Every now and then, a male participant here will complain about women rejecting "nice" men while claiming to want "nice" men.

It seems to me that such a complaint is somewhat a straw-man complaint.

Has any woman here ever claimed to be searching for a "nice" man?

How do the women here define "nice" when the word is applied to a man?

Likewise, has any man here ever claimed to be searching for a "nice" woman?

How do the men here define "nice" when the word is applied to a woman?

If she doesn't throw banana peels at me, I think she is pretty damn nice and a keeper.

But they all throw banana peels dammit!


Anyway, already did my rant about this in another thread. I don't believe in the whole "nice" men and women back and forth thing.

I believe we are human beings with our own individual tastes and interests and people need to just accept that and quite throwing tantrums when they fall outside of someones interests in whatever way and for whatever reason. Everyone would be much happier in my opinion.

Honestly most of the men that claim to be a nice man have several hidden flaws they do not talk about..

And lord knows I'm not perfect but just because one is nice does not mean they have their **** together... nor they are a great lover or friend to live with...

Ya see when a man has to tell how good he is it is a red flag of a needy person that wants a mama which most women have no desire for.....

I'm sure a few more will throw in a few more issues with these so called nice guys...

Never trust "nice" people.

They always make the local news with a mug shot and some neighbor talking to a camera crew saying "He was always so quiet and nice"

Those guys bury bodies in the back yard.

But...I am bad@$$ed...you have met me! Hell. you slept with me in Louisiana!

hehehehehehe

I am pretty freaking awesome (but, I am humble about it)

PS. I never asked you women to be mommas....I asked you to show me your boobs. For me....THAT is the "red flag"...(that I would have to ask)

now...go ahead and just whip those puppies out ladies

Nice, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder....

Nice isn't a word I'd choose to describe what I'm looking for. It's overused and not really used how it should be. Most who describe themselves as "nice guys" aren't that nice anyway.

nice is considerate of others ,,,its making the extra effort to (at the minimum) not harm ot hurt others or (at the maximum) to make others feel good at all times,,,

Fair eough....

Since when do any of us find what we are looking for?

Life is a buffet.....the best stuff is the things we never even thought we would taste.

Stop looking.....start sampling.

I don't have a list of things I'm looking for. It happens when it happens.

Actually, they mostly seem to be nice GUYS complaining about women not wanting nice GUYS.

A man who describes himself as "nice" to me for the most part falls into the category of a passive aggressive man who uses his failures as a reason to take it out on himself and everyone else. I know there has to be nice men out there but they would never complain that their niceness is a problem because they wouldn't view it that way.

If a woman describes a man as nice to me, I take it that he is kind and polite. That does not come across as he is "the one" though.

Everyone is "nice" at one point or other...but everyone is entitled to get angry or upset which often isn't so nice.
That is life.
Welcome to the human race.

Race? Oh man, I didn't even bring my running shoes.

What's the significance of guys in all caps?

I just seem to notice more nice guy threads is all.

Ah. Yeah, many guys do whine about nice guys finishing last. Or no women wanting nice guys. You don't see that from women so much.

at least all women admit to being bitchy.

I'm sure their are genuinely. nice guys out their. I'm sure some of the ones complaining may be nice guys who have had a bad experience. Lots of us have had bad experiences. . .learn from them. .their are women who want a nice guy out their you just gotta know where to look.

What comes to mind is 'no one is perfect' whether male or female. and people can be said to be a nice person i.e. kind, considerate, polite, thoughful, plesant to be with ... are some things that come to mind. Niceness, is a person's goodness within.

However no one is perfect and if a nice person is given to be nice there is wiggle room of 10% for slip ups (thinking of the Bell Curve from Biostatistics).

Then, statisically one can say with 90% confidence, that, people who are grouped as "nice people (both genders)" there is a 10% allowance for slip ups.

Therefore I say, nice people have "bad hair days" for no one is perfect. So, just forgive and forget their un-niceness when it occurs looking at the overall person not an incident in time.