Topic: Ron Paul - Suddenly Seems Electable.....
msharmony's photo
Tue 05/22/12 04:55 PM

Actually the state allows home rule cities to have their own city ordinances, rules and laws.






and the fed 'allows' states to have their own as well

so Im still failing to see the appeal of passing that power from one source to another,, so long as we know someone is still going to use it to dictate to citizens certain rules and boundaries?

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Tue 05/22/12 05:44 PM


Actually the state allows home rule cities to have their own city ordinances, rules and laws.






and the fed 'allows' states to have their own as well

so Im still failing to see the appeal of passing that power from one source to another,, so long as we know someone is still going to use it to dictate to citizens certain rules and boundaries?


The thing is to keep it balanced. Don't let the Feds run rampant over the state laws.

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Tue 05/22/12 06:06 PM

But, does Paul still hate Jews?what

well, does he?what

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 05/22/12 06:08 PM

Love Love Love seeing this!
drinker hear, hear! :banana:

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Tue 05/22/12 06:24 PM

But, does Paul still hate Jews?what

just askin cause Hitler did. you know..:smile:

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Tue 05/22/12 06:34 PM


But, does Paul still hate Jews?what

well, does he?what


You are so predictable! rofl rofl

Do you still beat your wife?

Well do you?

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Tue 05/22/12 07:22 PM
People act like Ron Paul will dismantle the federal government.

He can't.

He can, however, bring our troops home.

Electing Ron Paul will not suddenly convert us to a loose collection of state governments. For that we'd have to elect a majority of libertarians to congress, and it could easily take decades to happen.

Putting Ron Paul in office would just be a small step to slow the horrible increases in power of the federal government.

Ron Paul 2012

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Tue 05/22/12 07:23 PM

People act like Ron Paul will dismantle the federal government.

He can't.

He can, however, bring our troops home.

Electing Ron Paul will not suddenly convert us to a loose collection of state governments. For that we'd have to elect a majority of libertarians to congress, and it could easily take decades to happen.

Putting Ron Paul in office would just be a small step to slow the horrible increases in power of the federal government.

Ron Paul 2012


True. No single person can change this mess.

Look what happened to Abe Lincoln.

Citizen_Joe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 09:28 PM

He can, however, bring our troops home.



Bringing troops home will dramatically change the phony war on drugs. In this community and in Bellefontaine, Heroin and Crack are rampant. Remind me which country supplies cocaine and Opium again? And where is the military relative to these countries?

msharmony's photo
Tue 05/22/12 11:31 PM

People act like Ron Paul will dismantle the federal government.

He can't.

He can, however, bring our troops home.

Electing Ron Paul will not suddenly convert us to a loose collection of state governments. For that we'd have to elect a majority of libertarians to congress, and it could easily take decades to happen.

Putting Ron Paul in office would just be a small step to slow the horrible increases in power of the federal government.

Ron Paul 2012


what else will he be STANDING UP For in terms of american progress though?


I understand its the congressional majority that affects changes, but other than just DISAGREE With them and STOPPING them, what will he be encouraging or SUPPORING Them in? anything? or is he just so anti feds that he will in essence stop any PROGRESS from happening?

Citizen_Joe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 11:47 PM


But, does Paul still hate Jews?what

just askin cause Hitler did. you know..:smile:


I don't recall a single incident that Ron Paul has ever made a single hateful comment of jews. I will however suggest that a further look into history is in order. In fact, look at what the NAZI's found in Poland when they took it back. If that doesn't make you at least question the validity of history as taught in the schools I really can't say what will. I've decided to do exactly what Einstein suggested with regard to education. Forget everything I learned in school, and look at all sides of every story and then do that other thing... THINK.

"Education is that which remains when one has forgotten everything he learned in school" -Albert Einstein

Citizen_Joe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 11:54 PM


what else will he be STANDING UP For in terms of american progress though?


I understand its the congressional majority that affects changes, but other than just DISAGREE With them and STOPPING them, what will he be encouraging or SUPPORING Them in? anything? or is he just so anti feds that he will in essence stop any PROGRESS from happening?


