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Topic: 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
Chazster's photo
Thu 04/19/12 01:04 PM

So what caused the mass of rubble to turn into dust?

Explain that.


Massive forces crushed concrete. That is where dust came from. Its not that hard of an explanation.

metalwing's photo
Thu 04/19/12 01:34 PM


So what caused the mass of rubble to turn into dust?

Explain that.


Massive forces crushed concrete. That is where dust came from. Its not that hard of an explanation.


Don't forget the sheetrock. There was a lot of it too.

Peccy's photo
Thu 04/19/12 01:40 PM
Face it, the WTC weighed approximately a 500,000 tons. A structure like that was obviously weakened by the impact, has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than nearly straight down. That is why it fell on itself.

metalwing's photo
Thu 04/19/12 01:47 PM

Face it, the WTC weighed approximately a 500,000 tons. A structure like that was obviously weakened by the impact, has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than nearly straight down. That is why it fell on itself.


There was a great science program last night on PBS about "Why Ships Sink". The compared the Titanic to the recent Italian cruise ship disaster.

When the Italian ship struck rock, it just ripped a huge strip of metal out of the side of the ship, and most passengers didn't even know cause the ship had so much mass, it hardly slowed.

Inertia... at work.

khiwarrior's photo
Thu 04/19/12 02:44 PM
the people that built it built it to withstand the impacts of several planes actually...

khiwarrior's photo
Thu 04/19/12 02:45 PM
and what the reported explosions that do not occur in the official stories...but were reported by newscrews outside the buildings and survivors from inside...??

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/19/12 02:46 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Thu 04/19/12 02:47 PM

the people that built it built it to withstand the impacts of several planes actually...


lol.. they didn't do a very good job then....

khiwarrior's photo
Thu 04/19/12 02:48 PM
it would seem not...

Chazster's photo
Thu 04/19/12 04:02 PM

the people that built it built it to withstand the impacts of several planes actually...


Immense nope. Lets see some details on size of planes fuel amount and impact speed. Its not gonna just be immune to planes. It will be able to withstand certain situations but they didn't plan for a full sized passenger plane being purposefully flown into them.

khiwarrior's photo
Thu 04/19/12 04:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNEAakzOYk&feature=relmfu

eye witness reporting bomb explosion before planes hit...


sorry this isnt linked properly, it never seems to work when i do it...

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 04/19/12 04:49 PM
Its totaly absurd to think those buildings fell through themselves at free fall speed, the same speed it would take as if nothing were bellow.

Its bat **** crazy to even suggest it. It convinces me the media is in the firm control of the corpo rat nazis. This should have been one of the biggest quistions of t he day.



Bestinshow's photo
Thu 04/19/12 04:55 PM



Oh dang, I am not an engineer, but I did take physics. And bestinshow and all truthers, you are not accounting on the tons of debris along with the weight of the floor driving down with more force as each floor collapsed.

Besides, one doesn't fill a prescription without a doctor, why try to explain this without a degree in engineering?
You can argue all day long but in the real world floors will not fall as fast as the law of gravity will allow when it is m,eeting resistance.

The same tons of material from above would meet more tons of material below that would provide resistance slowing the speed of the fall.

The fact that it fell at "freefall speed" tells me something had to break those floors below loose before the floors above fell on them.

No way can a building fall through itself as fast as it would take to drop a bowling ball through thin air.

Please come back to reality we welcome you here.




The amount of energy it took to fail all the connections supporting the floors of the twin towers is easy to calculate.

"The Charpy impact test, also known as the Charpy v-notch test, is a standardized high strain-rate test which determines the amount of energy absorbed by a material during fracture. This absorbed energy is a measure of a given material's toughness and acts as a tool to study temperature-dependent ductile-brittle transition. It is widely applied in industry, since it is easy to prepare and conduct and results can be obtained quickly and cheaply. A major disadvantage is that all results are only comparative.[1]

The test was developed in 1905 by French scientist Georges Charpy. It was pivotal in understanding the fracture problems of ships during WWII. Today it is used in many industries for testing materials used in the construction of pressure vessels and bridges and to determine how storms will affect materials used in them.[2]"

The amount of energy it took to accelerate the mass of each floor is given and easy to calculate. Once the columns buckled, all the weight of the building above is accelerating with the force of gravity. The force created by that large accelerated mass overwhelmed the energy absorption ability of the floors below (just like the bowling ball and piece of paper)and accelerated their mass so fast, it appears instantaneous.

