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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 2
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 07:45 AM
Why would I? Elohim means "God". Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. When used with singular verbs and adjectives elohim is usually singular, "god" or especially, the God. When used with plural verbs and adjectives elohim is usually plural, "gods" or "powers".[ And it was you that say "Elohim" was used in an english translation. So if you can not back this claim, why lie? that's all I'm claiming...that Elohim means God....Elohim is a seperate being just like you claim the holy ghost and the holy spirit are ROFL, LISTEN. In the hewbrew translation it would say "Elohim so loved the world..." And in the english translation it says "God so love the world..."

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 07:46 AM
I do not know, I have not physically see God's body. I am still walking this world in the flesh. if you don't know...then God's body could be of Flesh and Blood ....and God could by lying about flesh and blood not inheriting the kingdom God does not lie, he is perfect and pure. since you don't know what his body is made of....then you have no idea if he lied or not Yes I do. God is perfect and pure, he does not lie. then prove it... what is his body made up of it is not made of Spirit ...what's left? A person can not prove anything to another person. So what you ask of me is impossible and pointless. simply use your noodle.....if the body of God is not Spirit and God as you claim didn't lie therefore he is not of flesh and blood.....then exactly what is left for God's body to be made of.....Darkness is all that is left Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 07:49 AM
Why would I? Elohim means "God". Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. When used with singular verbs and adjectives elohim is usually singular, "god" or especially, the God. When used with plural verbs and adjectives elohim is usually plural, "gods" or "powers".[ And it was you that say "Elohim" was used in an english translation. So if you can not back this claim, why lie? that's all I'm claiming...that Elohim means God....Elohim is a seperate being just like you claim the holy ghost and the holy spirit are ROFL, LISTEN. In the hewbrew translation it would say "Elohim so loved the world..." And in the english translation it says "God so love the world..." so explain why it didn't say that Jesus or the holy spirit or the holy ghost so loved the world

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 07:51 AM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 07:53 AM
Why would I? Elohim means "God". Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. When used with singular verbs and adjectives elohim is usually singular, "god" or especially, the God. When used with plural verbs and adjectives elohim is usually plural, "gods" or "powers".[ And it was you that say "Elohim" was used in an english translation. So if you can not back this claim, why lie? that's all I'm claiming...that Elohim means God....Elohim is a seperate being just like you claim the holy ghost and the holy spirit are ROFL, LISTEN. In the hewbrew translation it would say "Elohim so loved the world..." And in the english translation it says "God so love the world..." so explain why it didn't say that Jesus or the holy spirit or the holy ghost so loved the world Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. And also wouldn't give the entire meaning of the verse. Wouldn't show specifically which of the person"s" did whatever action is being referred to. Thus why it gives them different titles eg., Holy Ghost, God, LORD God, ect.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 07:57 AM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness Why? And yes God created the light, for he created everything. "Darkness" then also didn't exist until God created light.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 07:59 AM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 08:02 AM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness Why? And yes God created the light, for he created everything. "Darkness" then also didn't exist until God created light. God said let there be light..he said nothing about let there be darkness

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 11:40 AM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness Why? And yes God created the light, for he created everything. "Darkness" then also didn't exist until God created light. God said let there be light..he said nothing about let there be darkness Darkness isn't a "creation", it is the lack thereof. Darkness isn't a thing, isn't an element, isn't anything but the lack of light.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 11:41 AM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check No it might in some of the translations. Again that is why I asked you to show a verse that says "Elohim". I have not read or seen every last translation of the scriptures, therefore I can't give a ferm "no" to there possibly being a translation that occassionally uses the word "Elohim".

