Topic: 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
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Mon 04/23/12 06:38 AM


The loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires have a vested interest in keeping us in line, that is a given.
OMG,it's coming apart,what was once a tightly knit Conspiracy has now devolved to a Control by some unspecified Elite to a loose Affiliation of Millionaires!laugh


The average conspiracy theorist will argue with NASA, Nobel-prize winners, and every expert in the world despite having fewer qualifications than the average fry cook.
Conspiracy theorists view logical argument as cheating.
Like pizzing fetishes and tentacle rape comics, conspiracy theories are a problem made much worse by the Internet.
Never assume malice when incompetence will do.

An Ego Issue:
Conspiracy theorists divide the world into "Everyone even remotely involved/qualified vs. Me," and decide that they'll win single-handedly. They're like Rambo with bullchit instead of bullets.
They tend to enjoy the ego-boost that comes with thinking of oneself as the only intelligent objector in a world of sheeple. When the government has to spend billions of dollars shuttling Elvis from Roswell to the Bermuda Triangle and back in black helicopters before you can feel good about yourself, you've got to be pretty tragic.

Shadowy Organizations:
Conspiracy theorists believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy organizations who - despite conspiring with millions in perfect silence - can't resist putting clues in things like major public monuments and every note of currency ever printed. Making the average Batman villain look like Professor Moriarty.

At the last count the world was secretly being run by the Illuminati, Knights Templar, Freemasons, Trilateral commission, New World Order, Skull & Bones society, Bilderberg group, Nine Unknown Men and the ever-popular Jews. It's unknown whether they all vote on various issues or just ask Dan Brown whose turn it is each week. Conspiracy theorists honestly believe that these invisible elites have run thousands of years of history but are incapable of killing someone who lives in a basement and shouts on street corners.

Conspiracy Theorist Abilities:
Conspiracy theorists display incredible attention to detail, an even more incredible ability to ignore details they don't like, obsessive focus and a complete absence of social skills. Every time a new crazy decides that Bush brought down World Trade Center, anime loses a powerful Pokemaster.

Summary:
Conspiracy theories connect the dots of random events into meaningful patterns and then infuse those patterns with intentional agency. Add to those propensities the confirmation bias (which seeks and finds confirmatory evidence for what we already believe) and the hindsight bias (which tailors after-the-fact explanations to what we already know happened), and we have the foundation

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 04/23/12 06:42 AM



The loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires have a vested interest in keeping us in line, that is a given.


This makes no sense..

If they wanted to keep their power and status it would be much easier to do things the right way.

They are outnumbered 8 billion to what a few million?

You think their goal is piss off the entire planet so one day there is a massive insurrection and they end up with their heads on a pike?

It is not like there aren't lists available of who the richest people are..

Do they have spaceships that are going to fly them to mars in case of revolt?

Give me a break..


They have spaceships? Of course! It all makes sense now! No wonder Obama canceled the Manned Space Program!

The reality is the "truthers" are either at the top, making money on DVDs, tee shirts, and donations or at the bottom spreading dumbazz theories that no intelligent person could believe.

I'll post the ex truther's resignation letter again just because it tells so much about the ones on here who are either at the top making money or at the bottom spreading the lies.

My name is Mike Metzger, MikeyMetz for short, co-founder of 9/11 Truth UAlbany. I will not go on about my past accomplishments in the "truth" movement, but I invite you to check out the official site and our stuff on GoogleVideo if you're that interested in my background.

I figure the best way to start this all out is by reposting a Facebook note that explains my "sudden change of heart" to anyone who was interested.

Change of Heart?

I might be thinking too much of myself, but I'm sure some of you are already jumping to conclusions over my apparent "change of heart." I can hear it already. "Mikey stopped smoking pot, and now he's ultra-conservative all of sudden." Or, how about "Mikey's ****in girlfriend changed him overnight."

If there's anyone who simplified my situation using one of these rationalizations immediately upon observing the obvious changes in my profile, I don't think it's too outrageous to claim that you're one who quickly jumps to conclusions. I don't mean to offend anyone (although, I know I am), but I think that statement is rather representative of the entire 9/11 Truth Movement.

