Now that Korea has gone into the pet cloning business, how long before people begin paying them under the table to clone humans?

Or are they already doing it?

Do you think human cloning is happening under the protection of "classified" technology?

I do.

HumanCloning.org

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It has a long way to come to be perfected for pets let alone humans. I'm sure they've been playing with it though. I doubt we will be seeing clones walking around anytime soon though.

I don't. What would be the point?

It looks pretty perfected for dogs. There are several very successful cases.

I watched a show on television last night, "I cloned my pet."

If they can clone a dog, I'm sure they can clone a human.

But they would have to pay women to host the clones and give birth, unless they are selling to a woman who wants to have the clone herself.

I'm sure Korea can find plenty of poor women to be surrogates.

Harvesting organs that won't be rejected, from a body that has no legal rights.

or, more to the point, money... why else?

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1. Because they can.
2. Genetic engineering people for specific tasks, including the ultimate soldier.
3. Organ donors for the elite who want to live forever.

The American Kennel Club decided that this couple's cloned dog "was not a dog" because it was a clone.

Why would people think that?

If they would think that about dogs, then they would think the same about a cloned human. ...That it is not human and has no rights.

That is so totally STUPID!

A dog will eat it's own sh**. Do you think dog sh** is suitable for humans as well? It's good enough for dogs.

Also, what issues do those clones have compared to natural dogs?

I know in selective breeding some birth defects are actually favorable, let alone what issues can occur in cloning.

Dogs will "taste" poop in the way that they sniff things. It is how they learn about the animal that left it. I personally have never seen a dog eat his own poop. They don't even like to be in the same room with it.

I have seen dogs eat cat poop. I think because they like cat food, and cat poop probably tastes a lot like their food.

As far as "issues" the cloned dogs have, I guess time will tell. The first cloned dog is being set up to breed with a female and have offspring. If that happens, then I would say that ... he's definitely a real dog.

Well, yeah clones are real animals, but I'm sure they have far too many issues, even today for cloning to be deemed suitable for humans. I'm sure they have been playing with it though.

Cloning is far too expensive and time-consuming to use to create an army. It's much easier just to indoctrinate people who are already living. Plus, clones are basically identical twins, so they have their own brains and personalities. They are not zombies. This also answers the argument about organ donors. It's just more efficient to get already-living people to sell their organs, or to grow individual organs through things like stem cell procedures.

Read Ursula LeGuin's Nine Lives, or practically anything by Nancy Kress.

I guess from a legal stand point it does, but right now black market trafficking in human organs doesn't care about the law . . .

As tech gets better the cost will go down, who knows what the future will look like in that regard.

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For a body to function in an army, it needs a brain, so yes, this is an argument against building a clone army.




Maybe under current law, but (if we don't already...) we may soon have the technology to create clones that are designed to grow and develop with only the tiniest bit of essential brain tissue needed to keep the body alive - unthinking clones with no personalities. In some countries, the law might be adjusted to allow the creation of brainless bodies that are treated as property.



Efficient? We are comparing two systems. If both systems are equally effective at meeting a need, you can meaningfully compare efficiencies. But if one system is failing to meet a need that another system would meet - who gives a **** about efficiency? Staying alive is more important to all of those people who would not be able to get organs under the current system.

Its like arguing against a school lunch program because its more cost effective for some parents to make their own lunches for their kids. Sure, thats more efficient for those parents, but its useless for all the kids that would otherwise go hungry.

AFAIK, we cannot yet grow all organs using stem cells.

Animals are also legally considered property. I don't think humans are considered property anymore.

Wrong. Dogs, yes, cats, no. Wild animals, definitely no.

You cannot legally own a cat believe it or not.



Probably more than cats.

Football players are traded.

By animals I meant pets.