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Topic: The Attack on the USS Liberty
Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/18/12 12:32 AM



I, Ward Boston, Jr. do declare that the following statement is true and complete:

For more than 30 years, I have remained silent on the topic of USS Liberty. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them.However, recent attempts to rewrite history compel me to share the truth.

In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th. The late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, president of the Court, and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation into the attack, despite the fact that we both had estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry into an attack of this magnitude would take at least six months to conduct.

Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., then Commander-in-chief, Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR), at his headquarters in London, had charged Admiral Kidd (in a letter dated June 10, 1967) to “inquire into all the pertinent facts and circumstances leading to and connected with the armed attack; damage resulting therefrom; and deaths of and injuries to Naval personnel.” Despite the short amount of time we were given, we gathered a vast amount of evidence, including hours of heartbreaking testimony from the young survivors.

The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.

I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. 10. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.


This is an affidavit it is sworn testimony, if this man were lieing he could be taken to court for slander or false testimony. I am sure some jewish group would have if it could be a proven lie.



It may be an affadavit, but it contains emotional language and opinion, not facts.

a). I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American.

He is certain, but it doesn't make it fact.

b). Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 (American) sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an (American) ship and murder its entire crew.

If the Israelis believed the vessel to be hostile (and not American), I'm sure that this was their intention.

c). This is an affidavit it is sworn testimony, if this man were lieing he could be taken to court for slander or false testimony. I am sure some jewish group would have if it could be a proven lie.

Why? If it is what he believes to be the case it's not libel, but it might not be true either.

Stop defending the horrific coverup and give the souls of the dead sailors somejustice eh?
what Coverup?
That one or more of the Crew Shamelessly lied to further some Vendetta?
It is them who disrespect their fallen Comrades!

s1owhand's photo
Mon 06/18/12 08:17 AM
There was no cover-up. The Israelis accepted responsibility for their mistake quickly
and apologized immediately and profusely.

The US accepted their apology.

Read more about the incident in the Wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Attack on the Liberty
Events leading to the attack

During the Six-Day War between Israel and several Arab nations, the United States of America maintained a neutral country status.[8] Several days before the war began, the USS Liberty was ordered to proceed to the eastern Mediterranean area to perform a signal intelligence collection mission in international waters near the north coast of Sinai, Egypt.[9] After the war erupted, due to concerns about her safety as she approached her patrol area, several messages were sent to Liberty to increase her allowable closest point of approach (CPA) to Egypt's and Israel's coasts from 12.5 nmi (14.4 mi; 23.2 km) and 6.5 nmi (7.5 mi; 12.0 km), respectively, to 20 nmi (23 mi; 37 km) and 15 nmi (17 mi; 28 km), and then later to 100 nmi (120 mi; 190 km) for both countries.[10] Unfortunately, due to ineffective message handling and routing, the CPA change messages were not received until after the attack.[10]

According to Israeli sources, at the start of the war on June 5, General Yitzhak Rabin (then IDF Chief of Staff) informed Commander Ernest Carl Castle, the American Naval Attaché in Tel Aviv, that Israel would defend its coast with every means at its disposal, including sinking unidentified ships. Also, he asked the U.S. to keep its ships away from Israel's shore or at least inform Israel of their exact position.[11][12] The United States did not provide Israel any information about Liberty's mission or location.

American sources said that no inquiry about ships in the area was made until after the Liberty attack ended. In a message sent from U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk to U.S. Ambassador Walworth Barbour, in Tel Aviv, Israel, Rusk asked for "urgent confirmation" of Israel's claim. Barbour responded: "No request for info on U.S. ships operating off Sinai was made until after Liberty incident." Further, Barbour stated: "Had Israelis made such an inquiry it would have been forwarded immediately to the chief of naval operations and other high naval commands and repeated to dept [Department of State]."[13]

With the outbreak of war, Captain William L. McGonagle of the Liberty immediately asked Vice Admiral William I. Martin at the U.S. 6th Fleet headquarters to send a destroyer to accompany the Liberty and serve as its armed escort and as an auxiliary communications center. The following day, June 6, Admiral Martin replied: “Liberty is a clearly marked United States ship in international waters, not a participant in the conflict and not a reasonable subject for attack by any nation. Request denied.”[14] He promised, however, that in the unlikely event of an inadvertent attack, jet fighters from the Sixth Fleet would be overhead in ten minutes.

