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Topic: stupid question has anyone ever bought a fake diploma
manny809's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:09 AM
has anyone got away with a fake diploma just curious

pyxxie13's photo
Wed 04/11/12 09:17 AM
Wow that is a very strange question. I was not aware you could buy one! All them wasted years of medical school sheesh!

FindMe1113's photo
Wed 04/11/12 09:23 AM
Many years ago, you could have bought one in New York....but not anymore!!!

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 04/11/12 09:27 AM
Wow but just wow.....I guess it is good if one wants to lie about who they are and what they have succeeded doing within life...Kind of hard to live up to something one did not earn...noway

So my answer is noooooooooooo and never would...my life is based upon whom I'm and what I have actually done....bigsmile

wux's photo
Wed 04/11/12 06:00 PM

Many years ago, you could have bought one in New York....but not anymore!!!


Yeah... "Maniszewitz's Whoopy Cushions, Fake Diplomas and Inkblots" cash-and-carry closed down after the emotional collapse of the Banking Industry.

Pissed me off, I needed a Veterinary Assistant's Certificate on a moment's notice after my application for a Turret and PopGun operator position at the Canadian Ballet Company was turned down.

wux's photo
Wed 04/11/12 06:10 PM
People, this is not a joke what you will read here.

I graduated from college in 1988, when I was 34 years of age.

I got my college degree at the fall convocation. My mentor was with me, a financial mentor, who thought I was smart enough to finish college despite being completely nuts in every other aspect. I read the diploma, she read it, and she said, "hey, they misspelled your last name." She was right. They left out a Z and transposed the M with one of the E-s.

I took it back to the admin office. They were extremely apologetic, and they told me they had been aware. They said the printers could not make one now, because these thigns were done always in a mass-run, to save money. Apparently gold letters are cheaper by the dozen.

The office admin of grads told me they will get one printed up soon, and to hang on to my britches and to this false degree. If a potential employer makes funny noises about it, they told me, tell the HR of that firm to call the college.

Months went by. I got my first permanent job in the field, I forged ahead building the country, when the new Degree arrived in the mail.

I never took the misprint back to the school. They never asked for it.

It is in the bottom of one of my boxes still, right next to the regular one.

I am the only one man in existence, who has two identical printed degrees in the same discipline, with the identical curriculum and academic requirements to graduate.

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Now I think, this very moment it came to me, that if I go on a date, and she asks me what it is that makes me truly unique, I now know I can bang out proudly that no other human ever has had or will have had two degrees that are identical even for the graduation date of issue. I don't have to mention the name thing, really, and then I won't be lying.

wux's photo
Wed 04/11/12 06:19 PM

has anyone got away with a fake diploma just curious


Hey, this is also true, below. Things are coming back to me, slowly, as if I was the Creator of all things under the sun.

I Toronto, where I lived for forty years, a Polytechnical Institute applied for accreditation of a university for itself. I was teaching programming there, part-time, in the evenings, while I programmed for a bank during the day.

So the University could only keep on full-time professors who had a Ph.D. At least half of the entire full-time staff did not have this qualifying qualificatin. So there was a scramble to somehow get a doctorate. It could be any discipline. But how do you get a doctorate overnight? This was a very hard problem. It was such a diffult problem that only Ph.D. candidates could solve in a reasonable amount of time.

And an instrcutor (a lecturere, prof, whatever) who was from Hungary.

He talked to his university instructor buddies back in the old country. He travelled there in the summer brake, deliverd a lecture of sorts at the Pecs University in Hungary, and they immediately issued him a bona fide Ph.D. degree.

He then came back to Toronto, submitted his application to keep his job, and it was turned down, because the committee that had been mandated to check out credentials did actually did its job very conscienciously. They checked with the Ministry of Education in Hungary, and then in a few phone calls in the next few hours they completely unravelled the story of the Ph.D.

So, this long it too, OP: I did know OF a person who got a fake degree, but he did not get away with it.

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Wed 04/11/12 06:35 PM
I am Not a Psychologist...........



But......



I play one on the....


Internet!!!!

I have a dyploma from.....WhatsamattaU!!!

:wink:

wux's photo
Wed 04/11/12 06:37 PM
Edited by wux on Wed 04/11/12 06:40 PM

has anyone got away with a fake diploma just curious


You guys probably think I'm nuts, but I'm going nuts because I remember another true story in the line of the current topic.

The Toronto Stock Exchange went computerized, can't remember the year. They needed someone to preside over the development and installation.

They got this brilliant guy with a degree from Yale, a Masters in combinatorix from Heidelberg, and a Ph.D. in Superlative System configurational architecture from Oxford.

He was a brilliant man. His mandate was to deliver a testable system in twenty-seven months, and to get it up and running in real application in thirty-two months.

