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i just like to smoke it... no crutch, no being better when high, just a nice high... Can't. Gives me splitting headaches and I don't like beer! i like beer too |
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i just like to smoke it... no crutch, no being better when high, just a nice high... Can't. Gives me splitting headaches and I don't like beer! i like beer too Beer and Weed? Crazy azz mutha f!cker....... 
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i just like to smoke it... no crutch, no being better when high, just a nice high... Can't. Gives me splitting headaches and I don't like beer! i like beer too Beer and Weed? Crazy azz mutha f!cker....... Kinda like pissin in the wind |
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i just like to smoke it... no crutch, no being better when high, just a nice high... Can't. Gives me splitting headaches and I don't like beer! i like beer too Beer and Weed? Crazy azz mutha f!cker....... Kinda like pissin in the wind i like pissing too... but not upwind... |
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Honestly no i don't think weed is the answer unless your Cheech and Chong lollll all jokes aside i saw to many buddys go wrong way in life and some lost their lifes if you never tried it and your happy no need to sometimes 1 thing can leed to other things my self i don't do it :)
  
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Honestly no i don't think weed is the answer unless your Cheech and Chong lollll all jokes aside i saw to many buddys go wrong way in life and some lost their lifes if you never tried it and your happy no need to sometimes 1 thing can leed to other things my self i don't do it :) it effects different people in different ways... some people should never smoke it... i guess i am lucky it hasn't had any adverse affects in my life. but i have seen way more people go down because of other things, including alcohol, crack, cocaine and pharmaceuticals... |
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I don't think drugs made me more creative or anything, I believe we all have those abilities stored in our mind, drugs may give us access to those parts of our mind sometimes, but they do not contain those attributes, we do. see, this is the thing. i feel that if i can smoke something to let me access this amazing part that i can't access right now it'll be worth it, no? i don't believe it'll kill brain cells and destroy my life. i'm pretty good at doing that without any assistance! |
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PacificStar48
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Seen this debate rage on for decades.
What convinced me early on that pot was a bad move is just watching the people who one use it and two sell it. Come on that later should be enough of a reason all on it's own. You really want to chance your freedom on some low level numb nuts so desperate to make less than minimum wage peddling pot keeping their mouth shut if someone wants to squeeze them by said jewels? Or the pricks a little further up the food chain that carry guns and are twitchier than a hyperactive two year old? You may not have much but what you have these people are more than glad to take away from you if they need it. Do I know that pot use crosses most socio-economic boundries, about all career fields, and pretty much all age groupes now; yup. Heck something more available than mosquitoes at a picnic that gets so much free advertiseing is kind of hard to not have pretty wide exposure. But so does the flu do you really want to invite that? Do I know that most people can function under the most stressful situations regardless of what crap they put in their body to try to change it's chemistry; yup. But how much attention do you really pay tot he productivity of your friends and ackquaintensces to know how much "damage" pot is doing to them. I mean you read a few food lables and pot's chemistry make up starts sounding pretty simple. Myabe because nost so called "knowledgeable ' users know just enough to be able to front a good rap. Especially if you don't know a heck of a lot about the nervous system, brain chemisty, and how miserable life can get if it really decides to take even a minora left turn. Ignoreing all the crap that goes along with flushing anything through your teeth mouth, throat and lungs seems stupid enough but for some that really doesn't set home until you fight for your breath a few times and you have to hock your car to get dentures. . That some people's body/mind can tolerate the monkeying around and seemingly get off scott free? Yea; Occassionally. But think back about the majority of stonners you know. How much serious assets do they have or are they living in their grandma's house? How many of them have serial histories of failed relationships? Stalled out careers. How many are begging for SSI benifits because of chronic health issues from chronic bronchitis, COPD, PTSD, screwed up whoulders and backs from hump jobs, or cancer? How many of them have totalled a car or two? How many have kids in foster care or jail and grandkids in special education. Do you know the stats for early onset HepC, Kidney failure, Liver failure, Alzheimer's, Tardi diskenesia, Parkinson's, and a host of neurological and autoimmune problems that also track with early tobacco, alcohol, and pot use? (Completely over look all the chemical crap that drug sellars will lace pot with to get that little extra buss or signature brand and what it does if you like but I worked in a college work study lab "testing" pot and the "contaminated" rate was almost 98%. Have you asked yourself how many stoners you know are motivated enough to actually grow their own on the sam par as they consume. Talk to the nurse aids you know, spend a little time im property management, or skilled nurseing facility staff, jails, or shelters, or social work and see what they tell you. Most of your "frequent flyers" can give you plenty of convinceing arguements that it is ok but the fact remains they are there and pot is one of the factors in their life.. Will pot make you more social? Creative? Yea for as long as you can come up with the money for the pot, booze, and munchies to make the party fun. Heck everybody love the latest new host of the party and they will totally convince you whatever bullship arts and crafts you can make are the prettiest thing they have ever seen but it doesn't make it necessarily great art or commercially valuable. |
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I don't think drugs made me more creative or anything, I believe we all have those abilities stored in our mind, drugs may give us access to those parts of our mind sometimes, but they do not contain those attributes, we do. see, this is the thing. i feel that if i can smoke something to let me access this amazing part that i can't access right now it'll be worth it, no? i don't believe it'll kill brain cells and destroy my life. i'm pretty good at doing that without any assistance! Just chill out with your brother. It's not going to make you a genious either......