Meanwhile, at the United Nations, and in response to Arab complaints that the U.S. and British were supporting Israel in the conflict, United States Ambassador Arthur Goldberg announced that the U.S. forces were hundreds of miles from the conflict.[10] At the time the statement was made, this was the case, since the Liberty was just entering the Mediterranean Sea[15] but would ultimately steam to within a few miles of the Sinai Peninsula.

On the night of June 7 Washington time, early morning on June 8, 01:10Z or 3:10 AM local time, the Pentagon issued an order to 6th Fleet headquarters to tell the Liberty to come no closer than 100 nmi (120 mi; 190 km) to Israel, Syria, or the Sinai coast (Oren, p. 263).[16] (pages 5 and Exhibit N, page 58).

According to the Naval Court of Inquiry[17] (p. 23 ff, p. 111 ff) and National Security Agency official history,[18] the order to withdraw was not sent on the radio frequency that USS Liberty monitored for her orders until 15:25 Zulu, several hours after the attack, due to a long series of administrative and message routing problems. The Navy said a large volume of unrelated high-precedence traffic, including intelligence intercepts related to the conflict, were being handled at the time and it also faulted a shortage of qualified radio men as a contributing factor to the failure to send the withdrawal message to Liberty in time.[17] (p. 111 ff)

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Mon 06/18/12 12:27 PM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Mon 06/18/12 12:35 PM
This is the official goverment website for the National Security Agency/Central Security Service...It contains all the official documents no longer considered classified pertaining to the attact on the Liberty...Everything from communication transcripts during the attact to the investigations ....There are hundreds of links, but you can use the search bar for specific questions....fascinating...






http://www.nsa.gov/applications/search/index.cfm?q=USS%20Liberty

When you open the link, it shows "no search results"...Just click on the search bar and it will open:smile:

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 06/19/12 06:41 PM
well I tend to agree with every survivor of the USS Liberty that Israel knew exactly what they were trying to sink, after all the US Flag was shot down three times.

Those brave men have nothing at all to gain by comeing forward all they are seaking is justice and truth.

It was a cover up plain and simple and to defend the "Official whitewash version" shames the dead and the liveing

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Tue 06/19/12 09:35 PM

well I tend to agree with every survivor of the USS Liberty that Israel knew exactly what they were trying to sink, after all the US Flag was shot down three times.

Those brave men have nothing at all to gain by comeing forward all they are seaking is justice and truth.

It was a cover up plain and simple and to defend the "Official whitewash version" shames the dead and the liveing



Israel couldn't help it. They are incompetent and stupid.

At least that's what they claim.


s1owhand's photo
Tue 06/19/12 11:05 PM
Only one of the most researched and documented friendly fire
incidents in history. But don't let sensationalized personal
accounts of the accident or virulent antisemitic propaganda
get in your way!

And for goodness sakes do NOT read the Wikipedia article on it
which cites evidence from both sides and explains why all
official investigations into the matter have found it to be a
tragic mistake.

No!

All the evidence of confusion and mistaken identity in wartime
is lies lies lies lies! Only the poor people who were attacked
could possibly know why they were attacked. They know. Why?
Because they were Israel's best friends that's why. Because Israel
always attacks their friends. That's how they roll.

laugh

Maybe not. But don't read the Wiki article. It is FULL of LIES.
I know this because any evidence which hints that Israel is not
guilty of everything is obviously lies.

laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident


Conrad_73's photo
Wed 06/20/12 12:54 AM

• Appendix: The disturbing statements of a leading Liberty crewman

James Ennes, perhaps the leading conspiracy proponent among the former Liberty crewmen, who was interviewed extensively by the History Channel, has made extreme anti-Jewish and anti-Israel statements in e-mail discussions on Prodigy. For example, in a message dated June 8, 1992 referring to Jews, Mr. Ennes stated:

... Consider their dilemma: For generations they wanted their own country as a haven from racists. Finally they got it. Gradually they learned that their “leaders” obtained the new country by murdering and frightening away the original owners. Gradually they learned that the new leaders were actually the worst kind of self-centered, amoralistic murderers - worse than the people they sought to flee from.

This was too much of a moral dilemma for many of them. Some drew silent. Others turned against the people who betrayed them and now led their new country. Others pretended that all was well and that the new country was surrounded by extremists and that this condition justified every kind of brutal excess.[sic] And over the years they have instilled this narrow view in their children who now accept it as religious dogma. It is a very sad situation indeed.