Sound money for starters. Do you know what happens when inflation is always just a little higher than minimum wage increases for 4 decades? A family of 2 struggles to keep the lights on and food on the table. In the 70s, a single parent could work 1 job and live well. There hasn't been one single period of recovery in 4 decades. Any appearance of recovery has been at the expense of the poor and what's left of the middle class and believe me, it's no accident.

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/23/12 12:04 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/23/12 12:05 AM



what else will he be STANDING UP For in terms of american progress though?


I understand its the congressional majority that affects changes, but other than just DISAGREE With them and STOPPING them, what will he be encouraging or SUPPORING Them in? anything? or is he just so anti feds that he will in essence stop any PROGRESS from happening?


Sound money for starters. Do you know what happens when inflation is always just a little higher than minimum wage increases for 4 decades? A family of 2 struggles to keep the lights on and food on the table. In the 70s, a single parent could work 1 job and live well. There hasn't been one single period of recovery in 4 decades. Any appearance of recovery has been at the expense of the poor and what's left of the middle class and believe me, it's no accident.


by what means will 'sound money' come about

by cutting education and certification of our teachers ?
by eliminating minimum wage?
by , in essence, allowing the locally rich and powerful to use whatever and whomever they wish to remain locally rich and powerful?

,,do you think policies like that will improve the struggle of the poor or middle class?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/23/12 04:51 AM




what else will he be STANDING UP For in terms of american progress though?


I understand its the congressional majority that affects changes, but other than just DISAGREE With them and STOPPING them, what will he be encouraging or SUPPORING Them in? anything? or is he just so anti feds that he will in essence stop any PROGRESS from happening?


Sound money for starters. Do you know what happens when inflation is always just a little higher than minimum wage increases for 4 decades? A family of 2 struggles to keep the lights on and food on the table. In the 70s, a single parent could work 1 job and live well. There hasn't been one single period of recovery in 4 decades. Any appearance of recovery has been at the expense of the poor and what's left of the middle class and believe me, it's no accident.


by what means will 'sound money' come about

by cutting education and certification of our teachers ?
by eliminating minimum wage?
by , in essence, allowing the locally rich and powerful to use whatever and whomever they wish to remain locally rich and powerful?

,,do you think policies like that will improve the struggle of the poor or middle class?


There have been "rich" people since the beginning of time. Before, they were looked up to and respected, even envied, but the present system has created the disparity between the classes. Taking pride and honesty out of the equation hasn't done such a great job as you suggest!

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/23/12 07:43 AM





what else will he be STANDING UP For in terms of american progress though?


I understand its the congressional majority that affects changes, but other than just DISAGREE With them and STOPPING them, what will he be encouraging or SUPPORING Them in? anything? or is he just so anti feds that he will in essence stop any PROGRESS from happening?


Sound money for starters. Do you know what happens when inflation is always just a little higher than minimum wage increases for 4 decades? A family of 2 struggles to keep the lights on and food on the table. In the 70s, a single parent could work 1 job and live well. There hasn't been one single period of recovery in 4 decades. Any appearance of recovery has been at the expense of the poor and what's left of the middle class and believe me, it's no accident.


by what means will 'sound money' come about

by cutting education and certification of our teachers ?
by eliminating minimum wage?
by , in essence, allowing the locally rich and powerful to use whatever and whomever they wish to remain locally rich and powerful?

,,do you think policies like that will improve the struggle of the poor or middle class?


There have been "rich" people since the beginning of time. Before, they were looked up to and respected, even envied, but the present system has created the disparity between the classes. Taking pride and honesty out of the equation hasn't done such a great job as you suggest!



not sure the intended relevance of this statement......

its been a government for a while that rewards the rich off the backs of the middle and poor class, but nothing like what I feel will happen once the rich actually are GIVEN the power more absolutely by removing any checks or balances from regional governments (States)

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/23/12 08:48 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 05/23/12 08:52 AM
You talk about removing checks and balances..... like the regimes of the last 4 decades? How's that working for ya?

More regulation, more laws, more taxes, less production, less innovation, more gov't! The math isn't that difficult!

The checks and balances are against the people, NOT THE CRONY CAPITALIST WALL STREET INSTITUTIONS!

They wield their money as power, influence elections, gov't, pass regulations to stiffle competition, eliminate small business (the backbone of America), create the poor, create the welfare state that then requires gov't to support it because savings are lost to inflation, banker greed, corruption in the halls of justice!

