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Topic: Simply Cynical
Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 10:31 PM

A truly cynical approach, lessens hope, value, worth, to whatever is being talked about. Not sure i agree that the media are only negative most of the time. I do hate how they put all this added peer pressure on society, though. I may not be a teen anymore, but i always still feel a great amount of pressure to look "perfect". I don't think peer pressure only happens with teenagers anymore. It can feel just the same in adult life. Eek. Sorry for rambling on. lol. I do wish the world would cheer up at times. Instead people just walk places insulting each other.


Agreed.

I like your ramblings. :)

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 10:34 PM



..why is it so hard to accept that someone loves you..
..that someone can care to that depth for you..



May be because you don't love urself...!!

Am I right?

Though unbelievable,love is knocking ya door dude,accept it.May be it is coming that way to realize what life is...



Eh, this isn't directed at myself.
I'm not that cynical.

Jen tells me she loves me, I believe her.
I don't have walls up, nor expect her to live up to any falsely and unspecified expectations..

Oddly, however, I don't love myself..
..but have the exact opposite mind frame.

Hmm..

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 10:39 PM

It's okay to take a breath once in a while. I'm not cynical in my relationships. If they say they love me, then I'm sure they love me. Why lie about it? For what? Secs? Money?

I feel you got recently hurt after admitting you loved someone, but you can RARELY read into the other's motives, no matter how well you think you know them. Some people may seem predictable until them do something wholly unexpected of them.


Secs? Hehe.

As for being hurt.. Yes.
But, not in the way you specified.

I'm just trying to grasp what's the cause.

Why is it far easier to say, "bullchit"
..instead of saying, "I believe you."

Each, of course, circumstance is different.
This particular occasion is no one but my owns fault.
Tangled with some miscommunication, we'll say.

For example.

Ever been told, "You look like a player".
Despite you saying, "No, I'm really not."
It's easier to mentally assess that they are lying, and your premonition is spot on.

You can even tack on:

"No, I'm really not. I'm far too shy."

Despite your personal experience in actually witnessing/knowing (s)he is in fact shy, you still have that negative mind frame, (s)he is a player..

Obviously, not you.. but common place.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 10:41 PM

I take life and people as is......
and although I'm from Illinois.....
I take a Missouri approach to it all.....

SHOW ME!!!!!

Actions speak louder than words.
People can say whatever they like....but I watch their actions, body language.
If it don't line up with the words.....

GONE!!!!

its simple really.....
don't sweat the small stuff......and make it bigger than it is.

Ya gotta relax, go with the flow and let it grow.
If the actions line up as ya go....Ya got it made.
If the actions don't line up with the words....
Walk away.

JMO


But what if they do, for idk pick a time frame.
One that "suits" you to leave said "comfort" zone.
Then, they slip up..
(Nothing overly drastic like infidelity)

..then what?

no photo
Sun 03/25/12 08:41 AM


I take life and people as is......
and although I'm from Illinois.....
I take a Missouri approach to it all.....

SHOW ME!!!!!

Actions speak louder than words.
People can say whatever they like....but I watch their actions, body language.
If it don't line up with the words.....

GONE!!!!

its simple really.....
don't sweat the small stuff......and make it bigger than it is.

Ya gotta relax, go with the flow and let it grow.
If the actions line up as ya go....Ya got it made.
If the actions don't line up with the words....
Walk away.

JMO


But what if they do, for idk pick a time frame.
One that "suits" you to leave said "comfort" zone.
Then, they slip up..
(Nothing overly drastic like infidelity)

..then what?


If..........
as you get to know someone.....
and their actions line up with the words that are coming outta their mouth......
REMEMBER..........
we are Human........
we slip up.....
we say stupid things without thinkin first...
We do stupid chit......
If the slip up ain't a "deal breaker".....
forgive it and move FORWARD!!!!

best answer I got Dude!!!

Bravalady's photo
Sun 03/25/12 11:41 AM
I am not actually convinced that most people are cynical. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe people who talk about relationships on line are more cynical than those who don't. I don't know. I just have the feeling that it's more fifty-fifty, if you looked at the big picture.

A lot of people get hurt by love sooner or later--I suppose most do. Then they try to protect themselves because that pain was so awful. But as Ghostrider pointed out, you've got to look at the actions and no just go by the words. Sometimes the negative talk may just be a way of blowing off steam, getting it out of your system so you can move on.

I read a while back that humans tend to focus on the negative more than the positive because it helps protect them from danger. Kind of like once burned, twice shy. It's just that we're so good at generalizing, we get carried away and apply it to everything. We also forget that we can change our behavior so that the negative outcomes are less likely.

HasidicEnforcer's photo
Sun 03/25/12 09:40 PM


Obviously, not you.. but common place.


Obviously not me what?

jaded72's photo
Sun 03/25/12 09:43 PM
Everyone has different defence mechanisms; some laugh bad experiences off and others internalize them and put up armour. I prefer the optimistic route, myself. It's much easier to have a smile on my face, than a frown. Then people like hanging out with me more, which means more friends and then less stress for me. I've tried being cynical, too, and I have my moments, but in the end I feel awful and bringing the energy down is not a good time.

If I treat everyone at face value, and look at their actions, I can usually get a pretty good sense of where they are coming from. Act in good faith, until otherwise indicated.

Cheers!

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Wed 03/28/12 01:19 PM



Obviously, not you.. but common place.


Obviously not me what?


..you said you don't have a "negative mind frame".
Therefore, the example excludes you?

no photo
Wed 03/28/12 01:41 PM
Cynicism -- done properly -- is art.


no photo
Wed 03/28/12 01:56 PM
I don't have the patience to deal with those who are very cynical. They tend to be very negative about most things. And I don't believe it's easier to be cynical than optimistic.

Bravalady's photo
Thu 03/29/12 10:32 PM

I don't have the patience to deal with those who are very cynical. They tend to be very negative about most things. And I don't believe it's easier to be cynical than optimistic.


Interesting point (just as easy to be positive).

One thing that's always mystified me is why it's "cool" to be cynical.

Monier's photo
Thu 03/29/12 10:39 PM
It's less fun to be a realist. I'd rather be ignorant.

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