My "change of heart" didn't happen overnight. This has been a process that has been eating away at me for the past month and a half. I wanted to act strategically as far as "coming out" as a means to perhaps transition the 9/11 Truth group on campus to one that was less focused on strictly 9/11-related issues (aka more truthful ones). However, I was exposed to something that truly angered me deep down in the wee hours of this morning, which I'll get to later. I was so outraged that I can no longer keep my mouth shut.

For whatever reasons at the time, I no-showed the 8/11 truth action our group was doing in Albany. Instead, I watched a movie called Screw Loose Change. I expected it to point out a few corrections in some minor details of the film. To my surprise, it contested just about every claim in the entire movie. I was a bit shocked.

I was a true believer of all this controlled demolition nonsense for a time. I never cared about the physics or the claims of pseudo-"experts." What always did it for me was the fact that there was never a decent response to any of these questions by the government. Even the hit pieces you'd see on 9/11 were always personal attacks. The mainstream never contested the actual "facts" movies like Loose Change presented.

Or so it seemed. After watching Screw Loose Change, I delved into the world of 9/11 Truth debunking. Among my favorites are the Screw Loose Change Blog and 9/11 Myths Finally, someone was answered all these pertinent questions with something that was a bit foreign to me... facts agreed upon by the experts.

There are no facts in the 9/11 Truth Movement. Just a lot of theories, which eventually break down to "hey, we're just asking questions" if someone questions the validity of such. No structural, civil, or any engineers agree with the truthers. Yet, most of my friends will try to explain the hard physics involved in structural collapses. None of these people are engineers, physicists, or even in a scientific field, for that matter. Someone's supposed to take their word over an expert's?

The truthers will just tell you that all the experts are "in on it." Yeah, sure. Every engineer in the world is complicit in the government's murder of 3,000 people. And so are the firemen, who apparently ordered Larry Silverstein to "pull" Building 7. The truthers' misrepresentation of Silverstein's quote is one of the most popular "facts" to spit out, but in doing so, you are effectively in agreement that firefighters were not only involved in the controlled demolition of WTC7, but they are also aiding and abetting in the government's cover-up. Yeah, every firefighter who was out there on 9/11 is going to be complicit in the MURDER OF 343 OF THEIR FALLEN BROTHERS! To quote Loose Change co-creator Jason Bermas, "the firefighters are paid off."

This is absolute horseshit, which brings me to why I've formally distanced myself from this sorry excuse for a movement. Loose Change, 9/11 Mysteries, Alex Jones, and all the other kooks out there are ****ing lying about, distorting, and misrepresenting the facts to further their personal agendas. And what is their agenda, you ask? Money, in the words of Shaggy 2 Dope, "mutha ****in ***** *** money." Not only are they desecrating 3,000 graves, but they are profiting off of it. That, my friends, makes me sick to my ****in stomach.

Some may think that this is just a big personal attack, and that I'm not presenting enough facts. I honestly don't give a **** because the information is out there. I love how all the truthers, myself included for a time, brag about how they've done all the "research." Well my friends, research doesn't involve looking exclusively at other 9/11 conspiracy sites! Research involves looking at things from both sides of the spectrum, and making your own decisions. Check out the links I've listed above, or google "Screw 9/11 Mysteries" and "Screw Loose Change."

Controlled demolitions: absolute ********. Now, I know there are some legitimate inconsistencies in the story that can't be proven false. My problem, and your problem as well, is that we have been blatantly misled by people who are only interested in selling dvds and t-shirts. This is supposed to be a truth movement. At this point, Alex Jones could pull every smoking gun out of *** that proves without question that 9/11 was an inside job, but it will never excuse the fact that he had lie so blatantly. **** you, **** avery & bermas, **** 9/11 mysteries, and **** every true believer who goes out there and tells people that they've "done their research."


I don't know what the future holds for the student group. For the time being, I'm gonna continue to fill out the paperwork and other such presidential duties because I take my responsibilities and promises very seriously. But you won't see me hand out one more 9/11 pamphlet, or ever utter the phrase "9/11 was an inside job" ever again. I'd personally like to see the group transition away from fringe conspiracy theories and focus more on local issues (God knows, there's enough corruption in Albany, alone), but I might get outvoted by truthers. If that is the case, I cordially invite any of the truthers who think I'm totally wrong to step up and take the reigns. The group is, in part, my creation, but I'll gladly abdicate the throne if all everyone wants to do is continue the truther nonsense.

