Topic: Obama the liar
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Wed 05/02/12 02:32 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Wed 05/02/12 02:52 PM
Obama lied, by implying that one of his past girlfriends was a racist. He described an incident, which he now admits "happened, but not with her". So we are to believe that he dragged her name through the mud to protect some other woman? What kind of creep did you guys elect? laugh


Obama: 'New York girlfriend' was composite

"In Dreams from My Father, Obama chose to emphasize a racial chasm that unavoidably separated him from the woman he described as his New York girlfriend," Maraniss writes, offering a passage from the book in which they go to see a play by a black playwright:

One night I took her to see a new play by a black playwright. It was a very angry play, but very funny. Typical black American humor. The audience was mostly black, and everybody was laughing and clapping and hollering like they were in church. After the play was over, my friend started talking about why black people were so angry all the time. I said it was a matter of remembering—nobody asks why Jews remember the Holocaust, I think I said—and she said that’s different, and I said it wasn’t, and she said that anger was just a dead end. We had a big fight, right in front of the theater. When we got back to the car she started crying. She couldn’t be black, she said. She would if she could, but she couldn’t. She could only be herself, and wasn’t that enough.

"None of this happened with Genevieve," Maraniss writes. "She remembered going to the theater only once with Barack, and it was not to see a work by a black playwright. When asked about this decades later, during a White House interview, Obama acknowledged that the scene did not happen with Genevieve. “It is an incident that happened,” he said. But not with her. He would not be more specific, but the likelihood is that it happened later, when he lived in Chicago.

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Wed 05/02/12 03:56 PM
Too late to convince some of his kool-aids victims/volunteers.

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Wed 05/02/12 04:02 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/02/12 04:03 PM

Obama lied, by implying that one of his past girlfriends was a racist. He described an incident, which he now admits "happened, but not with her". So we are to believe that he dragged her name through the mud to protect some other woman? What kind of creep did you guys elect? laugh


Obama: 'New York girlfriend' was composite

"In Dreams from My Father, Obama chose to emphasize a racial chasm that unavoidably separated him from the woman he described as his New York girlfriend," Maraniss writes, offering a passage from the book in which they go to see a play by a black playwright:

One night I took her to see a new play by a black playwright. It was a very angry play, but very funny. Typical black American humor. The audience was mostly black, and everybody was laughing and clapping and hollering like they were in church. After the play was over, my friend started talking about why black people were so angry all the time. I said it was a matter of remembering—nobody asks why Jews remember the Holocaust, I think I said—and she said that’s different, and I said it wasn’t, and she said that anger was just a dead end. We had a big fight, right in front of the theater. When we got back to the car she started crying. She couldn’t be black, she said. She would if she could, but she couldn’t. She could only be herself, and wasn’t that enough.

"None of this happened with Genevieve," Maraniss writes. "She remembered going to the theater only once with Barack, and it was not to see a work by a black playwright. When asked about this decades later, during a White House interview, Obama acknowledged that the scene did not happen with Genevieve. “It is an incident that happened,” he said. But not with her. He would not be more specific, but the likelihood is that it happened later, when he lived in Chicago.




WHAT?

wait,,,so because one woman that went to the theater named 'Genevieve' didnt have this scene with Obama, it never happened with ANY girlfriend he took to see a black play.......

boy , how people reach,,,


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Wed 05/02/12 04:04 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Wed 05/02/12 04:08 PM

WHAT?

wait,,,so because one woman that went to the theater named 'Genevieve' didnt have this scene with Obama, it never happened with ANY girlfriend he took to see a black play.......

boy , how people reach,,,


frustrated frustrated frustrated


His "New York Girlfriend" was Genevieve Cook. This incident is described never happened between him and Genevieve. She said it didn't happen, he now admits it didn't happen. What he wrote is a lie, regardless of if it happened with another women.

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Wed 05/02/12 04:41 PM


WHAT?

wait,,,so because one woman that went to the theater named 'Genevieve' didnt have this scene with Obama, it never happened with ANY girlfriend he took to see a black play.......

boy , how people reach,,,


frustrated frustrated frustrated


His "New York Girlfriend" was Genevieve Cook. This incident is described never happened between him and Genevieve. She said it didn't happen, he now admits it didn't happen. What he wrote is a lie, regardless of if it happened with another women.



ever heard 'the names have been changed to protect the innocent'

ever READ The book ? which states in the preface that he took certain artistic license to describe 'composite' characters as opposed to referring to individuals SPECIFICALLY,,,,,?


these are rhetorical questions, I know the answer

but its a cool edition to the 'obama the liar' campaign being waged,,,

may the best candidate win,,,:banana:

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Wed 05/02/12 04:51 PM
Okay, when you write you life story, we will have a battalion of editors and fact checkers standing by to make sure you got all the names and dates right.

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Wed 05/02/12 05:00 PM

ever heard 'the names have been changed to protect the innocent'

ever READ The book ? which states in the preface that he took certain artistic license to describe 'composite' characters as opposed to referring to individuals SPECIFICALLY,,,,,?


these are rhetorical questions, I know the answer

but its a cool edition to the 'obama the liar' campaign being waged,,,

may the best candidate win,,,:banana:


How do you think Genevieve felt to read what he wrote about her? Does it matter that she was just mashed together with some other girlfriends, "for the sake of compression"? Is this Obama saying that his girlfriends were all "typical white women"? Of course you see nothing wrong with this, nobody is surprised about that.