Of course, the people that Jews fled from were first and foremost the Nazis, so Mr. Ennes is saying that Israel’s leaders are “amoralistic murderers” who are “worse” than the Nazis.

In another message dated July 22, 1992, Mr. Ennes stated:

... the fact is Israel would have no enemies if they did not constantly raid their neighbors, steal their land, take their water and kill their children.

Mr. Ennes’s statements are nonsense copied directly from his apparent good friends in the pro-Arab propaganda industry. Clearly, if before the attack on the Liberty Mr. Ennes was not an extreme anti-Israel partisan, he has become one since. His allegations concerning the Liberty must be viewed in that unpleasant context.

Why did the History Channel keep from viewers Mr. Ennes’s fanatical anti-Jewish and anti-Israel agenda?

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 06/20/12 03:46 AM


well I tend to agree with every survivor of the USS Liberty that Israel knew exactly what they were trying to sink, after all the US Flag was shot down three times.

Those brave men have nothing at all to gain by comeing forward all they are seaking is justice and truth.

It was a cover up plain and simple and to defend the "Official whitewash version" shames the dead and the liveing



Israel couldn't help it. They are incompetent and stupid.

At least that's what they claim.




Amazing what Governments get away with by being incompetent and stupid.

Look at 911..the same people that defend and believe The USS Liberty Story defend and believe the incompetence of All the American Government Agencies with regard to 911.

The incompetent and stupid gene is spreading to the masses.


Conrad_73's photo
Wed 06/20/12 04:28 AM


• Appendix: The disturbing statements of a leading Liberty crewman

James Ennes, perhaps the leading conspiracy proponent among the former Liberty crewmen, who was interviewed extensively by the History Channel, has made extreme anti-Jewish and anti-Israel statements in e-mail discussions on Prodigy. For example, in a message dated June 8, 1992 referring to Jews, Mr. Ennes stated:

... Consider their dilemma: For generations they wanted their own country as a haven from racists. Finally they got it. Gradually they learned that their “leaders” obtained the new country by murdering and frightening away the original owners. Gradually they learned that the new leaders were actually the worst kind of self-centered, amoralistic murderers - worse than the people they sought to flee from.

This was too much of a moral dilemma for many of them. Some drew silent. Others turned against the people who betrayed them and now led their new country. Others pretended that all was well and that the new country was surrounded by extremists and that this condition justified every kind of brutal excess.[sic] And over the years they have instilled this narrow view in their children who now accept it as religious dogma. It is a very sad situation indeed.

Of course, the people that Jews fled from were first and foremost the Nazis, so Mr. Ennes is saying that Israel’s leaders are “amoralistic murderers” who are “worse” than the Nazis.

In another message dated July 22, 1992, Mr. Ennes stated:

... the fact is Israel would have no enemies if they did not constantly raid their neighbors, steal their land, take their water and kill their children.

Mr. Ennes’s statements are nonsense copied directly from his apparent good friends in the pro-Arab propaganda industry. Clearly, if before the attack on the Liberty Mr. Ennes was not an extreme anti-Israel partisan, he has become one since. His allegations concerning the Liberty must be viewed in that unpleasant context.

Why did the History Channel keep from viewers Mr. Ennes’s fanatical anti-Jewish and anti-Israel agenda?


Optomistic69's photo
Wed 06/20/12 04:57 AM



There was no cover-up. The Israelis accepted responsibility for their mistake quickly
and apologized immediately and profusely.

The US accepted their apology.






The US accepted their apology.

That is The Cover-Uplaugh laugh laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 06/20/12 05:23 AM



• Appendix: The disturbing statements of a leading Liberty crewman

James Ennes, perhaps the leading conspiracy proponent among the former Liberty crewmen, who was interviewed extensively by the History Channel, has made extreme anti-Jewish and anti-Israel statements in e-mail discussions on Prodigy. For example, in a message dated June 8, 1992 referring to Jews, Mr. Ennes stated:

... Consider their dilemma: For generations they wanted their own country as a haven from racists. Finally they got it. Gradually they learned that their “leaders” obtained the new country by murdering and frightening away the original owners. Gradually they learned that the new leaders were actually the worst kind of self-centered, amoralistic murderers - worse than the people they sought to flee from.