Oh yeah, what sent me over the edge today? I watched Screw 9/11 Mysteries, which basically adds comments to the original movie. Like Screw Loose Change, every single theory spat out is immediately disproven with formal citations from the NIST report, scientific journals, and the experts themselves. By the end, the whole controlled demolition theory is a complete joke, as the film can't even keep their own story straight.

9/11 Mysteries ends very tragically with a phone call from one of the victims inside the WTC. You may have seen it, it's the guy who's frantically describing the situation to a loved one, but then suddenly, the building starts to collapse and all you hear are his last words, agonizing screams. The creators of this propaganda movie did this intentionally, to play on your emotions right after feeding you all their ******** theories.

But as I watched this film again, this time with the annotations, I knew that the creators of this movie used that poor guy's dying moments for their own selfish gains of selling dvds and perpetuating myths that do nothing but denigrate the lives lost on 9/11/01.

Change of heart? My heart's always been in the right place. I was just cheating myself of making an informed judgment on all the information available.

I'm done, thanks.




Guess now you'll hear"THEY got to him too"surprised

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 04/23/12 06:45 AM



The loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires have a vested interest in keeping us in line, that is a given.
OMG,it's coming apart,what was once a tightly knit Conspiracy has now devolved to a Control by some unspecified Elite to a loose Affiliation of Millionaires!laugh


The average conspiracy theorist will argue with NASA, Nobel-prize winners, and every expert in the world despite having fewer qualifications than the average fry cook.
Conspiracy theorists view logical argument as cheating.
Like pizzing fetishes and tentacle rape comics, conspiracy theories are a problem made much worse by the Internet.
Never assume malice when incompetence will do.

An Ego Issue:
Conspiracy theorists divide the world into "Everyone even remotely involved/qualified vs. Me," and decide that they'll win single-handedly. They're like Rambo with bullchit instead of bullets.
They tend to enjoy the ego-boost that comes with thinking of oneself as the only intelligent objector in a world of sheeple. When the government has to spend billions of dollars shuttling Elvis from Roswell to the Bermuda Triangle and back in black helicopters before you can feel good about yourself, you've got to be pretty tragic.

Shadowy Organizations:
Conspiracy theorists believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy organizations who - despite conspiring with millions in perfect silence - can't resist putting clues in things like major public monuments and every note of currency ever printed. Making the average Batman villain look like Professor Moriarty.

At the last count the world was secretly being run by the Illuminati, Knights Templar, Freemasons, Trilateral commission, New World Order, Skull & Bones society, Bilderberg group, Nine Unknown Men and the ever-popular Jews. It's unknown whether they all vote on various issues or just ask Dan Brown whose turn it is each week. Conspiracy theorists honestly believe that these invisible elites have run thousands of years of history but are incapable of killing someone who lives in a basement and shouts on street corners.

Conspiracy Theorist Abilities:
Conspiracy theorists display incredible attention to detail, an even more incredible ability to ignore details they don't like, obsessive focus and a complete absence of social skills. Every time a new crazy decides that Bush brought down World Trade Center, anime loses a powerful Pokemaster.

Summary:
Conspiracy theories connect the dots of random events into meaningful patterns and then infuse those patterns with intentional agency. Add to those propensities the confirmation bias (which seeks and finds confirmatory evidence for what we already believe) and the hindsight bias (which tailors after-the-fact explanations to what we already know happened), and we have the foundation
and then some!laugh :thumbsup: waving

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Mon 04/23/12 10:42 AM
Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."


mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/23/12 11:29 AM

Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."




solving a crime is one thing, throwing out a bunch of silliness is another...

InvictusV's photo
Mon 04/23/12 11:30 AM

Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."




And their theories are based on the unbiased preponderance of the evidence.

If they go into 9-11 thinking the world is run by the wizard of oz then you aren't really looking objectively at the evidence.

They are biased.. Their views are skewed..

They are finding exactly what they went in looking for..

A grand conspiracy, because they believe anything that happens anywhere on the planet is a conspiracy..




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Mon 04/23/12 12:47 PM



This is something I really can't comprehend..

If Bush went to all the trouble of having tons of explosives planted in the WTC to collapse the towers and building 7 for the sole purpose of creating a wave of support for the invasion of Iraq. Why in the hell didn't he have the same nefarious group fly into Iraq after the initial combat operations were over and plant a few thousand barrels of chemical and biological weapons in some remote base where they would then be found by our troops and his invasion vindicated?