The guy had delivered a flawless system in eleven months. Everything worked, according to specs, and it had been thoroughly tested. It wasn't just a programming or systems job; it was probably one of the toughest software thing then, to that date, as it had to incorporate mainframes, minis, micros, of all kinds of platforms, with a state-of-the-art unbreachable security and protection in place, and had to deal with Internet applications, mixing it with mainframe operating system.

The guy had a hundred people working for them, and he almost got a medal.

They were just about ready, the board of directors, to put him permanently in charge of the entire department, when the stink bomb hit the fan: he never had a Ph.D., he never had a Masters, he did not even have a Bachelor's degree. He was just simply a very, very smart man. He was young, too.

The authorities fired him, and chucked his system, had to hire an emergency programming company, which put three thousand systems professionals to get the job incl. the testing, done by the deadline.

This cost the TSE a huge bundle of money.

But they had to fire the guy. He even went to jail, too, I think.

They had to fire him, because in Ontario they fire people who make substantial inaccuracies about reporting their qualifications.

They had to chuck his system, as he was from one moment to the next downgraded from a smart leader and brilliant executive with vision, to being a scoundrel, a criminal, a satanic devil.

And therefore his system was immediately deemed not to be trusted. The guy was not suspected, or charged with, putting in funny programming into the system or into the code, but a man who lied by saying he has a Ph.D. from Oxford is a man who is capable of such a thing. He lost he trust of his employer, and the system he had built for them was chucked.

His system was never even checked for fraud or for bugs, that is, the code was not even walked through to see. It would have taken too long, and that meant expenses. Although I would not be surprised if it turned out that the entire system code was sent to Langley, Virginia, to the CIA headquarters, for evidence or on the training field for the forensic computer department of the CIA.

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Here was another man who did not present fake papers, but he lied nevertheless and made the false impression that he had earned his degrees.

Here's he clincher: He spoke with the most charming and learned-sounding English accent from the UK. Canadians are robbed of all their defences, and survival skills when they hear a nice British accent.

So everyone subliminally thought the first round go, that he couldn't possibly not have had a Ph.D. degree, what with an accent like that.

His downfall was that the "checking" committee never met him in person, so they did not have a personal bias in his favour.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 04/11/12 08:29 PM
Yeah, I bought a fake diploma once.

No, I didn't get ripped off. I paid for the diploma with this:

Totage's photo
Wed 04/11/12 08:33 PM

has anyone got away with a fake diploma just curious


No, why fake something like that? It's easy to confirm, and even if they do not confirm it, you will be revealed as a fraud eventually.

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Thu 04/12/12 07:21 PM
fake diploma...no... fake i.d. ... maybe a long time agobigsmile

oldhippie1952's photo
Thu 04/12/12 07:50 PM

has anyone got away with a fake diploma just curious


The way background checks are doen you cannot get away with it.

krupa's photo
Thu 04/12/12 08:06 PM
How dumb or lazy do you gotta be to not even pass the basics of education?

I passed with a solid 56 (back when 60 was passing)



Money can buy a lot of things...but no woman ever thought being stupid is sexy.

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Thu 04/12/12 08:08 PM

How dumb or lazy do you gotta be to not even pass the basics of education?

I passed with a solid 56 (back when 60 was passing)



Money can buy a lot of things...but no woman ever thought being stupid is sexy.


Which is why I try to keep my mouth shut.....How does the old saying go...better to be thought of as a fool then to open ones mouth and remove all doubt haha

krupa's photo
Thu 04/12/12 08:13 PM

has anyone got away with a fake diploma just curious


so...I gotta ask..what the hell would you do with a fake diploma?

I can't see it being useful for anything more than a spliff wrap.

krupa's photo
Thu 04/12/12 08:15 PM


How dumb or lazy do you gotta be to not even pass the basics of education?

I passed with a solid 56 (back when 60 was passing)



Money can buy a lot of things...but no woman ever thought being stupid is sexy.


Which is why I try to keep my mouth shut.....How does the old saying go...better to be thought of as a fool then to open ones mouth and remove all doubt haha


I got no problem with being the village idiot....it works out pretty good.

galendgirl's photo
Thu 04/12/12 08:40 PM

has anyone got away with a fake diploma just curious


Short answer - no.

Additional question...why? You can't get a job with one of those (they verify your credentials) so who would you be showing it to?

Magicman1950's photo
Thu 04/12/12 09:19 PM
People get away with using them all the time, Google diploma mills and find them. However its a stupid idea and if you want to be something youre not, go ahead. Phoney is phoney if you use a fake diploma you are a fake.

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Thu 04/12/12 09:40 PM
As bad as it may seem, someone with a fake diploma seems alot better than someone using a fake driver's license and actually operating a vehicle. With a fake diploma, you would probably get caught, or fired from a job quick once they see you're dumb and can't do the tasks. The way i see it is a person with a fake diploma would just waste peoples time, but a person with a fake driver's license and operating a vehicle is way more dangerous, least that's the perspective i see in my head right now.

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