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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? Racist. IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black it existed on both sides of the coin Nope, according to some know it all here only whites can be racist! |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sun 03/18/12 04:51 AM
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? Racist. IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black it existed on both sides of the coin Nope, according to some know it all here only whites can be racist! Boy could I tell Tales!  Racism is a Disease that doesn't respect Color or Ethnicity! ______________ Racism Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors. Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men. Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html |
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Wow got to love the race cards they pull right? Someone doesn't like Obama so it has to be because he is black. It can't be because they don't like democrats or they just don't like his policies or one of an infinite other reasons.
I swear its like being back in Junior high. You have some snacks or something and a black kid you don't know approaches you and your friends and asks for some. As you tell them know they say "its because I am black!". Umm. no its because I don't know you and I am a kid with very little money so the snacks I buy are for me. |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? Racist. IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black it existed on both sides of the coin Nope, according to some know it all here only whites can be racist! Boy could I tell Tales! Racism is a Disease that doesn't respect Color or Ethnicity! ______________ Racism Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors. Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men. Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html LOL go to Asia and tell me there is no racism. Buildings actually advertise no foreigners allowed. It is totally legal to deny someone service based on race. |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? Racist. IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black it existed on both sides of the coin Nope, according to some know it all here only whites can be racist! Boy could I tell Tales! Racism is a Disease that doesn't respect Color or Ethnicity! ______________ Racism Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors. Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men. Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html LOL go to Asia and tell me there is no racism. Buildings actually advertise no foreigners allowed. It is totally legal to deny someone service based on race. doesnt 'foreigner' imply a non citizen or nationality? people exchange race with nationality alot, Asia is a very homogenous nation in terms of race (ie. mostly ASIANS,which we consider a race here in the US), so I guess in their example other nationalities would pretty much also be other races,, I think when we speak about it in the context of american history, we are speaking about race in terms of ancestral identity and not nationality though,,,, |
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massagetrade
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? Racist. IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black it existed on both sides of the coin Nope, according to some know it all here only whites can be racist! Boy could I tell Tales! Racism is a Disease that doesn't respect Color or Ethnicity! ______________ Racism Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors. Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men. Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html LOL go to Asia and tell me there is no racism. Buildings actually advertise no foreigners allowed. It is totally legal to deny someone service based on race. doesnt 'foreigner' imply a non citizen or nationality? people exchange race with nationality alot, Asia is a very homogenous nation in terms of race (ie. mostly ASIANS,which we consider a race here in the US), so I guess in their example other nationalities would pretty much also be other races,, I think when we speak about it in the context of american history, we are speaking about race in terms of ancestral identity and not nationality though,,,, People use 'race' in poorly thought out, confusing, and misleading ways all the time. Racism blurs with culturism, nationalism, and more. Regarding asians, though: asia is not homogeneous!!! Racial delineations can be be drawn at any level, and its the cultural significance of the delineation which matters - nothing else. America is such a melting pot, we forget this. Most whites in the US are european mutts, most blacks are a mix of many african tribes. But 500 years ago, hatred between rivaling clans or kingdoms of europeans was often racial. Everyone was white, but they still recognized distinct races. Its the same with asia today. they might all be 'asian', but many are very aware of themselves as belong to dozens of distinct races. |
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I think when we speak about it in the context of american history, we are speaking about race in terms of ancestral identity and not nationality though,,,,
in terms of american history/definition,, race has very specific boxes to 'check' and most americans still do,,,,,, |
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I think when we speak about it in the context of american history, we are speaking about race in terms of ancestral identity and not nationality though,,,, in terms of american history/definition,, race has very specific boxes to 'check' and most americans still do,,,,,, i always check "prefer not to answer"... being white in this country is a drawback now... |
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I think when we speak about it in the context of american history, we are speaking about race in terms of ancestral identity and not nationality though,,,, in terms of american history/definition,, race has very specific boxes to 'check' and most americans still do,,,,,, i always check "prefer not to answer"... being white in this country is a drawback now... haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa well, its your right to not choose a box (but people still know and treat us accordingly) |
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I think when we speak about it in the context of american history, we are speaking about race in terms of ancestral identity and not nationality though,,,, True. We've blended ourselves into no longer seeing the irish people as a different race than the english people. Hmmm...I don't mean to confuse nationality with race - nationalities change with political changes. Very often nationality aligns with race because the same geographic (seas, mountains, deserts) and cultural factors shaped both the nations boundaries and the region occupied by that 'race'. |