There is no plausible scenario for him to "pull" the WTC complex to only then not bother to set up Iraq.

Did he not surmise that missing WMD was going to be a bit of a problem?

Planting WMD in Iraq would be the easiest part of this plot.










US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

Daily Times Monitor

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

yep,from a "Friendly" Nation!
And guess who picked it up?
RENSE!:laughing:
Nine year old Story!

Conveniently taken out by Friendly Fire!laugh

Conspiracy-Central!
Forgot Democratic Underbelly!
Make that Underground!


and no actual INFO on the supposedly to be planted WMD!

then you have Al Martin,who maintains a Conspiracy-Site!laugh

Al Martin Raw-The Conspiracy-Planet!bigsmile
Your lacking in imagination again Mr Conrad and you failed to follow the link provided again no big suprise.

From what I read it was the US army that stumbled apon the black op and of course was not informed to look the other way

again here is the link you will notice it isnt at Rense or Al Martin who ever he is. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9


SO it looks like they tried to plant WMDS and failed at least tht is what the available evidence points too.

Being a rational adult I would assume if this DOD insider was makeing things up she would probably be in jail but they would have to prove she invented the whole thing and apparently they cant or wont even try.

Just another win for me no big deal I am getting used to it.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/23/12 01:05 PM




This is something I really can't comprehend..

If Bush went to all the trouble of having tons of explosives planted in the WTC to collapse the towers and building 7 for the sole purpose of creating a wave of support for the invasion of Iraq. Why in the hell didn't he have the same nefarious group fly into Iraq after the initial combat operations were over and plant a few thousand barrels of chemical and biological weapons in some remote base where they would then be found by our troops and his invasion vindicated?

There is no plausible scenario for him to "pull" the WTC complex to only then not bother to set up Iraq.

Did he not surmise that missing WMD was going to be a bit of a problem?

Planting WMD in Iraq would be the easiest part of this plot.










US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

Daily Times Monitor

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

yep,from a "Friendly" Nation!
And guess who picked it up?
RENSE!:laughing:
Nine year old Story!

Conveniently taken out by Friendly Fire!laugh

Conspiracy-Central!
Forgot Democratic Underbelly!
Make that Underground!


and no actual INFO on the supposedly to be planted WMD!

then you have Al Martin,who maintains a Conspiracy-Site!laugh

Al Martin Raw-The Conspiracy-Planet!bigsmile
Your lacking in imagination again Mr Conrad and you failed to follow the link provided again no big suprise.

From what I read it was the US army that stumbled apon the black op and of course was not informed to look the other way

again here is the link you will notice it isnt at Rense or Al Martin who ever he is. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9


SO it looks like they tried to plant WMDS and failed at least tht is what the available evidence points too.

Being a rational adult I would assume if this DOD insider was makeing things up she would probably be in jail but they would have to prove she invented the whole thing and apparently they cant or wont even try.

Just another win for me no big deal I am getting used to it.


patting yourself on the back again, are ya?...lol

InvictusV's photo
Mon 04/23/12 01:25 PM




This is something I really can't comprehend..

If Bush went to all the trouble of having tons of explosives planted in the WTC to collapse the towers and building 7 for the sole purpose of creating a wave of support for the invasion of Iraq. Why in the hell didn't he have the same nefarious group fly into Iraq after the initial combat operations were over and plant a few thousand barrels of chemical and biological weapons in some remote base where they would then be found by our troops and his invasion vindicated?

There is no plausible scenario for him to "pull" the WTC complex to only then not bother to set up Iraq.

Did he not surmise that missing WMD was going to be a bit of a problem?

Planting WMD in Iraq would be the easiest part of this plot.










US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

Daily Times Monitor

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

yep,from a "Friendly" Nation!
And guess who picked it up?
RENSE!:laughing:
Nine year old Story!

Conveniently taken out by Friendly Fire!laugh

Conspiracy-Central!
Forgot Democratic Underbelly!
Make that Underground!


and no actual INFO on the supposedly to be planted WMD!

then you have Al Martin,who maintains a Conspiracy-Site!laugh

Al Martin Raw-The Conspiracy-Planet!bigsmile
Your lacking in imagination again Mr Conrad and you failed to follow the link provided again no big suprise.

