.....

We must remember everybody that died....everybody

It must never happen again and the "special" relationship we have with Israel needs to be looked in a realistic way and not in the propagated way our controled corperate media see's it.

The survivors have had the truth of the matter a long time ago...



http://mingle2.com/topic/show/305475?page=4

I tend to agree with the SURVIVORS account of the event, based on the testimony I have read its absurd to suggest any other conclusion.


IN JUNE 1967 jet aircraft and motor torpedo boats of the Defense Forces of the State of Israel brutally assaulted the American naval intelligence-gathering ship, USS Liberty, while in international waters off the coast of the Sinai Peninsula in the Mediterranean Sea. The attack was preceded by more than six hours of intense lowlevel surveillance by Israeli photo reconnaissance aircraft, which buzzed the ship as low as 200 feet directly overhead. The carefully orchestrated assault that followed was initiated by high performance jet aircraft. This was followed by slower and more maneuverable jets carrying napalm, and was finally turned over to lethal torpedo boats, which blasted a forty-foot hole in the ship’s side. The attack lasted more than two hours, deliberately killing 34 Americans and wounding at least 171 others. Over 821 rocket, cannon and machine gun holes were inflicted. When the Liberty stubbornly remained afloat despite her damage, Israeli forces machine-gunned her life rafts, firefighters, stretcher bearers, and sent troops carrying helicopters to finish the job, no survivors were to be taken.http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/20/gordon-duff-law-needed-to-protect-the-uss-liberty-survivors/

I know you HATE Israel but several investigations including the
official US investigation of the event have concluded that it was
an accident.

So rant on but your rants against Israel will still go against
common sense that Israel would never wittingly fire on their
closest and often sole military and politically ally - the US and
seriously jeopardize their best friend during wartime.



See again Scenario 2 above.

C'mon now. Let go of you vehement Israel-hatred and be logical about
it.

As others have said. It would not be the first regrettable friendly
fire accident. Just one involving Israel - that you and a bunch of
other Israel-haters continuously jump on despite the fact that the
US Govt has found it to be accidental and we accepted the Israeli
sincere apology for the incident decades ago.



Or - Just beat the horse. The poor horse lying down. Not breathing not
moving a muscle. Smack that horseflesh. Beat beat beat beat the
wretched inanimate beast. The more you flog her the easier it is
for everyone to see the irrational hatred and lose respect for
the argument. Helps show that the arguments are illegitimate.

Easily. For starters, the origin of 6 million.

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Jews-History&ScripturalOriginOfThe6MillionNumber.html
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t712023/

And finally...

http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/02/145-references-to-6000000-jews-prior-to.html?zx=40a5530f38313113

Six million is a religion based propaganda number. How closely it was to reality on 4 different uses, well. Let's let the evidence in corpses decide that. Now, onto the Soviet union... Didn't they kill more than 4 times that number in their purge? Where's the outrage over that?

Sorry I believe the eye witness testimony of the survivors not the propaganda put out by our controled corperate press and government.


I, Ward Boston, Jr. do declare that the following statement is true and complete:

For more than 30 years, I have remained silent on the topic of USS Liberty. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them.However, recent attempts to rewrite history compel me to share the truth.

In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th. The late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, president of the Court, and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation into the attack, despite the fact that we both had estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry into an attack of this magnitude would take at least six months to conduct.

Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., then Commander-in-chief, Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR), at his headquarters in London, had charged Admiral Kidd (in a letter dated June 10, 1967) to “inquire into all the pertinent facts and circumstances leading to and connected with the armed attack; damage resulting therefrom; and deaths of and injuries to Naval personnel.” Despite the short amount of time we were given, we gathered a vast amount of evidence, including hours of heartbreaking testimony from the young survivors.

The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.

I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American. I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. 10. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/20/gordon-duff-law-needed-to-protect-the-uss-liberty-survivors/

Yes I know that you are convinced that it could not have been
an accident. That the USS Liberty did not make any errors and
that the Israeli military did not make any errors.



Of course the USS Liberty was attacked by IDF forces.
That was never disputed. They tried to sink a US vessel.
The US and Israel have never been enemies.
It was friendly fire.

Israel apologized immediately.
It was found to be accidental and we eventually accepted an apology.


Scenario 1. Israel intentionally tries to murder a whole bunch of
Americans. Americans who are one of their only real allies in a largely
Islamic world hell bent on their destruction. Americans who have
steadfastly assisted them since their early desperate days to find
a safe haven. They are happy to risk the ire, condemnation and loss
of the world's greatest superpower as an ally by sinking one of their best and only friend's naval vessels.

Scenario 2. During a rapidly developing conflict in 1967 where they
are being attacked from all sides the Israelis are shooting at
anyone who is shooting at them. They quickly and mistakenly fire
at a large vessel which the have found to be near the source of
some incoming artillery. It turns out they blew it big time. They
actually fire at one of their staunchest ally's ships which
was near that location doing surveillance and actually hoping to
assist them. They apologize profusely but the damage is done and
44 years later anti-Israel ideologues still point to the accident
as some nefarious plot.



Still can't figure it out?
These two scenarios so equal in probability that it could go either way.

Just plain puzzled are we?

I will give you a hint....

It was no dastardly plot to shoot themselves in the foot and stick
their finger in the eye of the world's greatest military superpower
and ruin their otherwise good relationship with their best ally.

At worst, it was an accident based on the nature of the threat
during a time of intense warfare under the threat of extinction.



But those who HATE Israel with great vigor repeatedly bring up the
incident 44 years later in their effort to smear the Israelis any
chance they get.

Sounds vaguely familiar.

Sorry I dont ignore testimony from survivors and blindly support Israel. I tend to agree that the event happened exactly as the survivors described it.