No one ever claimed the building fell at free fall speed, it fell at near free fall speed because the difference is insignificant.

This is the actual science and what actually happened. You are either capable of verifying it independently or you are not.

You are either capable of understanding the science or you are not. So far you are not.

There is no cure for stupid.

Dude your grabbing at straws. Simply impossible From start to finish in ten seconds?

These buildings were not made out of dried mud they were as good as they can be built.

Ten seconds? Its totaly pathetic.

khiwarrior's photo
Thu 04/19/12 04:59 PM
*cough* inside job *cough* *cough*

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/19/12 05:18 PM

*cough* inside job *cough* *cough*


please don't feed the monkeys...laugh laugh

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/19/12 05:21 PM




Oh dang, I am not an engineer, but I did take physics. And bestinshow and all truthers, you are not accounting on the tons of debris along with the weight of the floor driving down with more force as each floor collapsed.

Besides, one doesn't fill a prescription without a doctor, why try to explain this without a degree in engineering?
You can argue all day long but in the real world floors will not fall as fast as the law of gravity will allow when it is m,eeting resistance.

The same tons of material from above would meet more tons of material below that would provide resistance slowing the speed of the fall.

The fact that it fell at "freefall speed" tells me something had to break those floors below loose before the floors above fell on them.

No way can a building fall through itself as fast as it would take to drop a bowling ball through thin air.

Please come back to reality we welcome you here.




The amount of energy it took to fail all the connections supporting the floors of the twin towers is easy to calculate.

"The Charpy impact test, also known as the Charpy v-notch test, is a standardized high strain-rate test which determines the amount of energy absorbed by a material during fracture. This absorbed energy is a measure of a given material's toughness and acts as a tool to study temperature-dependent ductile-brittle transition. It is widely applied in industry, since it is easy to prepare and conduct and results can be obtained quickly and cheaply. A major disadvantage is that all results are only comparative.[1]

The test was developed in 1905 by French scientist Georges Charpy. It was pivotal in understanding the fracture problems of ships during WWII. Today it is used in many industries for testing materials used in the construction of pressure vessels and bridges and to determine how storms will affect materials used in them.[2]"

The amount of energy it took to accelerate the mass of each floor is given and easy to calculate. Once the columns buckled, all the weight of the building above is accelerating with the force of gravity. The force created by that large accelerated mass overwhelmed the energy absorption ability of the floors below (just like the bowling ball and piece of paper)and accelerated their mass so fast, it appears instantaneous.

No one ever claimed the building fell at free fall speed, it fell at near free fall speed because the difference is insignificant.

This is the actual science and what actually happened. You are either capable of verifying it independently or you are not.

You are either capable of understanding the science or you are not. So far you are not.

There is no cure for stupid.

Dude your grabbing at straws. Simply impossible From start to finish in ten seconds?

These buildings were not made out of dried mud they were as good as they can be built.

Ten seconds? Its totaly pathetic.


i guess you've never been/worked at a construction site... they build them to code, no better... whatever the code of NYC was for skyscrapers in the 70's....

Chazster's photo
Thu 04/19/12 05:31 PM




Oh dang, I am not an engineer, but I did take physics. And bestinshow and all truthers, you are not accounting on the tons of debris along with the weight of the floor driving down with more force as each floor collapsed.

Besides, one doesn't fill a prescription without a doctor, why try to explain this without a degree in engineering?
You can argue all day long but in the real world floors will not fall as fast as the law of gravity will allow when it is m,eeting resistance.

The same tons of material from above would meet more tons of material below that would provide resistance slowing the speed of the fall.