From what I read it was the US army that stumbled apon the black op and of course was not informed to look the other way

again here is the link you will notice it isnt at Rense or Al Martin who ever he is. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9


SO it looks like they tried to plant WMDS and failed at least tht is what the available evidence points too.

Being a rational adult I would assume if this DOD insider was makeing things up she would probably be in jail but they would have to prove she invented the whole thing and apparently they cant or wont even try.

Just another win for me no big deal I am getting used to it.


dude.. there are like 2 stories on the entire web about this woman. one is on the pakistani site you linked and rense.

based on 2 sites we are supposed to believe this is factual?

if the bush haters in the media even for a second thought this was true it would have been plastered all over their sites..

it is not.. its BS..


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Mon 04/23/12 01:50 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/23/12 01:53 PM


Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."




And their theories are based on the unbiased preponderance of the evidence.

If they go into 9-11 thinking the world is run by the wizard of oz then you aren't really looking objectively at the evidence.

They are biased.. Their views are skewed..

They are finding exactly what they went in looking for..

A grand conspiracy, because they believe anything that happens anywhere on the planet is a conspiracy..






So, who do you think runs the world? laugh laugh

InvictusV's photo
Mon 04/23/12 01:55 PM



Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."




And their theories are based on the unbiased preponderance of the evidence.

If they go into 9-11 thinking the world is run by the wizard of oz then you aren't really looking objectively at the evidence.

They are biased.. Their views are skewed..

They are finding exactly what they went in looking for..

A grand conspiracy, because they believe anything that happens anywhere on the planet is a conspiracy..






So, who do you think runs the world? laugh laugh


no one..


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Mon 04/23/12 02:00 PM




Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."




And their theories are based on the unbiased preponderance of the evidence.

If they go into 9-11 thinking the world is run by the wizard of oz then you aren't really looking objectively at the evidence.

They are biased.. Their views are skewed..

They are finding exactly what they went in looking for..

A grand conspiracy, because they believe anything that happens anywhere on the planet is a conspiracy..






So, who do you think runs the world? laugh laugh


no one..





rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Oh if only that were true..... happy

no photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:01 PM




Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."




And their theories are based on the unbiased preponderance of the evidence.

If they go into 9-11 thinking the world is run by the wizard of oz then you aren't really looking objectively at the evidence.

They are biased.. Their views are skewed..

They are finding exactly what they went in looking for..

A grand conspiracy, because they believe anything that happens anywhere on the planet is a conspiracy..






So, who do you think runs the world? laugh laugh


no one..




laugh :thumbsup:

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:13 PM





Virtually anyone who has ever solved a crime is a "conspiracy theorist."




And their theories are based on the unbiased preponderance of the evidence.

If they go into 9-11 thinking the world is run by the wizard of oz then you aren't really looking objectively at the evidence.

They are biased.. Their views are skewed..

They are finding exactly what they went in looking for..

A grand conspiracy, because they believe anything that happens anywhere on the planet is a conspiracy..






So, who do you think runs the world? laugh laugh


no one..





rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Oh if only that were true..... happy

drinker



Bestinshow's photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:21 PM





This is something I really can't comprehend..

If Bush went to all the trouble of having tons of explosives planted in the WTC to collapse the towers and building 7 for the sole purpose of creating a wave of support for the invasion of Iraq. Why in the hell didn't he have the same nefarious group fly into Iraq after the initial combat operations were over and plant a few thousand barrels of chemical and biological weapons in some remote base where they would then be found by our troops and his invasion vindicated?

There is no plausible scenario for him to "pull" the WTC complex to only then not bother to set up Iraq.

Did he not surmise that missing WMD was going to be a bit of a problem?

Planting WMD in Iraq would be the easiest part of this plot.










US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

Daily Times Monitor

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

yep,from a "Friendly" Nation!
And guess who picked it up?
RENSE!:laughing:
Nine year old Story!

Conveniently taken out by Friendly Fire!laugh

Conspiracy-Central!
Forgot Democratic Underbelly!
Make that Underground!


and no actual INFO on the supposedly to be planted WMD!

then you have Al Martin,who maintains a Conspiracy-Site!laugh

Al Martin Raw-The Conspiracy-Planet!bigsmile
Your lacking in imagination again Mr Conrad and you failed to follow the link provided again no big suprise.

