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Topic: Obama authorizes himself to declare martial law
boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Mon 03/26/12 12:07 AM
There is a similar poast on here that talks about martial law during peace time, this seems more realistic coming from the idiot in chief. President Obama has given himself the powers to declare martial law — especially in the event of a war with Iran. It is a sweeping power grab that should worry every American. On March 16, the White House released an executive order, “National Defense Resources Preparedness.” The document is stunning in its audacity and a flagrant violation of the Constitution. It states that, in case of a war or national emergency, the federal government has the authority to take over almost every aspect of American society. Food, livestock, farming equipment, manufacturing, industry, energy, transportation, hospitals, health care facilities, water resources, defense and construction — all of it could fall under the full control of Mr. Obama. The order empowers the president to dispense these vast resources as he sees fit during a national crisis. “The United States must have an industrial and technological base capable of meeting national defense requirements and capable of contributing to the technological superiority of its national defense equipment in peacetime and in times of national emergency,” the order says. “The domestic industrial and technological base is the foundation for national defense preparedness. The authorities provided in the act shall be used to strengthen this base and to ensure it is capable of responding to the national defense needs of the United States.” In short, the order gives Mr. Obama the ability to impose martial law. He now possesses the potential powers of a dictator. The order is a direct assault on individual liberties, private property rights and the rule of law. It is blatantly unconstitutional. The executive branch is arrogating responsibilities precluded by the Constitution without even asking the permission of Congress. The order gives Mr. Obama a blank check to erect a centralized authoritarian state. This is a law one would expect to find in Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela or Vladimir Putin’s Russia. The backdrop to the executive order is the looming showdown with Iran. The administration says the “window for diplomacy is closing.” Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta warned Tehran’s mullahs that “all options are on the table” — including military intervention. Mr. Obama stresses that his patience is running out. He vows that Iran will not acquire the bomb. Mr. Obama wants several more months for sanctions and international isolation to bring the ayatollahs to heel. Yet the signals are clear: Mr. Obama may be ready to launch devastating airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities. If that should happen, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has promised massive retaliation. American troops will be targeted by Iranian proxies in Iraq and Afghanistan. American embassies will be struck across the Middle East and North Africa. Most ominously, Iranian-backed Hezbollah cells could launch devastating terrorist attacks in major U.S. cities, killing numerous citizens. The war may well come home, triggering domestic chaos. These are the very real risks of a major conflict with Iran. Which begs the question: Would that tempt Mr. Obama to claim a state of emergency and thereby implement his executive order? No one knows the answer. And we shouldn’t have to find out. The president does not — and should not - have the authority to subordinate the entire private economy to the government, especially without the consent of Congress and the American people. It is national socialism masquerading as military security. This is why conservatives — those who are serious about defending our constitutional republic - should demand that the executive order be repealed immediately. Liberals argue that President Clinton issued a nearly identical mandate. President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the first national defense resources preparedness order, which has been amended by successive presidents, including George W. Bush. Hence, according to the progressive left, if it was good enough for FDR, Mr. Clinton and Mr. Bush, why not Mr. Obama? The answer is simple: Because the Constitution matters — or at least it should. For more than 70 years, liberal Democrats and corporatist Republicans have been slowly dismantling the old republic, imposing a creeping social democracy. The Founding Fathers’ vision of limited government and federalism has been replaced by a new ruling class. FDR, Mr. Clinton, Mr. Bush — all of them were militarists expanding the size and scope of government. They were Wilsonian globalists, and they shamelessly violated civil liberties. FDR was the worst, by forcing Japanese-Americans into internment camps. Mr. Obama’s executive order represents the culmination of the welfare-warfare state. He is walking in the footsteps of his predecessors, those who enabled the rise of the imperial presidency. And it leads to only one tragic end: the gradual deterioration of our democracy. http://times247.com/articles/kuhner-obama-authorizes-himself-to-declare-martial-law#ixzz1qCiTNgUS

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 03/26/12 12:13 AM
its not exactly something OBAMA can lay individual claim to The Defense Production Act (Pub.L. 81-774) is a United States law enacted on September 8, 1950, in response to the start of the Korean War. It was part of a broad civil defense and war mobilization effort in the context of the Cold War. Its implementing regulations, the Defense Priorities and Allocation System (DPAS), are located at 15 CFR §§700 to 700.93. The Act has been periodically reauthorized and amended, and remains in force as of 2012. The Act contains three major sections. The first authorizes the President to require businesses to sign contracts or fulfill orders deemed necessary for national defense. The second authorizes the President to establish mechanisms (such as regulations, orders or agencies) to allocate materials, services and facilities to promote national defense. The third section authorizes the President to control the civilian economy so that scarce and/or critical materials necessary to the national defense effort are available for defense needs.[1] The Act also authorizes the President to requisition property, force industry to expand production and the supply of basic resources, impose wage and price controls, settle labor disputes, control consumer and real estate credit, establish contractual priorities, and allocate raw materials to aid the national defense.[1] The President's authority to place contracts under the DPA is the part of the Act most often used by the Department of Defense (DOD) since the 1970s. Most of the other functions of the Act are administered by the Office of Strategic Industries and Economic Security (SIES) in the Bureau of Industry and Security in the Department of Commerce.[2] ..these policies have been in place under every president since 1950

