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Dragoness said... "It will get over turned because they aleady verify you are a registered voter when you walk in to the voter booth. So it isn't needed." -------------------------- The bank verifies that I am a registered account holder EVERY time I use the account. I want them to ask for my ID when I step to the booth. It means the next person in the door also has the right to vote. If you got here by breaking my laws... I sure don't want you voteing for anything... As long as the states are asking for a State ID and not a Federal one the Feds have no business interferring. It is a 'reserving' by the state for its people and so exempt from federal interference. its called the 10th. States Rights. I think it DOES vary by state. But more and more states have bought into the most recent fear tactics and began to switch from no id requirement to a mandate. |
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Dragoness said... "It will get over turned because they aleady verify you are a registered voter when you walk in to the voter booth. So it isn't needed." -------------------------- The bank verifies that I am a registered account holder EVERY time I use the account. I want them to ask for my ID when I step to the booth. It means the next person in the door also has the right to vote. If you got here by breaking my laws... I sure don't want you voteing for anything... As long as the states are asking for a State ID and not a Federal one the Feds have no business interferring. It is a 'reserving' by the state for its people and so exempt from federal interference. its called the 10th. States Rights. I think it DOES vary by state. But more and more states have bought into the most recent fear tactics and began to switch from no id requirement to a mandate. How is it fear tactics when all they are doing is requiring you to prove who you are? Sure it my not put an end to voter fraud, but it will stop some of it. And if you think there is no voter fraud think again. Like I have said before, if there is 1 case of voter fraud that take away 1 legitimate vote. And that 1 persons rights had been infringed upon. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/15/12 08:36 AM
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Dragoness said... "It will get over turned because they aleady verify you are a registered voter when you walk in to the voter booth. So it isn't needed." -------------------------- The bank verifies that I am a registered account holder EVERY time I use the account. I want them to ask for my ID when I step to the booth. It means the next person in the door also has the right to vote. If you got here by breaking my laws... I sure don't want you voteing for anything... As long as the states are asking for a State ID and not a Federal one the Feds have no business interferring. It is a 'reserving' by the state for its people and so exempt from federal interference. its called the 10th. States Rights. I think it DOES vary by state. But more and more states have bought into the most recent fear tactics and began to switch from no id requirement to a mandate. How is it fear tactics when all they are doing is requiring you to prove who you are? Sure it my not put an end to voter fraud, but it will stop some of it. And if you think there is no voter fraud think again. Like I have said before, if there is 1 case of voter fraud that take away 1 legitimate vote. And that 1 persons rights had been infringed upon. I consider it fear tactics because the elevated alarm doesnt correlate with any actual FACTS indicating that voter fraud is anymore serious a problem now than it ever was or that ids will solve or even diminish said problem.... its just more of the usual "'those folks' are trying to attack american values,,,,," sensationalism used every election cycle to invoke people and distract them from real issues,,,in my opinion and its kind of sad,,, |
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Dragoness said... "It will get over turned because they aleady verify you are a registered voter when you walk in to the voter booth. So it isn't needed." -------------------------- The bank verifies that I am a registered account holder EVERY time I use the account. I want them to ask for my ID when I step to the booth. It means the next person in the door also has the right to vote. If you got here by breaking my laws... I sure don't want you voteing for anything... As long as the states are asking for a State ID and not a Federal one the Feds have no business interferring. It is a 'reserving' by the state for its people and so exempt from federal interference. its called the 10th. States Rights. I think it DOES vary by state. But more and more states have bought into the most recent fear tactics and began to switch from no id requirement to a mandate. There is another way to look at it (than buying the fear). There ARE more criminal entrants into the US than were in the past... so states that did not need to worry about them are now 'adjusting' to the numbers. Not fear... rather a facing of reality. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/15/12 08:49 AM
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Dragoness said... "It will get over turned because they aleady verify you are a registered voter when you walk in to the voter booth. So it isn't needed." -------------------------- The bank verifies that I am a registered account holder EVERY time I use the account. I want them to ask for my ID when I step to the booth. It means the next person in the door also has the right to vote. If you got here by breaking my laws... I sure don't want you voteing for anything... As long as the states are asking for a State ID and not a Federal one the Feds have no business interferring. It is a 'reserving' by the state for its people and so exempt from federal interference. its called the 10th. States Rights. I think it DOES vary by state. But more and more states have bought into the most recent fear tactics and began to switch from no id requirement to a mandate. There is another way to look at it (than buying the fear). There ARE more criminal entrants into the US than were in the past... so states that did not need to worry about them are now 'adjusting' to the numbers. Not fear... rather a facing of reality. where can I find information on this rising number of 'criminal entrants'? (actual documented numbers, not commentaries or opinion pieces) |