Our flag was flying until the jets shot it away. We then hoisted another, and that was also shot away. Finally, we ran up the huge holiday flag - one of these shot-up flags is on display at the museum at the NSA Cryptologic Museum at Ft. Meade, Maryland. We were slowly sailing into the wind so the flag was standing out at all times and, while the pilots might not have seen it in a bow-on or stern-on attack posture, they certainly saw it as they crisscrossed the ship, attacking from both port and starboard. Please note that these pilots saw well enough to hit the four 50 cal machine gun mounts with at least two rockets each, put at least one rocket through all topside hatches/doorways, hit all antenna pods with two or more rockets, blew up the two small boats on board, and hit the only gasoline drum on board. Again, their speed allowed this degree of accuracy and they obviously had knowledge of our strategic targets.
Liberty survivor Joe Lentini

love that Israel-Hating Site you are constantly quoting!

They bring up the Garbage daily which has been debunked for 45years!
Quite an achievement!

Name that High-Ranker!
Don't hold back!

yep,Stormfront,as reliable as anything!
As reliable as the KKK,Irving and (GULP) David Duke!

and the other Sites are in the same Vein as Stormfront!

Wed 06/06/12 03:14 AM

Sorry I dont ignore testimony from survivors and blindly support Israel. I tend to agree that the event happened exactly as the survivors described it.


Our flag was flying until the jets shot it away. We then hoisted another, and that was also shot away. Finally, we ran up the huge holiday flag - one of these shot-up flags is on display at the museum at the NSA Cryptologic Museum at Ft. Meade, Maryland. We were slowly sailing into the wind so the flag was standing out at all times and, while the pilots might not have seen it in a bow-on or stern-on attack posture, they certainly saw it as they crisscrossed the ship, attacking from both port and starboard. Please note that these pilots saw well enough to hit the four 50 cal machine gun mounts with at least two rockets each, put at least one rocket through all topside hatches/doorways, hit all antenna pods with two or more rockets, blew up the two small boats on board, and hit the only gasoline drum on board. Again, their speed allowed this degree of accuracy and they obviously had knowledge of our strategic targets.
Liberty survivor Joe Lentini

he was on Board,but is guessing at the Intention of the IDF-Pilots,you are guessing at the Intent of the IDF!
If it had been an Egyptian Ship masquerading as an US-Navy-Vessel,they would have behaved exactly like tat
Or do you think they would have been incapable to put on a False Flag Operation?
Man,you are in the middle of an Ocean on a Shingle with that!
actually,the Survivor is unable,incapable to judge the intent of the IDF!
All he really can testify to,is that they were attacked,and how the Attack took place!
What he thinks is irrelevant in a Court of Inquiry!
All he and the others can do is testify to the Facts of the Attack,anything else is Conjecture!
What you been putting in several Threads about that Incident is also pure Conjecture!
But it does get better with the telling,does it?

every testimony is the same Mr Conrad do you think 45 years later these men would be demanding justice if they did not believe in their hearts and souls they are victims of a horrific attack?

They are far more qualified to speak on the subject than you or I for sure. I will rely on their sworn testimony over propaganda and spin every time.

I, Ward Boston, Jr. do declare that the following statement is true and complete:

For more than 30 years, I have remained silent on the topic of USS Liberty. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them.However, recent attempts to rewrite history compel me to share the truth.

In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th. The late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, president of the Court, and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation into the attack, despite the fact that we both had estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry into an attack of this magnitude would take at least six months to conduct.

Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., then Commander-in-chief, Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR), at his headquarters in London, had charged Admiral Kidd (in a letter dated June 10, 1967) to “inquire into all the pertinent facts and circumstances leading to and connected with the armed attack; damage resulting therefrom; and deaths of and injuries to Naval personnel.” Despite the short amount of time we were given, we gathered a vast amount of evidence, including hours of heartbreaking testimony from the young survivors.

The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.

I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American. I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. 10. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/20/gordon-duff-law-needed-to-protect-the-uss-liberty-survivors/

Juts the Facts,Mister,to paraphrase a TV-Cop!
You are grabbing on their Conjecture,run with it,and make another little Conspiracy-Theory out of those Conjectures!
Just the Facts,Mister,just the Facts!

The facts Mr conrad

, Ward Boston, Jr. do declare that the following statement is true and complete:

For more than 30 years, I have remained silent on the topic of USS Liberty. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them.However, recent attempts to rewrite history compel me to share the truth.

In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th. The late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, president of the Court, and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation into the attack, despite the fact that we both had estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry into an attack of this magnitude would take at least six months to conduct.

Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., then Commander-in-chief, Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR), at his headquarters in London, had charged Admiral Kidd (in a letter dated June 10, 1967) to “inquire into all the pertinent facts and circumstances leading to and connected with the armed attack; damage resulting therefrom; and deaths of and injuries to Naval personnel.” Despite the short amount of time we were given, we gathered a vast amount of evidence, including hours of heartbreaking testimony from the young survivors.

The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.

I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American. I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. 10. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/20/gordon-duff-law-needed-to-protect-the-uss-liberty-survivors/

What did we speculate? Stormfront love Irving and his chums. Vile filth the lot of them.

Less than an hour after the attack, Israel told Washington its forces had committed a 'tragic error.' Later, Israel claimed it had mistaken 'Liberty' for an ancient Egyptian horse transport. US Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, and Joint Chiefs of Staff head, Admiral Thomas Moorer, insisted the Israeli attack was deliberate and designed to sink 'Liberty.' So did three CIA reports; one asserted Israel's Defense Minister, Gen. Moshe Dayan, had personally ordered the attack.