Topic: Obama declares support for gay marriage
msharmony's photo
Wed 05/09/12 07:31 PM


Its not really a change. HIs position was never that he was against it, he just hadnt made a firm choice yet,,,

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president

according to the article it is a change. HIS LONGSTANDING opposition...




yes, articles are never wrong

he has never said he OPPOSED them,,,

no photo
Wed 05/09/12 07:37 PM

Wow! What a nice change of heart. Wonder why he's changing now??what


Good for Obama!

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Wed 05/09/12 09:32 PM



Its not really a change. HIs position was never that he was against it, he just hadnt made a firm choice yet,,,

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president

according to the article it is a change. HIS LONGSTANDING opposition...




yes, articles are never wrong

he has never said he OPPOSED them,,,

now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U

Sloe00's photo
Wed 05/09/12 09:46 PM
All, be free in your statements.
Pres, there are more f`ng issues that involve the economy & planning for our real future, please address THAT ****. oh, forget it, you said you`d do that after the fixed re-election,,,,,, let`s see. ooh, ohhh, oh, let`s wait & see

Sloe00's photo
Wed 05/09/12 09:48 PM


Wow! What a nice change of heart. Wonder why he's changing now??what


Good for Obama!

good for Obama! I may never know another muslim-named man who would do such a thing! hooorahh!

Sloe00's photo
Wed 05/09/12 09:50 PM



Wow! What a nice change of heart. Wonder why he's changing now??what


Good for Obama!

good for Obama! I may never know another muslim-named man who would do such a thing! hooorahh!

Obama,
what would Mohammed do????

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/09/12 11:13 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/09/12 11:14 PM




Its not really a change. HIs position was never that he was against it, he just hadnt made a firm choice yet,,,

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president

according to the article it is a change. HIS LONGSTANDING opposition...




yes, articles are never wrong

he has never said he OPPOSED them,,,

now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,

Peccy's photo
Thu 05/10/12 08:38 AM





Its not really a change. HIs position was never that he was against it, he just hadnt made a firm choice yet,,,

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president

according to the article it is a change. HIS LONGSTANDING opposition...




yes, articles are never wrong

he has never said he OPPOSED them,,,

now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,
My question is, why is this even an issue? What's the big deal? Is it going to negatively affect someone else? Love is love, what gives someone the right to set parameters on how it has to be? What's chimes in as "acceptable" for one person's belief, may not for another. It's as simple as that.

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Thu 05/10/12 08:53 AM


now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,

he stated that he has christian beliefs. not what is legal


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,


he stated that he is a christian, so his beliefs are in line with the christian beliefs. unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage, than he is opposed to same sex marriage. presently, he has stated that he no longer believes the same way as he used to. i'm am positive you will find another excuse to justify his change in belief so close to election time

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/10/12 09:28 AM






Its not really a change. HIs position was never that he was against it, he just hadnt made a firm choice yet,,,

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president

according to the article it is a change. HIS LONGSTANDING opposition...




yes, articles are never wrong

he has never said he OPPOSED them,,,

now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,
My question is, why is this even an issue? What's the big deal? Is it going to negatively affect someone else? Love is love, what gives someone the right to set parameters on how it has to be? What's chimes in as "acceptable" for one person's belief, may not for another. It's as simple as that.


its just the topic of a thread

and love is not the same as marriage, the law still allows people to love and sleep with whomever they choose,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/10/12 09:30 AM



now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,

he stated that he has christian beliefs. not what is legal


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,


he stated that he is a christian, so his beliefs are in line with the christian beliefs. unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage, than he is opposed to same sex marriage. presently, he has stated that he no longer believes the same way as he used to. i'm am positive you will find another excuse to justify his change in belief so close to election time



certainly , if you can show me where he said he no longer believes as he used to

there are many christians who believe (for themself) marriage is between man and woman, but wouldnt want to deny others to decide for themself,, one is not exclusive of the other,,,,

as I said, as a christian there are many things I dont promote or believe are 'right', but that doesnt mean I would oppose their legality


lying
promiscuity
etc...

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Thu 05/10/12 11:19 AM
Edited by alleoops on Thu 05/10/12 11:20 AM




now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,

he stated that he has christian beliefs. not what is legal


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,


he stated that he is a christian, so his beliefs are in line with the christian beliefs. unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage, than he is opposed to same sex marriage. presently, he has stated that he no longer believes the same way as he used to. i'm am positive you will find another excuse to justify his change in belief so close to election time



certainly , if you can show me where he said he no longer believes as he used to


lying
promiscuity
etc...


Then why is he saying he is for it now? Why doesn't he talk about important issues like the economy and jobs? Is he is diverting attention away from those issues?
I think so.

spock

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Thu 05/10/12 12:25 PM


certainly , if you can show me where he said he no longer believes as he used to



really? slaphead wow, this thread is about that very thing. the link provided is about him changing his belief

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

others have posted about how you blindly follow obama, and when you post comments such as the one i am quoting now, it proves their point

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Then why is he saying he is for it now? Why doesn't he talk about important issues like the economy and jobs? Is he is diverting attention away from those issues?
I think so.

:thumbsup:


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 05/10/12 12:40 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 05/10/12 12:41 PM

We are talking Chicago bath house Obozo here are we not?