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Dragoness said... "It will get over turned because they aleady verify you are a registered voter when you walk in to the voter booth. So it isn't needed." -------------------------- The bank verifies that I am a registered account holder EVERY time I use the account. I want them to ask for my ID when I step to the booth. It means the next person in the door also has the right to vote. If you got here by breaking my laws... I sure don't want you voteing for anything... As long as the states are asking for a State ID and not a Federal one the Feds have no business interferring. It is a 'reserving' by the state for its people and so exempt from federal interference. its called the 10th. States Rights. I think it DOES vary by state. But more and more states have bought into the most recent fear tactics and began to switch from no id requirement to a mandate. How is it fear tactics when all they are doing is requiring you to prove who you are? Sure it my not put an end to voter fraud, but it will stop some of it. And if you think there is no voter fraud think again. Like I have said before, if there is 1 case of voter fraud that take away 1 legitimate vote. And that 1 persons rights had been infringed upon. I consider it fear tactics because the elevated alarm doesnt correlate with any actual FACTS indicating that voter fraud is anymore serious a problem now than it ever was or that ids will solve or even diminish said problem.... its just more of the usual "'those folks' are trying to attack american values,,,,," sensationalism used every election cycle to invoke people and distract them from real issues,,,in my opinion and its kind of sad,,, So if it will solvenothing and it's not a big enough issue to worry about then why is the DOJ getting involved and trying to stop states from passing voter ID laws? And don't give me the line that it disenfranchises certain ethnic groups because there is no proof of that either. |
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Dragoness said... "It will get over turned because they aleady verify you are a registered voter when you walk in to the voter booth. So it isn't needed." -------------------------- The bank verifies that I am a registered account holder EVERY time I use the account. I want them to ask for my ID when I step to the booth. It means the next person in the door also has the right to vote. If you got here by breaking my laws... I sure don't want you voteing for anything... As long as the states are asking for a State ID and not a Federal one the Feds have no business interferring. It is a 'reserving' by the state for its people and so exempt from federal interference. its called the 10th. States Rights. I think it DOES vary by state. But more and more states have bought into the most recent fear tactics and began to switch from no id requirement to a mandate. How is it fear tactics when all they are doing is requiring you to prove who you are? Sure it my not put an end to voter fraud, but it will stop some of it. And if you think there is no voter fraud think again. Like I have said before, if there is 1 case of voter fraud that take away 1 legitimate vote. And that 1 persons rights had been infringed upon. I consider it fear tactics because the elevated alarm doesnt correlate with any actual FACTS indicating that voter fraud is anymore serious a problem now than it ever was or that ids will solve or even diminish said problem.... its just more of the usual "'those folks' are trying to attack american values,,,,," sensationalism used every election cycle to invoke people and distract them from real issues,,,in my opinion and its kind of sad,,, So if it will solvenothing and it's not a big enough issue to worry about then why is the DOJ getting involved and trying to stop states from passing voter ID laws? And don't give me the line that it disenfranchises certain ethnic groups because there is no proof of that either. maybe to disrupt the effects of the fear being sold,,,,, first mandatory id at voting booths,, next mandatory id at all times? fear can grow into an ugly monster if left unchecked.... |
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You can't put the ugly monster of fear on this.
Should I not be concerned that my vote won't count because someone has fraudulently voted? |
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JUST MORE BS FROM THE MAKERS OF THE REAL ID ACT
THE STATE OF PA HAS BEEN USING BIOMETRICS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS THEY HAVE WHITE GOVERNMENT CAMERAS EVERYWHERE HERE I SEEM TO BE THE ONLY ONE HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM sorry if i was shouting lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHKEMHATE2g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJqLXvS6Kk8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doPVVDx0MME&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naNOmzgGA3c&feature=related |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/15/12 12:20 PM
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You can't put the ugly monster of fear on this. Should I not be concerned that my vote won't count because someone has fraudulently voted? if you have 'always' been concerned, that seems reasonable if you suddenly have 'elevated' concern in THIS election cycle, its unreasonable as the situation has not elevated in any way,,,, of all the things to be concerned with though, its probably low on the list when you consider that voter fruad is a crime that is prosecutable by law already and voter fraud happens just as easily with or without the id because fake ids are simple to come by too,,,, |
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It doesn't matter what election cycle I've become concerned with it.
Obviously the states passing the laws are concerned enough with it to pass the law. It's when the DOJ thinks its any of their business that would make me think why is this administration worried about it. |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote.
someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? No, they just want the power any way they can get it. |
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The last I heard there are twenty four on going voter fraud investigations all of them democratic senators
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Don't really know what difference it makes since illigal aliens show less information to get an ID than a citizen does anyways.......so why the fuss???? Oh right the dead people might not get to vote, I forgot.....
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? that is against the law... your id is supposed to show where you live.. |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? that is against the law... your id is supposed to show where you live.. what is against the law? having an id you paid for that doesnt display your current id? I doubt it. it makes sense to update it if you will be needing an ID for something, but its not illegal to have moved and not updated an id it just excludes you from being able to present it as ID anymore,,,, |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? that is against the law... your id is supposed to show where you live.. what is against the law? having an id you paid for that doesnt display your current id? I doubt it. it makes sense to update it if you will be needing an ID for something, but its not illegal to have moved and not updated an id it just excludes you from being able to present it as ID anymore,,,, yes it is.... i know people that have gotten tickets for it...look it up |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? that is against the law... your id is supposed to show where you live.. what is against the law? having an id you paid for that doesnt display your current id? I doubt it. it makes sense to update it if you will be needing an ID for something, but its not illegal to have moved and not updated an id it just excludes you from being able to present it as ID anymore,,,, yes it is.... i know people that have gotten tickets for it...look it up you get a ticket for driving without a valid id,, not for HAVING an invalid one,,, |
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