The fact that it fell at "freefall speed" tells me something had to break those floors below loose before the floors above fell on them.

No way can a building fall through itself as fast as it would take to drop a bowling ball through thin air.

Please come back to reality we welcome you here.




The amount of energy it took to fail all the connections supporting the floors of the twin towers is easy to calculate.

"The Charpy impact test, also known as the Charpy v-notch test, is a standardized high strain-rate test which determines the amount of energy absorbed by a material during fracture. This absorbed energy is a measure of a given material's toughness and acts as a tool to study temperature-dependent ductile-brittle transition. It is widely applied in industry, since it is easy to prepare and conduct and results can be obtained quickly and cheaply. A major disadvantage is that all results are only comparative.[1]

The test was developed in 1905 by French scientist Georges Charpy. It was pivotal in understanding the fracture problems of ships during WWII. Today it is used in many industries for testing materials used in the construction of pressure vessels and bridges and to determine how storms will affect materials used in them.[2]"

The amount of energy it took to accelerate the mass of each floor is given and easy to calculate. Once the columns buckled, all the weight of the building above is accelerating with the force of gravity. The force created by that large accelerated mass overwhelmed the energy absorption ability of the floors below (just like the bowling ball and piece of paper)and accelerated their mass so fast, it appears instantaneous.

No one ever claimed the building fell at free fall speed, it fell at near free fall speed because the difference is insignificant.

This is the actual science and what actually happened. You are either capable of verifying it independently or you are not.

You are either capable of understanding the science or you are not. So far you are not.

There is no cure for stupid.

Dude your grabbing at straws. Simply impossible From start to finish in ten seconds?

These buildings were not made out of dried mud they were as good as they can be built.

Ten seconds? Its totaly pathetic.


You realize the more you say this the less educated you sound right? It doesn't matter how "well" something is made. If said thing can support 10 pounds and 1000 pounds are dropped on it, its gonna look like it can't support anything.

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 04/19/12 05:42 PM





Oh dang, I am not an engineer, but I did take physics. And bestinshow and all truthers, you are not accounting on the tons of debris along with the weight of the floor driving down with more force as each floor collapsed.

Besides, one doesn't fill a prescription without a doctor, why try to explain this without a degree in engineering?
You can argue all day long but in the real world floors will not fall as fast as the law of gravity will allow when it is m,eeting resistance.

The same tons of material from above would meet more tons of material below that would provide resistance slowing the speed of the fall.

The fact that it fell at "freefall speed" tells me something had to break those floors below loose before the floors above fell on them.

No way can a building fall through itself as fast as it would take to drop a bowling ball through thin air.

Please come back to reality we welcome you here.




The amount of energy it took to fail all the connections supporting the floors of the twin towers is easy to calculate.

"The Charpy impact test, also known as the Charpy v-notch test, is a standardized high strain-rate test which determines the amount of energy absorbed by a material during fracture. This absorbed energy is a measure of a given material's toughness and acts as a tool to study temperature-dependent ductile-brittle transition. It is widely applied in industry, since it is easy to prepare and conduct and results can be obtained quickly and cheaply. A major disadvantage is that all results are only comparative.[1]

The test was developed in 1905 by French scientist Georges Charpy. It was pivotal in understanding the fracture problems of ships during WWII. Today it is used in many industries for testing materials used in the construction of pressure vessels and bridges and to determine how storms will affect materials used in them.[2]"

The amount of energy it took to accelerate the mass of each floor is given and easy to calculate. Once the columns buckled, all the weight of the building above is accelerating with the force of gravity. The force created by that large accelerated mass overwhelmed the energy absorption ability of the floors below (just like the bowling ball and piece of paper)and accelerated their mass so fast, it appears instantaneous.

No one ever claimed the building fell at free fall speed, it fell at near free fall speed because the difference is insignificant.

This is the actual science and what actually happened. You are either capable of verifying it independently or you are not.

You are either capable of understanding the science or you are not. So far you are not.

There is no cure for stupid.

Dude your grabbing at straws. Simply impossible From start to finish in ten seconds?