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You really want to chance your freedom on some low level numb nuts so desperate to make less than minimum wage peddling pot My weedman is $ballin$. Again - Total crap.  |
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I don't think drugs made me more creative or anything, I believe we all have those abilities stored in our mind, drugs may give us access to those parts of our mind sometimes, but they do not contain those attributes, we do. see, this is the thing. i feel that if i can smoke something to let me access this amazing part that i can't access right now it'll be worth it, no? i don't believe it'll kill brain cells and destroy my life. i'm pretty good at doing that without any assistance! B, there's better ways to access more of your stored creativity, trust me. Giving my personal experience with drugs, and our mental similarities as far as I've learned from you on the forums, I don't think you would enjoy weed as much as you may think. In fact, you may actually grow to dislike it, as I have. My dislike is due to my own personal experiences, and how it effects me. I could be wrong though. I'm of course not trying to encourage you to try it, since it's illegal, but I'm also not one who's known for just saying no either. I'm just saying everyone has their own views and preferences. I know you want to increase your creativity, but what is it you're really seeking? I'm sensing there's something more you're seeking to accomplish. |
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A few of my offline buddies smoke it. Some for medical purposes, others just want to. I'm cool with it. I won't like the person any less.
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I certainly don't want B to do it cuz someone told her to. It is her decision whether to chance being busted, whether it works for her or whatever she is seeking.
It is not the answer to anything. Nothing is ever that easy. |
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I certainly don't want B to do it cuz someone told her to. It is her decision whether to chance being busted, whether it works for her or whatever she is seeking. It is not the answer to anything. Nothing is ever that easy. I agree. Actually, i feel like if i say anything against it i'd get stomped on/bitched about (by society in general) for not being rebellious enough. But why should that matter anyway? It's her life, but at the same time, i'd hate to think i had suggested it was a good idea, incase she couldn't get herself out of it. |
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Seen this debate rage on for decades. What convinced me early on that pot was a bad move is just watching the people who one use it and two sell it. Come on that later should be enough of a reason all on it's own. You really want to chance your freedom on some low level numb nuts so desperate to make less than minimum wage peddling pot keeping their mouth shut if someone wants to squeeze them by said jewels? Or the pricks a little further up the food chain that carry guns and are twitchier than a hyperactive two year old? You may not have much but what you have these people are more than glad to take away from you if they need it. Do I know that pot use crosses most socio-economic boundries, about all career fields, and pretty much all age groupes now; yup. Heck something more available than mosquitoes at a picnic that gets so much free advertiseing is kind of hard to not have pretty wide exposure. But so does the flu do you really want to invite that? Do I know that most people can function under the most stressful situations regardless of what crap they put in their body to try to change it's chemistry; yup. But how much attention do you really pay tot he productivity of your friends and ackquaintensces to know how much "damage" pot is doing to them. I mean you read a few food lables and pot's chemistry make up starts sounding pretty simple. Myabe because nost so called "knowledgeable ' users know just enough to be able to front a good rap. Especially if you don't know a heck of a lot about the nervous system, brain chemisty, and how miserable life can get if it really decides to take even a minora left turn. Ignoreing all the crap that goes along with flushing anything through your teeth mouth, throat and lungs seems stupid enough but for some that really doesn't set home until you fight for your breath a few times and you have to hock your car to get dentures. . That some people's body/mind can tolerate the monkeying around and seemingly get off scott free? Yea; Occassionally. But think back about the majority of stonners you know. How much serious assets do they have or are they living in their grandma's house? How many of them have serial histories of failed relationships? Stalled out careers. How many are begging for SSI benifits because of chronic health issues from chronic bronchitis, COPD, PTSD, screwed up whoulders and backs from hump jobs, or cancer? How many of them have totalled a car or two? How many have kids in foster care or jail and grandkids in special education. Do you know the stats for early onset HepC, Kidney failure, Liver failure, Alzheimer's, Tardi diskenesia, Parkinson's, and a host of neurological and autoimmune problems that also track with early tobacco, alcohol, and pot use? (Completely over look all the chemical crap that drug sellars will lace pot with to get that little extra buss or signature brand and what it does if you like but I worked in a college work study lab "testing" pot and the "contaminated" rate was almost 98%. Have you asked yourself how many stoners you know are motivated enough to actually grow their own on the sam par as they consume. Talk