Topic: Advice
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Sat 05/19/12 05:01 PM
Can someone help me with this, why does it seems that you can always give very good advice to people about their problems and see it worked out like you said it would, but you cannot do the same for yourself.

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Sat 05/19/12 05:03 PM
good advice is easy to give if you can tell people what they need to hear

but we usually get stuck telling ourself what we WANT to hear instead,,,

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Sat 05/19/12 05:11 PM
When you give advice, you can be dispassionate.
You are not hindered by personal feelings.
You may not have loved or even touched the persons involved.
You speak for the odds.

But giving the advice to yourself?
Much more lenient.

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Sat 05/19/12 06:24 PM
Does your question mean to say that our advice is stupid and you can't use it? It perhaps backfired on you? And yet we sound so knowledgable, practical, wise and matter-of-fact about it?

Well, if you meant it, I see you are on the righ path.

The only thing you missed is that our own advice to ourselves, as well as to anyone else, equally don't work.

Advice is in social situations; and in social situations the future outcome is unpredictable by any one or more humans.

There are odds, there are trends, but the circumstances that can unfold in any one individual's case is still a huge uncertainty.

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My stance on this is stronger than Soufie's. She says that there are odds, and they are seen easier by an outsider. I say the odds thing is right, the seeing thing is right, but the outsiders will always see a skewed story, and that distortion of situation regaled in which advice is sought, takes away any gain of old wisdom built on odds.

I agree with Wittgenstein (not a user on this site) very strongly on this. Human behaviour can't be predicted to an actual reaction in any one instnance. Not even on how long it takes for a person to switch legs to cross on the top in a long session of sitting; not even on how many minutes it takes on a job interview the interviewer to decide whether to hire the applicant or not.

The odds are true, but their application on individual cases has predicion value that has a success rate of complete randomness or very near to randomness.

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Sat 05/19/12 06:27 PM

Can someone help me with this, why does it seems that you can always give very good advice to people about their problems and see it worked out like you said it would, but you cannot do the same for yourself.


Sometimes when you're too close to the issue, you're unable to see the solution.