This was too much of a moral dilemma for many of them. Some drew silent. Others turned against the people who betrayed them and now led their new country. Others pretended that all was well and that the new country was surrounded by extremists and that this condition justified every kind of brutal excess.[sic] And over the years they have instilled this narrow view in their children who now accept it as religious dogma. It is a very sad situation indeed.

Of course, the people that Jews fled from were first and foremost the Nazis, so Mr. Ennes is saying that Israel’s leaders are “amoralistic murderers” who are “worse” than the Nazis.

In another message dated July 22, 1992, Mr. Ennes stated:

... the fact is Israel would have no enemies if they did not constantly raid their neighbors, steal their land, take their water and kill their children.

Mr. Ennes’s statements are nonsense copied directly from his apparent good friends in the pro-Arab propaganda industry. Clearly, if before the attack on the Liberty Mr. Ennes was not an extreme anti-Israel partisan, he has become one since. His allegations concerning the Liberty must be viewed in that unpleasant context.

Why did the History Channel keep from viewers Mr. Ennes’s fanatical anti-Jewish and anti-Israel agenda?



Optomistic69's photo
Wed 06/20/12 05:28 AM
Someone is getting real tiredlaugh laugh laugh


Bestinshow's photo
Wed 06/20/12 02:11 PM

Someone is getting real tiredlaugh laugh laugh


I do not see any anti semtic statements at all, he is describeing the reality of the situation. I think the history channel didnt show it is because it is a bit to real for the propaganda model that has been manufactured.

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 06/20/12 02:51 PM


Someone is getting real tiredlaugh laugh laugh


I do not see any anti semtic statements at all, he is describeing the reality of the situation. I think the history channel didnt show it is because it is a bit to real for the propaganda model that has been manufactured.
the Hystery-Channel is biased and screwed up!

Appendix: The disturbing statements of a leading Liberty crewman

James Ennes, perhaps the leading conspiracy proponent among the former Liberty crewmen, who was interviewed extensively by the History Channel, has made extreme anti-Jewish and anti-Israel statements in e-mail discussions on Prodigy. For example, in a message dated June 8, 1992 referring to Jews, Mr. Ennes stated:

... Consider their dilemma: For generations they wanted their own country as a haven from racists. Finally they got it. Gradually they learned that their “leaders” obtained the new country by murdering and frightening away the original owners. Gradually they learned that the new leaders were actually the worst kind of self-centered, amoralistic murderers - worse than the people they sought to flee from.

This was too much of a moral dilemma for many of them. Some drew silent. Others turned against the people who betrayed them and now led their new country. Others pretended that all was well and that the new country was surrounded by extremists and that this condition justified every kind of brutal excess.[sic] And over the years they have instilled this narrow view in their children who now accept it as religious dogma. It is a very sad situation indeed.

Of course, the people that Jews fled from were first and foremost the Nazis, so Mr. Ennes is saying that Israel’s leaders are “amoralistic murderers” who are “worse” than the Nazis.

In another message dated July 22, 1992, Mr. Ennes stated:

... the fact is Israel would have no enemies if they did not constantly raid their neighbors, steal their land, take their water and kill their children.

Mr. Ennes’s statements are nonsense copied directly from his apparent good friends in the pro-Arab propaganda industry. Clearly, if before the attack on the Liberty Mr. Ennes was not an extreme anti-Israel partisan, he has become one since. His allegations concerning the Liberty must be viewed in that unpleasant context.

Why did the History Channel keep from viewers Mr. Ennes’s fanatical anti-Jewish and anti-Israel agenda?


Explain that to me!
It is Fact,not the propaganda of the Hysteria-Channel!
Bet you are unable to explain!
Or explain the other Discrepancies and outright Lies by some of the Crewmembers!

You have a Lot of 'splaining to do,and that Propaganda-Innuendo you Guys like to bring up so much isn't working any longer!
You been caught at too many inaccuracies!
Stop glossing over them,and come clean!
Your whole story of The LIBERTY-Incident rests on fabrications!

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 06/20/12 02:52 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 06/20/12 02:54 PM


Someone is getting real tiredlaugh laugh laugh


I do not see any anti semtic statements at all, he is describeing the reality of the situation. I think the history channel didnt show it is because it is a bit to real for the propaganda model that has been manufactured.
The Heck he described the Situation!
He fabricated a Story that doesn't jibe with the Facts!

And all the apologetics will not change that fact!
HE LIED!
LIED under Oath!

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