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Wed 05/02/12 05:01 PM

Okay, when you write you life story, we will have a battalion of editors and fact checkers standing by to make sure you got all the names and dates right.


I'm not an egotist, I don't feel the need to write two biographies about myself. Two and counting...

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Wed 05/02/12 05:05 PM


ever heard 'the names have been changed to protect the innocent'

ever READ The book ? which states in the preface that he took certain artistic license to describe 'composite' characters as opposed to referring to individuals SPECIFICALLY,,,,,?


these are rhetorical questions, I know the answer

but its a cool edition to the 'obama the liar' campaign being waged,,,

may the best candidate win,,,:banana:


How do you think Genevieve felt to read what he wrote about her? Does it matter that she was just mashed together with some other girlfriends, "for the sake of compression"? Is this Obama saying that his girlfriends were all "typical white women"? Of course you see nothing wrong with this, nobody is surprised about that.



Since he didnt mention her NAME in the book, I imagine she may have thought he was talking about someone else

OR

she may have read the opening of the book and realized he was going to use composites,,,

this is obama explaining how the racial divide of that time affected his interracial relationships,,,,

and I see the word 'typical' nowehere in this passage either,,,,

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Wed 05/02/12 05:05 PM


Okay, when you write you life story, we will have a battalion of editors and fact checkers standing by to make sure you got all the names and dates right.


I'm not an egotist, I don't feel the need to write two biographies about myself. Two and counting...


So far as I know you haven't been elected to the office of president of the United States either.
So even if you did write it I doubt many people would want to read it.

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Wed 05/02/12 05:07 PM



Okay, when you write you life story, we will have a battalion of editors and fact checkers standing by to make sure you got all the names and dates right.


I'm not an egotist, I don't feel the need to write two biographies about myself. Two and counting...


So far as I know you haven't been elected to the office of president of the United States either.
So even if you did write it I doubt many people would want to read it.


I take it this is supposed to be a biting comment, it was more of a gumming comment...it lacks teeth. I'm a typical wage slave, cubical jocky. Everything you need to know about me was in the movie Office Space or the comic strip Dilbert.

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Wed 05/02/12 05:08 PM

Since he didnt mention her NAME in the book, I imagine she may have thought he was talking about someone else


She was his only girl friend in New York, unless you now want to say he was cheating on her.

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Wed 05/02/12 05:14 PM


Okay, when you write you life story, we will have a battalion of editors and fact checkers standing by to make sure you got all the names and dates right.


I'm not an egotist, I don't feel the need to write two biographies about myself. Two and counting...



have you written even one?

I dont disparage those who choose to write biographies, particularly if they pertain to significant issues , like racism in college years or hope in political years (OBama)

or if they are about a 'world transformed' and all the notes and afterthoughts afterwards (George H W Bush)

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Wed 05/02/12 05:15 PM


Since he didnt mention her NAME in the book, I imagine she may have thought he was talking about someone else


She was his only girl friend in New York, unless you now want to say he was cheating on her.


there was a second option,,,,reading the WHOLE book, and not just passages,,especially the first TWENTY pages where it is explained that some characters are COMPOSITES,,,,

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Wed 05/02/12 05:19 PM



Okay, when you write you life story, we will have a battalion of editors and fact checkers standing by to make sure you got all the names and dates right.


I'm not an egotist, I don't feel the need to write two biographies about myself. Two and counting...



have you written even one?

I dont disparage those who choose to write biographies, particularly if they pertain to significant issues , like racism in college years or hope in political years (OBama)

or if they are about a 'world transformed' and all the notes and afterthoughts afterwards (George H W Bush)


Two autobiographies before he was elected president. He's got quite the ego.

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Wed 05/02/12 05:22 PM
HAAAAA

so its only presidents whose egos are justified...got it

senators dont count,,,,


politics is a strange wave,, both shallow and deep all at once,,,

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Wed 05/02/12 05:28 PM

HAAAAA

so its only presidents whose egos are justified...got it

senators dont count,,,,


politics is a strange wave,, both shallow and deep all at once,,,


Yeah...you didn't read what I wrote correctly. Obama wrote two autobiographies before he became President. Who was clamoring for more about Obama? He admits that the sales of his first book were disappointing and convinced him that he would never be a writer. Why the next book? His ego. He wrote another book, because he needed acclaim and thought he might be able to get that with another book.

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Wed 05/02/12 05:33 PM
yes, he wroteone book as a project while he was editor for Harvard Law Review

he wrote a second book(Ten years later) after being chosen for senatorial nominee,,,

both were pretty significant and environment changing events which he was warranted in visiting in his memoirs,,,



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Wed 05/02/12 06:57 PM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 05/02/12 07:02 PM



Okay, when you write you life story, we will have a battalion of editors and fact checkers standing by to make sure you got all the names and dates right.


I'm not an egotist, I don't feel the need to write two biographies about myself. Two and counting...


So far as I know you haven't been elected to the office of president of the United States either.
So even if you did write it I doubt many people would want to read it.

Alot

HellYea!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
:banana:

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Wed 05/02/12 07:01 PM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 05/02/12 07:04 PM

yes, he wroteone book as a project while he was editor for Harvard Law Review

he wrote a second book(Ten years later) after being chosen for senatorial nominee,,,

both were pretty significant and environment changing events which he was warranted in visiting in his memoirs,,,





really? Ilike it a lot.winking