He had to wait until it became a "hot button" item to come out for it..... now if he would come out of the closet..... THAT would be some real news!

Real news on real items would be a nice change however!

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Thu 05/10/12 12:46 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/10/12 12:46 PM



now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,

he stated that he has christian beliefs. not what is legal


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,


esebulldog said:

he stated that he is a christian, so his beliefs are in line with the christian beliefs. unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage, than he is opposed to same sex marriage. presently, he has stated that he no longer believes the same way as he used to. i'm am positive you will find another excuse to justify his change in belief so close to election time



Are you saying then, that if you are a Christian and believe in Jesus Christ, then you are required to be against gay marriage?

you said: "unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage,"

(Yes Christians are divided.)

Also, what is wrong with a person changing their beliefs anyway? ITS CALLED PROGRESS or learning.

If someone spends their life stubbornly clinging to their twisted belief system refusing to change is not necessarily a good thing.

laugh


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 05/10/12 12:52 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 05/10/12 12:55 PM




now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,

he stated that he has christian beliefs. not what is legal


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,


esebulldog said:

he stated that he is a christian, so his beliefs are in line with the christian beliefs. unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage, than he is opposed to same sex marriage. presently, he has stated that he no longer believes the same way as he used to. i'm am positive you will find another excuse to justify his change in belief so close to election time



Are you saying then, that if you are a Christian and believe in Jesus Christ, then you are required to be against gay marriage?

you said: "unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage,"

(Yes Christians are divided.)

Also, what is wrong with a person changing their beliefs anyway? ITS CALLED PROGRESS or learning.

If someone spends their life stubbornly clinging to their twisted belief system refusing to change is not necessarily a good thing.

laugh




Just like the Constitution..... you can read it however you choose to, and there is always a "leader" to help you on your way..... doesn't make ANY of the teachings right, just diverse!

Me, I choose the LIBERTY version....and freedom of choice!

willing2's photo
Thu 05/10/12 01:30 PM

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Thu 05/10/12 01:41 PM

Are you saying then, that if you are a Christian and believe in Jesus Christ, then you are required to be against gay marriage?
no, a christian is required to conform to whatever doctrine he/she chooses to follow
you said: "unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage,"
obama stated his traditional christian view not any new progressive christian view(s)
(Yes Christians are divided.)
agreed

Also, what is wrong with a person changing their beliefs anyway? ITS CALLED PROGRESS or learning.
right, so are you willing to change your belief on 911?(sheesh)

If someone spends their life stubbornly clinging to their twisted belief system refusing to change is not necessarily a good thing.
is there a kettle in the room you could call
laugh
laugh laugh

the topic is about obama changing his christian view against same sex marriage. traditional christian view is man and woman marriage which he stated in the video link

there is nothing wrong with changing a belief. obama seems to have changed his belief to help with his bid in the election. nothing wrong with that either. the problem is some people posting that obama's stance was never against same sex marraige, so the news report of him making a change is not true

it is helpful to read topic threads from the beginning to be able to contribute to the thread and not stray too much from the original topic

mightymoe's photo
Thu 05/10/12 01:49 PM





now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,

he stated that he has christian beliefs. not what is legal


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,


he stated that he is a christian, so his beliefs are in line with the christian beliefs. unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage, than he is opposed to same sex marriage. presently, he has stated that he no longer believes the same way as he used to. i'm am positive you will find another excuse to justify his change in belief so close to election time



certainly , if you can show me where he said he no longer believes as he used to


lying
promiscuity
etc...


Then why is he saying he is for it now? Why doesn't he talk about important issues like the economy and jobs? Is he is diverting attention away from those issues?
I think so.

spock


the only thing obama cares about right now is getting reelected... nothing else. anything he says from now on will be a lie to win over the stupid democrats...

willing2's photo
Thu 05/10/12 01:53 PM






now i know without a doubt that your reading comprehension is bias. you say he has never said he OPPOSED them when he reversed his longstanding opposition to them

http://youtu.be/N6K9dS9wl7U



really?

lets see

I dont 'promote' it, = I am opposed to it (as a matter of law)

I Believe it is a union between a man and women = I am opposed to it (As a matter of law)


I Believe it is a STATE issue= I Am aoopsed to it (AS a matter of law)


,,,,,I dont really know what to say to those who saw that and interpreted it as anything LIKE opposing same sex marriage as it relates to the LAW,,,,,

he stated that he has christian beliefs. not what is legal


I dont believe tattoos are attractive OR healthy, and I dont promote them, but that doesnt mean I would OPPOSE others having the right to have them,,,,


he stated that he is a christian, so his beliefs are in line with the christian beliefs. unless you believe that christian's are divided in their belief on same sex marriage, than he is opposed to same sex marriage. presently, he has stated that he no longer believes the same way as he used to. i'm am positive you will find another excuse to justify his change in belief so close to election time



certainly , if you can show me where he said he no longer believes as he used to


lying
promiscuity
etc...


Then why is he saying he is for it now? Why doesn't he talk about important issues like the economy and jobs? Is he is diverting attention away from those issues?
I think so.

spock


the only thing obama cares about right now is getting reelected... nothing else. anything he says from now on will be a lie to win over the stupid democrats...

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Sooooo true.