It's good enough for ANY druggie, drug dealing gang banger's and tough guys. I don't care what color they are. They are ALL garbage and a drain on the tax payers and the system.

It affects me because it pisses me off. I see and deal with punks and wanna be tough guys like Martin on a daily basis and guess what they ALL end up the same way, going away with the metal bracelets on.

again with the 'gang banging' of which there is no EVIDENCE and no arrests for,,,

also no evidence he was a 'druggie' or a drug dealer, nor any arrests for those activities

what is fact is that he was suspended for graffiti and tardiness and marijuana 'residue'

far from 'gang banging',,,but still enough to warrant applause over his death apparently

No evidence he was a druggie? Hmmmm, he was suspended from school for drugs and being under the influence. Yea, I guess that makes him the poster child for sobriety eh?

You don't have residue on your person if you don't do the $hit.

wanna be tough guy? is that why he changed directions, crossed the street, AND ran? doesnt sound like someone trying to be tough,,(especially while on the phone with a girl, the prime time tough guys show off...)


on the other hand, getting out the car to follow around someone 'suspicious' and 'on drugs' (who turns out to not be on drugs at all) so they dont 'get away',, is pretty tough guyish....

there was no suspension for UNDER THE INFLUENCE...

it was for 'residue' on a baggy,,,,

No. He turned around got in someones face and made threats and attacked someone.

And no, that is someone who is concerned with a spike in crime rate in his neighborhood. Do I agree with how Zimmerman handled it? Absolutely not but I do think the moment he listened to the dispatcher and backed off and Martin approached him Martin was in the wrong.

lol, we will wait for what the evidence finds, in regards to how soon after the conversation he 'backed off',,,,,,

all we KNOW is , (according to zimmerman while on the phone)

treyvon changed directions, crossed the street , and ran,,,,and that Zimmerman was at that point FOLLOWING HIM,,,,

Zimmerman was jumped from behind. That's the only way a kid like Martin could have got over on him and bloodied him up as shown in the pictures taken by police right after the incident.

Tell me this. How much experience do you have in actually stopping a crime in progress? How much experience do you have taking someone into custody? How much experience do you have investigating a crime that has taken place? How much experience do you have in interviewing a suspect in a crime? How much experience do you have in defensive tactics and restraining someone? How much experience do you have in self defense?

which version is that?

how do you 'get up in someones face' from behind?

the pictures I saw were of blood on the back of his bald head,,blood runs down, its called gravity.

Im not a cop, so I dont stop crimes, take people into custody, investigate crimes , interview suspects, restrain people,,,and I have no legal right as a citizen to do any of those things either,,,,

lets wait on the evidence,,,,

Let's see, I do all of the above and I am not a cop and actually you do have that right it is called a citizens arrest.

I have taken over 1,000 people into custody and interviewed them in over 14 years of doing what I do. I have gone through extensive training over 40 hours of Defensive Tactics and restraint training a year (by choice) I am also a Level two WZ (Wicklander-Zulawski) certified interviewer. Also I am a Wicklander certified forensics Interviewer and a Wicklander certified interviewer.

I also took a lot more extensive training to be able to do my job and to do it very successfully. I was just recruited to a much larger corporation because of my training and the quality of my work and my experience.

I also have a PI license here in Nevada.

thats good for you,, you are not Zimmerman and he was not you, he had no 'extensive training' and no certifications , he was just a want to be cop with no real legal authority over anyone,,,

and there is no court that would say you have the right to put your hands on me because Im 'suspicious',,thats a different standard than a citizens arrest to actually 'stop a crime in progress'.....

Zimmerman didn't put his hands on him he just followed a suspicious person.

Zimmerman wasn't trying to be a cop either.

This is a reminder to leave the insults and attacks off of the forums. Please remember to report posts instead of attacking back.

Kim

we will wait for the evidence of what happened

George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting

George Zimmerman's great grandfather was black? You mean this is a black-on-black crime? Quick! Everyone act like you were never outraged and tell white people they are racists and will never understand!

who cares about his great grandfather, Im sure his dad put on all his documents as a child that he is 'black'
,,,,,,


IM sure the police saw him and thought he was 'black'

the father didnt mention this 'black' heritage either


and it wouldnt change the details of a grown man stalking a kid and ending up causing his death with almost no real investigation into it,if the public had not kept attention on it,,,,

Both of these posts just reek of being so sure of a given outcome, and assume knowledge of what actually occurred that night.

You both should be ashamed, you guys are the problem.