A new set of checks and balances is ABSOLUTELY needed, and Ron Paul is the ONLY one offering a diferent path, or ANY kind of a solution!

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Wed 05/23/12 11:32 AM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 05/23/12 11:44 AM



But, does Paul still hate Jews?what

well, does he?what


You are so predictable! rofl rofl

Do you still beat your wife?

Well do you?


Well, if I did, I sure wouldn't talk about it like Paul did.

smile2

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Wed 05/23/12 11:42 AM
Ron Paul: U.S. Shouldn't Have Fought Hitler Just to Save Jews From Holocaust

Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.
Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.
Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.


Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/23/12 12:04 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 05/23/12 12:47 PM

Ron Paul: U.S. Shouldn't Have Fought Hitler Just to Save Jews From Holocaust

Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.
Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.
Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.


Anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is a fact, and a critical one at that. Dondero says that Ron Paul is not an antisemite, but then he says that Paul thinks that the Jewish State should not exist at all.

Think about that for a minute. Paul "sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs." How does Ron Paul think that should be accomplished? The "Palestinian" jihadists clearly want to kill all the Jews in Israel; they say so again and again on Palestinian Authority TV. They teach this poison to their children. Islamic Jew-hatred is in the quran. If Israel were turned over to the Palestinians, the jihadi savages would indulge in an orgy of Jewish blood on a scale the world hasn't seen since the Holocaust.

Is Paul ok with that? Is that the way he envisions bringing "peace" to the Middle East if he becomes president (G-d forbid)?

And look at how he berated and yelled at the Houston Jewish Young Republicans. He obviously feels very, very strongly about this: his hatred for Israel is very important to him.

Paul's position on Hitler only confirms his antisemitism. The U.S. shouldn't have fought Hitler to save the Jews? Paul here again seems to be just fine with genocide of the Jews. And notice here again: he repeated this to Dondero "countless times."

Paul also sides with Iran in its annihilationist aspirations for a nuclear weapon.

This man must never, ever become president of the United States.

Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism by Eric Dondero, Right Wing News

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

...Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.

He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.

Again, American Jews, Ron Paul has no problem with. In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign. (One synagogue in Victoria, and tiny one in Wharton headed by a well-known Jewish lawyer).

On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.

There was another incident when Ron finally agreed to a meeting with Houston Jewish Young Republicans at the Freeport office. He berated them, and even shouted at one point, over their un-flinching support for Israel. So, much so, that the 6 of them walked out of the office. I was left chasing them down the hallway apologizing for my boss....

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.



This is BS on many levels!

The fact that someone doesn't believe in a phylosphy, or a certain regime or it's actions, does NOT put them against its people! They use the fact that Hitler was persecuting Jews against Ron Paul, when THAT is NOT what he was railing against, but rather HOW they got us involved!

Much of this has been shown to be "False Flag" operations, like the Lusitania (a passenger ship full of Americans, that was loaded with ammo, then leaked to the Germans), to pull the US into that theater of operations when we already had a war going on.

http://www.thetruthnews.info/Lusitania_Tragedy.html

There was no NATO, no trade agreements, NOTHING at that time, just a desire by the Rothschild Banking Cartel (AND Granddad Bush and his New York Bank that funded Hitler) to get a foothold on the US economy and the profits of funding the war on all sides!

They sold us Vietnam the same way with "The Gulf Of Tonkin" incident!

http://www.answers.com/topic/gulf-of-tonkin

Our Constitution says "NATIONAL DEFENSE" NOT PRE-EMPTED WAR! It had to be sold to the American people back then to get a vote thru congress!

NOT ANY MORE, thanks to Bush and Obozo, supported by a misinformed public and the media presstitutes!!

I don't need to go into details about Iraq, they just figured the American people were so dumb after swallowing the rest of it, they didn't even need to make excuses or cover it up!

NOW FOR YOU VIEWING PLEASURE, AND BANKER PROFITS, WE BRING YOU IRAN, LIBYA, NORTH KOREA!

It's one of those ideas that can be sold as "well intentioned"....until the truth is told! Like the housing bubble!

A little research goes a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG WAY!

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But, does Paul still hate Jews?what

well, does he?what


You are so predictable! rofl rofl

Do you still beat your wife?

Well do you?

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