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 11:57 AM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness Why? And yes God created the light, for he created everything. "Darkness" then also didn't exist until God created light. God said let there be light..he said nothing about let there be darkness Darkness isn't a "creation", it is the lack thereof. Darkness isn't a thing, isn't an element, isn't anything but the lack of light. and with that...you just gave a perfect description of God

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 11:59 AM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check No it might in some of the translations. Again that is why I asked you to show a verse that says "Elohim". I have not read or seen every last translation of the scriptures, therefore I can't give a ferm "no" to there possibly being a translation that occassionally uses the word "Elohim". And again just for clearification(s). Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. When used with singular verbs and adjectives elohim is usually singular, "god" or especially, the God. When used with plural verbs and adjectives elohim is usually plural, "gods" or "powers".[ When elohim is plural though it's not meaning more then one God, as in God(s). That is why/how Jesus and his father are one God. For the word "Elohim" can be referring to multiple person(s). Example - When the word "Elohim" is used. It can be referring to Jesus' Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. But at the same time in even the next sentence it could be referring to just Jesus, then in the next sentence referring to Jesus and the Holy Ghost. That is why it's key to not take things out of context. And is why Jesus is our God, when Jesus was on the cross he yelled out "My God, My God", but yet there is still just one God.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 12:01 PM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness Why? And yes God created the light, for he created everything. "Darkness" then also didn't exist until God created light. God said let there be light..he said nothing about let there be darkness Darkness isn't a "creation", it is the lack thereof. Darkness isn't a thing, isn't an element, isn't anything but the lack of light. and with that...you just gave a perfect description of God ?? How so? It goes along with there is no such element as "cold". Something that is cold merely lacks the element of "heat", but is not an element in itself.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 12:05 PM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check No it might in some of the translations. Again that is why I asked you to show a verse that says "Elohim". I have not read or seen every last translation of the scriptures, therefore I can't give a ferm "no" to there possibly being a translation that occassionally uses the word "Elohim". And again just for clearification(s). Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. When used with singular verbs and adjectives elohim is usually singular, "god" or especially, the God. When used with plural verbs and adjectives elohim is usually plural, "gods" or "powers".[ When elohim is plural though it's not meaning more then one God, as in God(s). That is why/how Jesus and his father are one God. For the word "Elohim" can be referring to multiple person(s). Example - When the word "Elohim" is used. It can be referring to Jesus' Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. But at the same time in even the next sentence it could be referring to just Jesus, then in the next sentence referring to Jesus and the Holy Ghost. That is why it's key to not take things out of context. And is why Jesus is our God, when Jesus was on the cross he yelled out "My God, My God", but yet there is still just one God. Thus is why such things as "LORD" God is used. It is used to show exactly which of the person(s) is being referred to.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 12:05 PM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check No it might in some of the translations. Again that is why I asked you to show a verse that says "Elohim". I have not read or seen every last translation of the scriptures, therefore I can't give a ferm "no" to there possibly being a translation that occassionally uses the word "Elohim". Cowby...it you took a Hebrew that could only read the hebrew language and didn't know a thing about english and place "Elohim" in front of this person...they wouldn't know what the heck it was if you said the word Elohim to someone that only spoke hebrew and never heard a word of english they wouldn't have a clue as to what you were saying why? because "Elohim" is an English word not a hebrew word this is a deception that people use claiming that engliish words are Hebrew only words all words are a translation or translated into English...they are not Hebrew words Hebrews did not use the english Alphabets ..

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 12:08 PM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check No it might in some of the translations. Again that is why I asked you to show a verse that says "Elohim". I have not read or seen every last translation of the scriptures, therefore I can't give a ferm "no" to there possibly being a translation that occassionally uses the word "Elohim". Cowby...it you took a Hebrew that could only read the hebrew language and didn't know a thing about english and place "Elohim" in front of this person...they wouldn't know what the heck it was if you said the word Elohim to someone that only spoke hebrew and never heard a word of english they wouldn't have a clue as to what you were saying why? because "Elohim" is an English word not a hebrew word this is a deception that people use claiming that engliish words are Hebrew only words all words are a translation or translated into English...they are not Hebrew words Hebrews did not use the english Alphabets .. If you were vocally speaking to this hebrew and you said "Elohim" they would know exactly what you were talking about. Would be the same as speaking with someone in english saying the word "God". If you were writing this down to a hebrew you would have to write it the way it's written in there language "(אֱלֹהִ֔ים)" PRONOUNCED elohim.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 12:09 PM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness Why? And yes God created the light, for he created everything. "Darkness" then also didn't exist until God created light. God said let there be light..he said nothing about let there be darkness Darkness isn't a "creation", it is the lack thereof. Darkness isn't a thing, isn't an element, isn't anything but the lack of light. and with that...you just gave a perfect description of God ?? How so? It goes along with there is no such element as "cold". Something that is cold merely lacks the element of "heat", but is not an element in itself. God is also Cold and Darkness ..neither was created ......come on... name some more.. and you will soon understand