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Wow got to love the race cards they pull right? Someone doesn't like Obama so it has to be because he is black. It can't be because they don't like democrats or they just don't like his policies or one of an infinite other reasons. I swear its like being back in Junior high. You have some snacks or something and a black kid you don't know approaches you and your friends and asks for some. As you tell them know they say "its because I am black!". Umm. no its because I don't know you and I am a kid with very little money so the snacks I buy are for me. racism, sexism,nationalism are real they are hard to address and aknowledge sometimes but they are much more than just 'cards' |
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Wow got to love the race cards they pull right? Someone doesn't like Obama so it has to be because he is black. It can't be because they don't like democrats or they just don't like his policies or one of an infinite other reasons. I swear its like being back in Junior high. You have some snacks or something and a black kid you don't know approaches you and your friends and asks for some. As you tell them know they say "its because I am black!". Umm. no its because I don't know you and I am a kid with very little money so the snacks I buy are for me. racism, sexism,nationalism are real they are hard to address and aknowledge sometimes but they are much more than just 'cards' so it is just easier just to scream "RACIST" and be done with it, especially when they disagree with the MIC.... |
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Wow got to love the race cards they pull right? Someone doesn't like Obama so it has to be because he is black. It can't be because they don't like democrats or they just don't like his policies or one of an infinite other reasons. I swear its like being back in Junior high. You have some snacks or something and a black kid you don't know approaches you and your friends and asks for some. As you tell them know they say "its because I am black!". Umm. no its because I don't know you and I am a kid with very little money so the snacks I buy are for me. racism, sexism,nationalism are real they are hard to address and aknowledge sometimes but they are much more than just 'cards' so it is just easier just to scream "RACIST" and be done with it, especially when they disagree with the MIC.... sometimes that happens too like people just calling welfare recipients lazy and being done with it there are usually more complex issues at hand,but racism can be one of the complex SOCIAL issues that tie into political choices,,,, |
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Wow got to love the race cards they pull right? Someone doesn't like Obama so it has to be because he is black. It can't be because they don't like democrats or they just don't like his policies or one of an infinite other reasons. I swear its like being back in Junior high. You have some snacks or something and a black kid you don't know approaches you and your friends and asks for some. As you tell them know they say "its because I am black!". Umm. no its because I don't know you and I am a kid with very little money so the snacks I buy are for me. racism, sexism,nationalism are real they are hard to address and aknowledge sometimes but they are much more than just 'cards' so it is just easier just to scream "RACIST" and be done with it, especially when they disagree with the MIC.... sometimes that happens too like people just calling welfare recipients lazy and being done with it there are usually more complex issues at hand,but racism can be one of the complex SOCIAL issues that tie into political choices,,,, but i haven't heard any liberal say maybe he doesn't like obama's policies, or the chinese influx of crap barry crams into the US, they just say he's racist... |
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but i haven't heard any liberal say maybe he doesn't like obama's policies, or the chinese influx of crap barry crams into the US, they just say he's racist... I know a lot of liberals that are more fair-minded that this. Maybe you'd benefit from making friends with more liberals? |
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Wow got to love the race cards they pull right? Someone doesn't like Obama so it has to be because he is black. It can't be because they don't like democrats or they just don't like his policies or one of an infinite other reasons. I swear its like being back in Junior high. You have some snacks or something and a black kid you don't know approaches you and your friends and asks for some. As you tell them know they say "its because I am black!". Umm. no its because I don't know you and I am a kid with very little money so the snacks I buy are for me. racism, sexism,nationalism are real they are hard to address and aknowledge sometimes but they are much more than just 'cards' so it is just easier just to scream "RACIST" and be done with it, especially when they disagree with the MIC.... sometimes that happens too like people just calling welfare recipients lazy and being done with it there are usually more complex issues at hand,but racism can be one of the complex SOCIAL issues that tie into political choices,,,, but i haven't heard any liberal say maybe he doesn't like obama's policies, or the chinese influx of crap barry crams into the US, they just say he's racist... I never know if Im perceived as liberal or conservative, but I have posted before that people sometimes dont like his policies. Question arises when they have personal resentment against the MAN(as opposed to his policies) and they justify it with policies that other presidents before him followed as well (without earning equivalent hatred for it). |
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but i haven't heard any liberal say maybe he doesn't like obama's policies, or the chinese influx of crap barry crams into the US, they just say he's racist... I know a lot of liberals that are more fair-minded that this. Maybe you'd benefit from making friends with more liberals? but i haven't heard any liberal say maybe that he (the home depot dude) doesn't like obama's policies, or the chinese influx of crap barry crams into the US, they just say he's (the home depot dude) racist... |
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but i haven't heard any liberal say maybe he doesn't like obama's policies, or the chinese influx of crap barry crams into the US, they just say he's racist... I know a lot of liberals that are more fair-minded that this. Maybe you'd benefit from making friends with more liberals? but i haven't heard any liberal say maybe that he (the home depot dude) doesn't like obama's policies, or the chinese influx of crap barry crams into the US, they just say he's (the home depot dude) racist... I take your second phrasing the same way I took the first one - it sounds like you are saying that all the liberals you've heard comment on this issue have been very narrow in their viewpoint. They only look at the race issue, and they don't allow that he might have good, honest, non-racially-motivated criticisms. I know there are liberals out there like that, and that they might be the most outspoken liberals, but I don't think they reflect the feelings of 'liberals in general'. I feel this way because of the intelligent and fair-minded liberals that I know. |
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