From what I read it was the US army that stumbled apon the black op and of course was not informed to look the other way

again here is the link you will notice it isnt at Rense or Al Martin who ever he is. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9


SO it looks like they tried to plant WMDS and failed at least tht is what the available evidence points too.

Being a rational adult I would assume if this DOD insider was makeing things up she would probably be in jail but they would have to prove she invented the whole thing and apparently they cant or wont even try.

Just another win for me no big deal I am getting used to it.


dude.. there are like 2 stories on the entire web about this woman. one is on the pakistani site you linked and rense.

based on 2 sites we are supposed to believe this is factual?

if the bush haters in the media even for a second thought this was true it would have been plastered all over their sites..

it is not.. its BS..


Did we live in the same country in the Bush years?

Lets see Dan rather gets fired for exposeing Bush's preferential treatment when he was in the "Air National Guard" Lost his job over a falsified document but the fact remained Bush did not finish his military obligation. "free pass"for the coked up fly boy.


Bestinshow's photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:22 PM



The loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires have a vested interest in keeping us in line, that is a given.
OMG,it's coming apart,what was once a tightly knit Conspiracy has now devolved to a Control by some unspecified Elite to a loose Affiliation of Millionaires!laugh


The average conspiracy theorist will argue with NASA, Nobel-prize winners, and every expert in the world despite having fewer qualifications than the average fry cook.
Conspiracy theorists view logical argument as cheating.
Like pizzing fetishes and tentacle rape comics, conspiracy theories are a problem made much worse by the Internet.
Never assume malice when incompetence will do.

An Ego Issue:
Conspiracy theorists divide the world into "Everyone even remotely involved/qualified vs. Me," and decide that they'll win single-handedly. They're like Rambo with bullchit instead of bullets.
They tend to enjoy the ego-boost that comes with thinking of oneself as the only intelligent objector in a world of sheeple. When the government has to spend billions of dollars shuttling Elvis from Roswell to the Bermuda Triangle and back in black helicopters before you can feel good about yourself, you've got to be pretty tragic.

Shadowy Organizations:
Conspiracy theorists believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy organizations who - despite conspiring with millions in perfect silence - can't resist putting clues in things like major public monuments and every note of currency ever printed. Making the average Batman villain look like Professor Moriarty.

At the last count the world was secretly being run by the Illuminati, Knights Templar, Freemasons, Trilateral commission, New World Order, Skull & Bones society, Bilderberg group, Nine Unknown Men and the ever-popular Jews. It's unknown whether they all vote on various issues or just ask Dan Brown whose turn it is each week. Conspiracy theorists honestly believe that these invisible elites have run thousands of years of history but are incapable of killing someone who lives in a basement and shouts on street corners.

Conspiracy Theorist Abilities:
Conspiracy theorists display incredible attention to detail, an even more incredible ability to ignore details they don't like, obsessive focus and a complete absence of social skills. Every time a new crazy decides that Bush brought down World Trade Center, anime loses a powerful Pokemaster.

Summary:
Conspiracy theories connect the dots of random events into meaningful patterns and then infuse those patterns with intentional agency. Add to those propensities the confirmation bias (which seeks and finds confirmatory evidence for what we already believe) and the hindsight bias (which tailors after-the-fact explanations to what we already know happened), and we have the foundation
Normaly we provide a link to a cut and paste. laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:24 PM






This is something I really can't comprehend..

If Bush went to all the trouble of having tons of explosives planted in the WTC to collapse the towers and building 7 for the sole purpose of creating a wave of support for the invasion of Iraq. Why in the hell didn't he have the same nefarious group fly into Iraq after the initial combat operations were over and plant a few thousand barrels of chemical and biological weapons in some remote base where they would then be found by our troops and his invasion vindicated?

There is no plausible scenario for him to "pull" the WTC complex to only then not bother to set up Iraq.

Did he not surmise that missing WMD was going to be a bit of a problem?

Planting WMD in Iraq would be the easiest part of this plot.










US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

Daily Times Monitor

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

yep,from a "Friendly" Nation!
And guess who picked it up?
RENSE!:laughing:
Nine year old Story!

Conveniently taken out by Friendly Fire!laugh

Conspiracy-Central!
Forgot Democratic Underbelly!
Make that Underground!


and no actual INFO on the supposedly to be planted WMD!

then you have Al Martin,who maintains a Conspiracy-Site!laugh

Al Martin Raw-The Conspiracy-Planet!bigsmile
Your lacking in imagination again Mr Conrad and you failed to follow the link provided again no big suprise.

