Topic: Dharun Ruvi gets 30 days
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Mon 05/21/12 01:17 PM
New Brunswick (New Jersey), May 21 — Indian-American student Dharun Ravi will serve a 30-day jail term beginning May 31.

Sentencing the former Rutgers New Jersey State University student on bias intimidation and invasion of privacy charges, Middlesex County Judge Glenn Berman Monday said he will recommend that Ravi not be deported.

'Down the road you can expunge this judgement,' Berman said. 'You cannot expunge the conduct or the pain you caused,' he said.

Ravi's roommate at Rutgers New Jersey State University, Tyler Clementi, committed suicide in September 2010, several days after Ravi set up his webcam and watched live-streamed images of Clementi kissing another man.

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Mon 05/21/12 02:16 PM
i guess spying on people is illegal... otherwise, he should not have spent any time in jail...

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Mon 05/21/12 03:59 PM
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Mon 05/21/12 04:01 PM

i guess spying on people is illegal... otherwise, he should not have spent any time in jail...


You can't spy in your own home. If you live there, you have a right to know what is going on.

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Mon 05/21/12 04:55 PM


i guess spying on people is illegal... otherwise, he should not have spent any time in jail...


You can't spy in your own home. If you live there, you have a right to know what is going on.


i guess "invasion of privacy" is a better term... but i don't see how the gay killing himself is any way his fault...


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Mon 05/21/12 04:59 PM


i guess spying on people is illegal... otherwise, he should not have spent any time in jail...


You can't spy in your own home. If you live there, you have a right to know what is going on.


They were roommates in a college dorm. A person has a right to expect a reasonable amount of privacy in what was also his home.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:15 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 05/21/12 05:20 PM



i guess spying on people is illegal... otherwise, he should not have spent any time in jail...


You can't spy in your own home. If you live there, you have a right to know what is going on.


They were roommates in a college dorm. A person has a right to expect a reasonable amount of privacy in what was also his home.


His roommate had a strange older (30 yo) visitor and asked Ravi to leave the room until 12:00 midnight. Ravi didn't know what was going on or why he couldn't be in his room. Ravi turned on the camera for a moment, saw them kissing, turned it off and never turned it on again. Most of the crap you've read about this case in the media is BS.

EDIT: You do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in regards to roommates. If they didn't share the room, then an argument could be made. But they slept in the same room, so he had no reason to expect privacy from Ravi.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:25 PM




i guess spying on people is illegal... otherwise, he should not have spent any time in jail...


You can't spy in your own home. If you live there, you have a right to know what is going on.


They were roommates in a college dorm. A person has a right to expect a reasonable amount of privacy in what was also his home.


His roommate had a strange older (30 yo) visitor and asked Ravi to leave the room until 12:00 midnight. Ravi didn't know what was going on or why he couldn't be in his room. Ravi turned on the camera for a moment, saw them kissing, turned it off and never turned it on again. Most of the crap you've read about this case in the media is BS.

EDIT: You do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in regards to roommates. If they didn't share the room, then an argument could be made. But they slept in the same room, so he had no reason to expect privacy from Ravi.


Would that no reason to expect privacy extend to Ravi going through
his wallet or drawers?

Also what would Ravi have done if his roomy had brought a nice looking coed into the room and asked him to "disappear for a few hours"?

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Mon 05/21/12 05:27 PM

Would that no reason to expect privacy extend to Ravi going through
his wallet or drawers?


No. Maybe you don't get the idea of privacy. IF YOU LIVE SOMEWHERE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE OR VIEW IT OR AUDIO RECORD IT. That doesn't mean you have the right to go into someone elses stuff. Does Ravi sleep in his roommates drawers or wallet? No? Then obviously, he can't go through those.


Also what would Ravi have done if his roomy had brought a nice looking coed into the room and asked him to "disappear for a few hours"?


I'm not a mind reader.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:39 PM
The roommate asked for a private "moment" with his friend.

Ravi, in recording that "moment" basically was doing the same thing as if he had gone through his drawers.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:41 PM

The roommate asked for a private "moment" with his friend.

Ravi, in recording that "moment" basically was doing the same thing as if he had gone through his drawers.


He didn't record or broadcast that "moment". He turned on his camera, saw the two of them kissing and turned it off.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:49 PM
He didn't have to "record" it. Merely turning on the camera was the invasion of reasonably expected privacy.

A peeping Tom looking into windows does not have to take photos to be invading a persons privacy even if the drapes are open.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:50 PM

He didn't have to "record" it. Merely turning on the camera was the invasion of reasonably expected privacy.

A peeping Tom looking into windows does not have to take photos to be invading a persons privacy even if the drapes are open.


A peeping Tom? He looked into his own room. He could have just as easily and legally walked into his room.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:52 PM
But he didn't legally walk into the room.

He secretly turned on a camera and left.

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Mon 05/21/12 05:56 PM

But he didn't legally walk into the room.

He secretly turned on a camera and left.


The problem is that you don't know the facts and when I post them, you ignore them. So I'm going to ignore you and wait for someone who is reasonable, so that I can have a discussion rather than just repeating myself.