YourBluntness69 Joined Sun 03/25/12 Posts: 6	Mon 03/26/12 12:22 AM
By the time they act on it, so many people will see the light it won't matter anymore, let them come, let us finish this so the world can finally act as one and take to the stars as we should.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 03/26/12 12:24 AM
By the time they act on it, so many people will see the light it won't matter anymore, let them come, let us finish this so the world can finally act as one and take to the stars as we should. so you think Collectivism is the answer to Statism?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 03/26/12 12:24 AM
By the time they act on it, so many people will see the light it won't matter anymore, let them come, let us finish this so the world can finally act as one and take to the stars as we should. you know that everything with a beginning must end,,,,, thats life I dont see the evidence to indicate that such actions are coming soon,, but then again 'soon' is subjective Im much more worried about things like poverty, the growing gap between the haves and have nots, the decreasing ability of our kids to compete globally with our educational system,,,,stuff like that that really is happening NOW,.,,,,

boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Mon 03/26/12 12:27 AM
By the time they act on it, so many people will see the light it won't matter anymore, let them come, let us finish this so the world can finally act as one and take to the stars as we should. you know that everything with a beginning must end,,,,, thats life I dont see the evidence to indicate that such actions are coming soon,, but then again 'soon' is subjective Im much more worried about things like poverty, the growing gap between the haves and have nots, the decreasing ability of our kids to compete globally with our educational system,,,,stuff like that that really is happening NOW,.,,,, That's the plan and they have been working on it for decades. Poverty/class warfare is a wedge that has been being driven between the two sides and it is working as you can see from this site.

InvictusV Joined Sun 11/23/08 Posts: 5282	Mon 03/26/12 03:46 AM
Generations of apathy and indifference to the erosion of civil liberties in the name of state security.. You would think it would be cheaper and wiser to take a look at why we need such draconian and unconstitutional actions to make the state safe. Stop being the fning world police is a start..

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 03/26/12 06:49 AM Edited by Optomistic69 on Mon 03/26/12 06:49 AM
It is national socialism masquerading as military security. Change is coming to America It is necessary It has nothing to do with Obama Those at the top of the pile are not liking it Those at the bottom will pay for it America is joining the real world New World Order World Social Democracy

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Mon 03/26/12 09:38 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others!

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 03/26/12 09:47 AM
its not exactly something OBAMA can lay individual claim to The Defense Production Act (Pub.L. 81-774) is a United States law enacted on September 8, 1950, in response to the start of the Korean War. It was part of a broad civil defense and war mobilization effort in the context of the Cold War. Its implementing regulations, the Defense Priorities and Allocation System (DPAS), are located at 15 CFR §§700 to 700.93. The Act has been periodically reauthorized and amended, and remains in force as of 2012. The Act contains three major sections. The first authorizes the President to require businesses to sign contracts or fulfill orders deemed necessary for national defense. The second authorizes the President to establish mechanisms (such as regulations, orders or agencies) to allocate materials, services and facilities to promote national defense. The third section authorizes the President to control the civilian economy so that scarce and/or critical materials necessary to the national defense effort are available for defense needs.[1] The Act also authorizes the President to requisition property, force industry to expand production and the supply of basic resources, impose wage and price controls, settle labor disputes, control consumer and real estate credit, establish contractual priorities, and allocate raw materials to aid the national defense.[1] The President's authority to place contracts under the DPA is the part of the Act most often used by the Department of Defense (DOD) since the 1970s. Most of the other functions of the Act are administered by the Office of Strategic Industries and Economic Security (SIES) in the Bureau of Industry and Security in the Department of Commerce.[2] ..these policies have been in place under every president since 1950 you guys always say something like this... since this has been in place since the 50's, then what was passed on the 16th? according to you, he just reaffirmed this? they wasted all that time just to write a bill that is already in place?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 03/26/12 09:52 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 03/26/12 09:54 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this? 'cause his Handlers and certain Supporters want it done!

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 03/26/12 09:57 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this? 'cause his Handlers and certain Supporters want it done! Who are Obamas Handlers?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 03/26/12 09:59 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this? 'cause his Handlers and certain Supporters want it done! Who are Obamas Handlers? Go ask George Soros,Owner of the Democrat Party!

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 03/26/12 10:01 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this? 'cause his Handlers and certain Supporters want it done! Who are Obamas Handlers? Go ask George Soros,Owner of the Democrat Party! And there was I thinking that the GOP were the Monied People

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 03/26/12 10:07 AM
So why does George Soros want martial law on the streets of America

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Mon 03/26/12 10:12 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this? 'cause his Handlers and certain Supporters want it done! Who are Obamas Handlers? Go ask George Soros,Owner of the Democrat Party! And there was I thinking that the GOP were the Monied People Demorepublicrats.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 03/26/12 10:17 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this? 'cause his Handlers and certain Supporters want it done! Who are Obamas Handlers? Go ask George Soros,Owner of the Democrat Party! And there was I thinking that the GOP were the Monied People well,you thunk wrong!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 03/26/12 10:18 AM
People who support OweBummer have no regard for the constitution or peoples rights he is so intent on destroying. OweBummers cabinet, presidency, and supporters, claim to be bleeding hearts, but the bleeding is done by others! If you are laying this at Obamas door why do you think he is doing this? 'cause his Handlers and certain Supporters want it done! Who are Obamas Handlers? Go ask George Soros,Owner of the Democrat Party! And there was I thinking that the GOP were the Monied People Demorepublicrats.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 03/26/12 10:26 AM Edited by Optomistic69 on Mon 03/26/12 10:26 AM
So why does George Soros want martial law on the streets of America