From what I read it was the US army that stumbled apon the black op and of course was not informed to look the other way

again here is the link you will notice it isnt at Rense or Al Martin who ever he is. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9


SO it looks like they tried to plant WMDS and failed at least tht is what the available evidence points too.

Being a rational adult I would assume if this DOD insider was makeing things up she would probably be in jail but they would have to prove she invented the whole thing and apparently they cant or wont even try.

Just another win for me no big deal I am getting used to it.


dude.. there are like 2 stories on the entire web about this woman. one is on the pakistani site you linked and rense.

based on 2 sites we are supposed to believe this is factual?

if the bush haters in the media even for a second thought this was true it would have been plastered all over their sites..

it is not.. its BS..


Did we live in the same country in the Bush years?

Lets see Dan rather gets fired for exposeing Bush's preferential treatment when he was in the "Air National Guard" Lost his job over a falsified document but the fact remained Bush did not finish his military obligation. "free pass"for the coked up fly boy.


Dan Rather's Fact?
Your Fact?
Man your Facts are so contrived its scary!laugh


Al Martin Raw-The Conspiracy-Planet!bigsmile:laughing: rofl

no photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:29 PM




The loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires have a vested interest in keeping us in line, that is a given.
OMG,it's coming apart,what was once a tightly knit Conspiracy has now devolved to a Control by some unspecified Elite to a loose Affiliation of Millionaires!laugh


The average conspiracy theorist will argue with NASA, Nobel-prize winners, and every expert in the world despite having fewer qualifications than the average fry cook.
Conspiracy theorists view logical argument as cheating.
Like pizzing fetishes and tentacle rape comics, conspiracy theories are a problem made much worse by the Internet.
Never assume malice when incompetence will do.

An Ego Issue:
Conspiracy theorists divide the world into "Everyone even remotely involved/qualified vs. Me," and decide that they'll win single-handedly. They're like Rambo with bullchit instead of bullets.
They tend to enjoy the ego-boost that comes with thinking of oneself as the only intelligent objector in a world of sheeple. When the government has to spend billions of dollars shuttling Elvis from Roswell to the Bermuda Triangle and back in black helicopters before you can feel good about yourself, you've got to be pretty tragic.

Shadowy Organizations:
Conspiracy theorists believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy organizations who - despite conspiring with millions in perfect silence - can't resist putting clues in things like major public monuments and every note of currency ever printed. Making the average Batman villain look like Professor Moriarty.

At the last count the world was secretly being run by the Illuminati, Knights Templar, Freemasons, Trilateral commission, New World Order, Skull & Bones society, Bilderberg group, Nine Unknown Men and the ever-popular Jews. It's unknown whether they all vote on various issues or just ask Dan Brown whose turn it is each week. Conspiracy theorists honestly believe that these invisible elites have run thousands of years of history but are incapable of killing someone who lives in a basement and shouts on street corners.

Conspiracy Theorist Abilities:
Conspiracy theorists display incredible attention to detail, an even more incredible ability to ignore details they don't like, obsessive focus and a complete absence of social skills. Every time a new crazy decides that Bush brought down World Trade Center, anime loses a powerful Pokemaster.

Summary:
Conspiracy theories connect the dots of random events into meaningful patterns and then infuse those patterns with intentional agency. Add to those propensities the confirmation bias (which seeks and finds confirmatory evidence for what we already believe) and the hindsight bias (which tailors after-the-fact explanations to what we already know happened), and we have the foundation
Normaly we provide a link to a cut and paste. laugh


Guess you missed it the first time I posted this....Remember the joke Uma Thurman told John Travolta in Pulp Fiction Best?....Ketchup!......:tongue:

InvictusV's photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:33 PM






This is something I really can't comprehend..

If Bush went to all the trouble of having tons of explosives planted in the WTC to collapse the towers and building 7 for the sole purpose of creating a wave of support for the invasion of Iraq. Why in the hell didn't he have the same nefarious group fly into Iraq after the initial combat operations were over and plant a few thousand barrels of chemical and biological weapons in some remote base where they would then be found by our troops and his invasion vindicated?