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/26/12 12:11 PM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check No it might in some of the translations. Again that is why I asked you to show a verse that says "Elohim". I have not read or seen every last translation of the scriptures, therefore I can't give a ferm "no" to there possibly being a translation that occassionally uses the word "Elohim". Cowby...it you took a Hebrew that could only read the hebrew language and didn't know a thing about english and place "Elohim" in front of this person...they wouldn't know what the heck it was if you said the word Elohim to someone that only spoke hebrew and never heard a word of english they wouldn't have a clue as to what you were saying why? because "Elohim" is an English word not a hebrew word this is a deception that people use claiming that engliish words are Hebrew only words all words are a translation or translated into English...they are not Hebrew words Hebrews did not use the english Alphabets .. If you were vocally speaking to this hebrew and you said "Elohim" they would know exactly what you were talking about. Would be the same as speaking with someone in english saying the word "God". If you were writing this down to a hebrew you would have to write it the way it's written in there language "(אֱלֹהִ֔ים)" PRONOUNCED elohim. nope....a Hebrew wouldn't know what you were saying....see this is why if you went to Church you would have learned about The Tower of Babel

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 12:12 PM
Funny you chose "Darkness" because there is also "light". Why you think so much of darkness? "light" didn't exist..."light" was something that God created .....therefore God's body has to be the Darkness Why? And yes God created the light, for he created everything. "Darkness" then also didn't exist until God created light. God said let there be light..he said nothing about let there be darkness Darkness isn't a "creation", it is the lack thereof. Darkness isn't a thing, isn't an element, isn't anything but the lack of light. and with that...you just gave a perfect description of God ?? How so? It goes along with there is no such element as "cold". Something that is cold merely lacks the element of "heat", but is not an element in itself. God is also Cold and Darkness ..neither was created ......come on... name some more.. and you will soon understand Cold and darkness were created in a sense. Cold is the lack of heat and darkness is the lack of light. Heat and light would be the direct creation by God, so with that also cold and darkness would be as well because of cause and effect.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/26/12 12:14 PM
Why would it waste the time doing as such? That is why the word "God" is used. Cowboy....are you willing to give your word as a Christian that Elohim does not appear in any of the English bibles of course you won't where have your Faith gone my son?... when you have to resort to lying and decpetion about something that you can so easily check No it might in some of the translations. Again that is why I asked you to show a verse that says "Elohim". I have not read or seen every last translation of the scriptures, therefore I can't give a ferm "no" to there possibly being a translation that occassionally uses the word "Elohim". Cowby...it you took a Hebrew that could only read the hebrew language and didn't know a thing about english and place "Elohim" in front of this person...they wouldn't know what the heck it was if you said the word Elohim to someone that only spoke hebrew and never heard a word of english they wouldn't have a clue as to what you were saying why? because "Elohim" is an English word not a hebrew word this is a deception that people use claiming that engliish words are Hebrew only words all words are a translation or translated into English...they are not Hebrew words Hebrews did not use the english Alphabets .. If you were vocally speaking to this hebrew and you said "Elohim" they would know exactly what you were talking about. Would be the same as speaking with someone in english saying the word "God". If you were writing this down to a hebrew you would have to write it the way it's written in there language "(אֱלֹהִ֔ים)" PRONOUNCED elohim. nope....a Hebrew wouldn't know what you were saying....see this is why if you went to Church you would have learned about The Tower of Babel They may not believe, wasn't saying they would believe. But they would know what the word in use means. And that has nothing to do with Tower of Babel... That movies wasn't about grammar.