These buildings were not made out of dried mud they were as good as they can be built.

Ten seconds? Its totaly pathetic.


You realize the more you say this the less educated you sound right? It doesn't matter how "well" something is made. If said thing can support 10 pounds and 1000 pounds are dropped on it, its gonna look like it can't support anything.
It will provide resistance dude and not fall at or near free fall speed. Yourtalking reinforced concrete high grade construction steel buildings built to withstand plane impacts earthquakes and hurrican winds.

You do know your sounding less educated by the moment dont you?

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/19/12 05:50 PM






Oh dang, I am not an engineer, but I did take physics. And bestinshow and all truthers, you are not accounting on the tons of debris along with the weight of the floor driving down with more force as each floor collapsed.

Besides, one doesn't fill a prescription without a doctor, why try to explain this without a degree in engineering?
You can argue all day long but in the real world floors will not fall as fast as the law of gravity will allow when it is m,eeting resistance.

The same tons of material from above would meet more tons of material below that would provide resistance slowing the speed of the fall.

The fact that it fell at "freefall speed" tells me something had to break those floors below loose before the floors above fell on them.

No way can a building fall through itself as fast as it would take to drop a bowling ball through thin air.

Please come back to reality we welcome you here.




The amount of energy it took to fail all the connections supporting the floors of the twin towers is easy to calculate.

"The Charpy impact test, also known as the Charpy v-notch test, is a standardized high strain-rate test which determines the amount of energy absorbed by a material during fracture. This absorbed energy is a measure of a given material's toughness and acts as a tool to study temperature-dependent ductile-brittle transition. It is widely applied in industry, since it is easy to prepare and conduct and results can be obtained quickly and cheaply. A major disadvantage is that all results are only comparative.[1]

The test was developed in 1905 by French scientist Georges Charpy. It was pivotal in understanding the fracture problems of ships during WWII. Today it is used in many industries for testing materials used in the construction of pressure vessels and bridges and to determine how storms will affect materials used in them.[2]"

The amount of energy it took to accelerate the mass of each floor is given and easy to calculate. Once the columns buckled, all the weight of the building above is accelerating with the force of gravity. The force created by that large accelerated mass overwhelmed the energy absorption ability of the floors below (just like the bowling ball and piece of paper)and accelerated their mass so fast, it appears instantaneous.

No one ever claimed the building fell at free fall speed, it fell at near free fall speed because the difference is insignificant.

This is the actual science and what actually happened. You are either capable of verifying it independently or you are not.

You are either capable of understanding the science or you are not. So far you are not.

There is no cure for stupid.

Dude your grabbing at straws. Simply impossible From start to finish in ten seconds?

These buildings were not made out of dried mud they were as good as they can be built.

Ten seconds? Its totaly pathetic.


You realize the more you say this the less educated you sound right? It doesn't matter how "well" something is made. If said thing can support 10 pounds and 1000 pounds are dropped on it, its gonna look like it can't support anything.
It will provide resistance dude and not fall at or near free fall speed. Yourtalking reinforced concrete high grade construction steel buildings built to withstand plane impacts earthquakes and hurrican winds.

You do know your sounding less educated by the moment dont you?


they were also retrofitted in 1980 to withstand asteroids, nano thermite, ray beams, and the windows were bulletproof also....

metalwing's photo
Thu 04/19/12 05:56 PM
Edited by metalwing on Thu 04/19/12 05:59 PM
F=Ma

Therefore

a=F/M

High school physics. Look it up.

F is the force created by gravity with the twin towers falling

M is the mass on which the force is calculated such as the mass of the floors which have fallen.

a is the acceleration of gravity.

Let's see if ONE truther can figger this out.

and let's add one more.

KE=1/2 M V**2

The energy created when it hits the ground.

khiwarrior's photo
Thu 04/19/12 06:59 PM
ive never studied physics...or engineering...but i was a counter terrorism student and even they (the lecturer's) were saying the war was over oil...and the next ones will be over water :-) looking forward to that shi*t

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