There is no plausible scenario for him to "pull" the WTC complex to only then not bother to set up Iraq.

Did he not surmise that missing WMD was going to be a bit of a problem?

Planting WMD in Iraq would be the easiest part of this plot.










US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

Daily Times Monitor

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

yep,from a "Friendly" Nation!
And guess who picked it up?
RENSE!:laughing:
Nine year old Story!

Conveniently taken out by Friendly Fire!laugh

Conspiracy-Central!
Forgot Democratic Underbelly!
Make that Underground!


and no actual INFO on the supposedly to be planted WMD!

then you have Al Martin,who maintains a Conspiracy-Site!laugh

Al Martin Raw-The Conspiracy-Planet!bigsmile
Your lacking in imagination again Mr Conrad and you failed to follow the link provided again no big suprise.

From what I read it was the US army that stumbled apon the black op and of course was not informed to look the other way

again here is the link you will notice it isnt at Rense or Al Martin who ever he is. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9


SO it looks like they tried to plant WMDS and failed at least tht is what the available evidence points too.

Being a rational adult I would assume if this DOD insider was makeing things up she would probably be in jail but they would have to prove she invented the whole thing and apparently they cant or wont even try.

Just another win for me no big deal I am getting used to it.


dude.. there are like 2 stories on the entire web about this woman. one is on the pakistani site you linked and rense.

based on 2 sites we are supposed to believe this is factual?

if the bush haters in the media even for a second thought this was true it would have been plastered all over their sites..

it is not.. its BS..


Did we live in the same country in the Bush years?

Lets see Dan rather gets fired for exposeing Bush's preferential treatment when he was in the "Air National Guard" Lost his job over a falsified document but the fact remained Bush did not finish his military obligation. "free pass"for the coked up fly boy.




so the falsified document was true?

hahaha

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 04/23/12 02:50 PM





The loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires have a vested interest in keeping us in line, that is a given.
OMG,it's coming apart,what was once a tightly knit Conspiracy has now devolved to a Control by some unspecified Elite to a loose Affiliation of Millionaires!laugh


The average conspiracy theorist will argue with NASA, Nobel-prize winners, and every expert in the world despite having fewer qualifications than the average fry cook.
Conspiracy theorists view logical argument as cheating.
Like pizzing fetishes and tentacle rape comics, conspiracy theories are a problem made much worse by the Internet.
Never assume malice when incompetence will do.

An Ego Issue:
Conspiracy theorists divide the world into "Everyone even remotely involved/qualified vs. Me," and decide that they'll win single-handedly. They're like Rambo with bullchit instead of bullets.
They tend to enjoy the ego-boost that comes with thinking of oneself as the only intelligent objector in a world of sheeple. When the government has to spend billions of dollars shuttling Elvis from Roswell to the Bermuda Triangle and back in black helicopters before you can feel good about yourself, you've got to be pretty tragic.

Shadowy Organizations:
Conspiracy theorists believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy organizations who - despite conspiring with millions in perfect silence - can't resist putting clues in things like major public monuments and every note of currency ever printed. Making the average Batman villain look like Professor Moriarty.

At the last count the world was secretly being run by the Illuminati, Knights Templar, Freemasons, Trilateral commission, New World Order, Skull & Bones society, Bilderberg group, Nine Unknown Men and the ever-popular Jews. It's unknown whether they all vote on various issues or just ask Dan Brown whose turn it is each week. Conspiracy theorists honestly believe that these invisible elites have run thousands of years of history but are incapable of killing someone who lives in a basement and shouts on street corners.

Conspiracy Theorist Abilities:
Conspiracy theorists display incredible attention to detail, an even more incredible ability to ignore details they don't like, obsessive focus and a complete absence of social skills. Every time a new crazy decides that Bush brought down World Trade Center, anime loses a powerful Pokemaster.

Summary:
Conspiracy theories connect the dots of random events into meaningful patterns and then infuse those patterns with intentional agency. Add to those propensities the confirmation bias (which seeks and finds confirmatory evidence for what we already believe) and the hindsight bias (which tailors after-the-fact explanations to what we already know happened), and we have the foundation
Normaly we provide a link to a cut and paste. laugh


Guess you missed it the first time I posted this....Remember the joke Uma Thurman told John Travolta in Pulp Fiction Best?....Ketchup!......:tongue:
I am more of a readerlaugh