I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history.

So what does that make them?

A US Citizen,,lol

prior to now, voters commonly didnt know what the candidate 'stood for' and voted on their looks, their image, their perceived personal virtue,,etc,,,,

problem is

in AMericas founding and history, race is so deeply intertwined with social and political status, that racism 'could' always be an underlying issue to opinions and actions,,,,


some seem more obvious and some are covert, but its a toss up, a hard thing to discuss, and an even harder thing to aknowledge and face,,,

in AMericas founding and history, race is so deeply intertwined with social and political status, that racism 'could' always be an underlying issue to opinions and actions

Interesting

I agree

did you order Bell's book?

unfortunately, Im having other financial priorities, but its on my list of stuff to do,,

that is unfortunate.. I believe it will open your eyes..

prior to now? how did the bushes get elected then? i think you meant "as of now", beginning with obamma. a black man that speaks good...and in an election where just about anyone that was democrat coulda won.

seriously?

Bush got elected with money and 'family values' speech

that was his 'image' , and what put him in front, just as much if not more than what he actually 'stood for' politically


and OBama is a black man who speaks WELL,,,,as was Jesse Jackson , shirley chisholm, and Alan Keyes,,,,who didnt even get the nomination

so I guess, if we overlook the need to win the nomination, we can believe that Obama won 'just because' he is black

but if we take into consideration the significance of being nominated in the first place , we have to consider it was more than his color that won him the race,,,,

it was because he is a black muslim that speaks well. you know as well as i do that any democrat was going to win that election, no matter what color. the powers behind the presidency decided thats who they wanted, not the american people.

thats a contradictory statement

was it because he was a black 'muslim' who speaks well

OR

was it merely because ANY democrat was going to win?

you lost me there... you saying doesn't speak well?

nope IM saying if any democrat could have won than the reason for him winning would merely be he was the democrat of choice

if he won because of race or speaking ability, than another democrate without those qualities may not have won, meaning merely being a democrat couldnt be the reason for winning,,,

so admit this? his policies had not much to do with it? i can't even remember any other dems that was trying to be president then...
democrats were going to win, him being black and muslim and a good speaker was what the powers that be wanted...

I Cant speak for everyone. I think the reasons for this President being elected were consistently as diverse as they have ever been. Some voted based on his policy, some on his image, some on his background,,,etc,,,

Hilary Clinton ran for the election too, and it was assumed a large percentage of women would vote for her

When Bush ran the first time, it was assumed a large portion of the bible belt would vote for him, others voted cause they just didnt like Gore

IMAGE has played a huge factor in americas choices since the television was invented and even moreso now with technology spoiling us to a constant connection with everyone elses most personal business...

at the time, i liked gore better, but then he turned into a joke, just like kerry did... actually, kerry was always a joke...

I liked Gore better too,, but he was too 'boring' for the voting public,,,,

Racist.

IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black
and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black

it existed on both sides of the coin