to the nurse aids you know, spend a little time im property management, or skilled nurseing facility staff, jails, or shelters, or social work and see what they tell you. Most of your "frequent flyers" can give you plenty of convinceing arguements that it is ok but the fact remains they are there and pot is one of the factors in their life.. Will pot make you more social? Creative? Yea for as long as you can come up with the money for the pot, booze, and munchies to make the party fun. Heck everybody love the latest new host of the party and they will totally convince you whatever bullship arts and crafts you can make are the prettiest thing they have ever seen but it doesn't make it necessarily great art or commercially valuable. I don't see how someone can make that kind of agruement against a plant. It's the people that abuse it, not the plants, that are bad. You can use anything you like to be self destructive. If it is in your nature you are going to do it, it has nothing to do with what you use to achieve it. Someone becoming a heroin addict after smoking pot has to do with their personality, not pot. Just like many things you listed, it's personal choice of the user, not the substance being used. It is a different age in pot with the despensories around and more of it being grown locally/semi-locally. About it being laced, don't smoke the low-end stuff, because you're right about that stuff, it's usually laced when it's no good to begin with. You've obviously never dealt with drug dealers either because it is the same thing there, it all depends on the person. They aren't all going to flip over on you and they don't all have guns. Besides not even the cops care about catching someone for possesion, it's just a bonus for them if they happen to catch you. You seem to have stereotyped the entire drug culture. Nothing is bad on it's own, it takes bad people to make it bad. Personally, I think we should illegalize all opiates. We can prescribe a highly addictive substance like Oxycontin and give no second thought to it. I, like most people, didn't even realize what it was, its prescription herion, but it's ok. I'd much rather have smoked pot and dealt with some of the pain rather than being prescribed Oxy and spending a month in my apartment trying to get over the withdrawls, failed that semester. I'm not even saying Oxy is bad, I'm saying doctors have made it bad by putting more importance on money than informing their patients of the risk they are putting them in by giving them a highly addictive substance and not monitoring the results of their actions. The gov can tell me pot is bad and Oxy is Ok all day long but I'll make that decision myself. That's what everyone needs to be doing anyways, getting informed and making their own choices. I would have liked to have made an informed decision on my post surgery pain medication but that was in the hands of my doctor, not me, and to me that's the problem. I know I have substance abuse issues and I would have never taken the Oxy option. If she wants to try it and has gathered enough information to be comfortable with it and doesn't feel that it will be something she uses in a negative way, let her try it. If it turns out bad, she will know better for the future. |
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pacificstar;
i refuse to quote your essay, but why are you guys posting entire essays on here?! D: i hardly know how to read! i don't know if this doesn't come across, but i'm not stupid. o.O i know it's a drug. i know it's illegal. i know people sell it. drug dealers are automatically deemed horrible people; i'm quite biased though. shhh. but that's a different story. obviously i'm not going to just pick up any random crap and smoke it. i don't even think i want to smoke it. i can't stand the smell. you mention all this 'damage.' i've never come across someone who smokes weed and is now in some terrible condition due to the weed, and i know plenty of people who smoke. some people say they go brain dead years later. um... most people are brain dead regardless. o.O and did you just call my art crap?! how dare you?! |
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Just chill out with your brother. It's not going to make you a genious either...... genius.* i don't need it to be a genius. ;D |
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B, there's better ways to access more of your stored creativity, trust me... I know you want to increase your creativity, but what is it you're really seeking? I'm sensing there's something more you're seeking to accomplish. perhaps there are other methods of accessing said creativity, assuming it's even there, but if this is a method that might work, why not try it? i dunno. if i die, i'll let you know. oh, and there is more than just the creativity part. let's just call it an experiment. :D |
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I certainly don't want B to do it cuz someone told her to. It is her decision whether to chance being busted, whether it works for her or whatever she is seeking. just to clear things up, no one told me to try it. as if i'd succumb to peer pressure. pshhh. |
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If she wants to try it and has gathered enough information to be comfortable with it and doesn't feel that it will be something she uses in a negative way, let her try it. If it turns out bad, she will know better for the future. i won't even eat a granola bar without reading what's in it, and people are assuming i'll pick up anything and smoke it. D: goodness gracious. i can't say this enough: i'm not stupid! at least that's what i've been led to believe. o.O |
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