If a man is against abortions, he should be responsible enough to discuss this issue with women before having sex. If she is not against abortions, perhaps he should move onto someone who shares his views. Otherwise, you're going to have big problems down the road if she does get pregnant.

I never said a guy should go without sex.

Also, I would hope these guys always use condoms.

On the issue of abortion I think men can have an opinion, but it is ultimately the woman's decision, not the dad, not the government or some goddamn church.

So your position is that women should be able to murder their unborn children, but only for reasons of which you approve? Am I understanding that correctly?

must have been some insurgents in your house using your computer to post on mingle
according to you, if a guy is out trying to meet a woman for sex, he should discuss abortion before he has sex with her, because if she disagrees on his stance, he should go without

Abortion would first have to be made legal. Correction: The Constitution would have to be Amended to give the Federal Government the authority to write laws on abortion, then they would have to make it legal, then they could make it illegal again.

As the current US Code stands, abortion is left up to the states to decide, except for a 7-2 ruling in Roe v Wade, which universally legalized abortion.

I'm saying, they already have that right to murder the kid.
They will have to answer for their decisions.

I am also saying, men should have a legal right to contest their kid being murdered.

I view all this as nothing more than pure old fashioned communism. Women can have a choice so long as men first approve of it.

I said don't have sex with her if she does not agree. Not that you should go without sex all together. Please do pay attention.

ok twisty, you are completely correct. you "got it"

As long as I have two hands and/or a blow-up doll, I'll never be without sex.

A woman I got with got pregnant, I'm guessing by me.
I tried to talk her out of an abortion. She went through with it anyways.

Had I had rights to the unborn kid, I could have sued her for the child.

What's this twisty stuff? I went by what you said. You chose what part of my response to go with, rather than reading everything. If anything, you were twisting my words. Either way, I don't care who you have sex with. I would think those who are completely against abortion would be discussing it before sex. Though, if sex is that important to have right then, I would think you'd make sure to use condoms so it isn't an issue.

I like my sex on impulse.
I don't see it as a contract.

Ultimately it comes down to when life begins. The notion that a fetus is not human because it can't assert it's rights is ridiculous. A 1 year old cant assert it's right either.

Women bear the responsibility of bearing children. Or you can see it as an amazing gift solely bestowed upon women. That's how I view it. And with this gift comes the responsibility. Maybe if the world viewed women and childbearing with the awe and respect they deserved, we could educate our daughters to prevent pregnancy in the first place without the stigma attached to obtaining birth control.

So do I.
Neither do I.

However, if someone was opposed to abortions, I would think it would be important enough to talk about before having sex. If not, then it wasn't that important to the person to begin with.

Well said. And without making it seem like sex is some dirty thing that should never be discussed/learned about.

EXACTLY! Women who have sex are sluts. And if you obtain birth control prior to having sex then you were planning on being a slut. Which is even worse. That's the message we are sending to our children.

Sex is a wonderful thing when shared by two...as is childbirth (I watched my 3 children born, did lemase (?) and was involved.)

A person not willing to share the responsibility both prenatal and after.....some would ask "what were you thinking?!", meaning is it worth giving away principles, preparation, at the risk of a life?

Abortion is an option, not a cure!

A fetus is a human being. But it's not a physically independent human being, and it is not a "person" in law. It really scares me what could happen if fetuses were granted legal rights. Once you pull down that natural barrier of birth, there's no logical end to the craziness that can ensue.