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krupa Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 18651	Wed 02/22/12 04:27 PM
You are right sherri, If this would have happened due to my mistake,I must have ended my life. Even if he forgot to take him out,I don't consider it as an accident. No one has any right to punish any child with such cruelty. That shows that you are an honorable man Prash..... There is a reason. I consider you to be a friend. :)

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32401	Wed 02/22/12 05:36 PM
Apparently he was 6, not 9. Also, the reference to "backward" makes me assume he had Downs or some other cognitive problem. But there's a lot we can't tell from this side of the world. Whether it caused his death in any way or not, it was still a heartless punishment. Yeah, I was wondering what "backward" meant, too.

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32401	Wed 02/22/12 05:37 PM
Actually, after reading the time frame and seeing the bathroom part.....makes me think the kid may have contracted staph (staphylocauccus) or encephalitis. Both are found in fecal matter that has had exposure to oxygen ....require a short incubation time.....and are generally fatal within 30 days. (Stuff I had to learn for my job) .....still....I would probably just gut shoot that idiot. That's what I was thinking. But, it seems like he would have gotten really ill before dying. The family just says he was depressed.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Fri 02/24/12 10:19 AM
That shows that you are an honorable man Prash..... There is a reason. I consider you to be a friend. :) Thanks Dude, Me too have same respect about you & your opinions always. Being your friend,I'm already honored

boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Fri 02/24/12 11:08 AM
Nop..India don't have canings. Ajmal Kasab,The only terrorist caught alive in mumabi terror attack is also not punished yet. India needs to get with the program then!

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Fri 02/24/12 11:19 AM
While I agree that that is a terrible punishment and I wouldn't tolerate the school doing that to my child, I find it very hard to believe it caused his death a month later. Unless he caught some deadly virus while he was in there, which is possible I suppose. I am not saying this didn't cause him trauma depression. Nor I am condoning the behaviour in any way, shape or form. But, I am sure it did not cause his death. Autopsy needed. I agree. There is something else there. Being locked in the bathroom is excessive though(worse than an entire classroom as I first interpreted). What something else can be there?? The school manager is arguing that the child was already ill. Okay,Possibly that illness may have caused his death after a month. If it is so,can anyone still make excuses??? I consider that school teacher more foolish & more cruel person as he didn't cared even about child's illness & given him the cruel punishment despite of being ill. I think the teacher is more accused in latter case. A SIX years old ILL child when being locked alone in bathroom for hours ( That too indian + villages + schools + bathrooms) & when he gets unconscious during this punishment,I wonder how can anyone say SURELY that,that cruel punishment is not the root cause of his death. Even while writing here about schools washrooms; that dirty sharp smell sensed while just passing by is terrifying me by imagination of being locked inside that hell.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Fri 02/24/12 11:22 AM Edited by prashant01 on Fri 02/24/12 11:22 AM
Nop..India don't have canings. Ajmal Kasab,The only terrorist caught alive in mumabi terror attack is also not punished yet. India needs to get with the program then! As of now,we are busy in elections

winterblue56 Joined Sun 12/12/10 Posts: 2465	Fri 02/24/12 03:28 PM
Fear can be an actual cause of death, so can a broken heart . This is a terrible terrible crime against an innocent special needs child.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sat 02/25/12 07:16 AM
Fear can be an actual cause of death, so can a broken heart . This is a terrible terrible crime against an innocent special needs child. Fear as well as infection. Children have less immunity.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 02/25/12 12:16 PM
While I agree that that is a terrible punishment and I wouldn't tolerate the school doing that to my child, I find it very hard to believe it caused his death a month later. Unless he caught some deadly virus while he was in there, which is possible I suppose. I am not saying this didn't cause him trauma depression. Nor I am condoning the behaviour in any way, shape or form. But, I am sure it did not cause his death. Autopsy needed. I agree. There is something else there. Being locked in the bathroom is excessive though(worse than an entire classroom as I first interpreted). What something else can be there?? The school manager is arguing that the child was already ill. Okay,Possibly that illness may have caused his death after a month. If it is so,can anyone still make excuses??? I consider that school teacher more foolish & more cruel person as he didn't cared even about child's illness & given him the cruel punishment despite of being ill. I think the teacher is more accused in latter case. A SIX years old ILL child when being locked alone in bathroom for hours ( That too indian + villages + schools + bathrooms) & when he gets unconscious during this punishment,I wonder how can anyone say SURELY that,that cruel punishment is not the root cause of his death. Even while writing here about schools washrooms; that dirty sharp smell sensed while just passing by is terrifying me by imagination of being locked inside that hell. the 'something else' was in the detail of it being a BATHROOM and not a CLASSROOM being in a CLASSROOM Is what children do all day, and I would find it hard to believe someone could 'die' from that.... and if they were ill, that death would happen regardless of whether said classroom was locked or unlocked being in a BATHROOM, on the other hand, leaves open a much higher possibility of becoming ill due to the nature of the bathroom environment and space,,,,,,

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sun 02/26/12 04:26 AM
the 'something else' was in the detail of it being a BATHROOM and not a CLASSROOM being in a CLASSROOM Is what children do all day, and I would find it hard to believe someone could 'die' from that.... and if they were ill, that death would happen regardless of whether said classroom was locked or unlocked being in a BATHROOM, on the other hand, leaves open a much higher possibility of becoming ill due to the nature of the bathroom environment and space,,,,,, I confirmed from yahoo news,it was bathroom. Anyway,There is difference in being in classroom with others & being there locked alone as punishment.Threat can kill innocent like that,though not immediately. My point is that that fellow teacher was needed to think twice before punishing the sick child,he also don't have any moral right to punish even healthy child by locking him inside any room. No one is immortal,even healthy people too dies. It is the question of humanity,at least people in profession of dealing with children must exhibit that. He is a cruel person,not worthy of being a teacher.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/26/12 09:35 AM Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/26/12 09:36 AM
the 'something else' was in the detail of it being a BATHROOM and not a CLASSROOM being in a CLASSROOM Is what children do all day, and I would find it hard to believe someone could 'die' from that.... and if they were ill, that death would happen regardless of whether said classroom was locked or unlocked being in a BATHROOM, on the other hand, leaves open a much higher possibility of becoming ill due to the nature of the bathroom environment and space,,,,,, I confirmed from yahoo news,it was bathroom. Anyway,There is difference in being in classroom with others & being there locked alone as punishment.Threat can kill innocent like that,though not immediately. My point is that that fellow teacher was needed to think twice before punishing the sick child,he also don't have any moral right to punish even healthy child by locking him inside any room. No one is immortal,even healthy people too dies. It is the question of humanity,at least people in profession of dealing with children must exhibit that. He is a cruel person,not worthy of being a teacher. what you call 'locking someone in' could be considered protective in many cases as well kids need food, shelter, water, protection if they are in a space big enough and clean enough to have those things, a locked door makes little difference,,,except maybe to keep them from getting to places that may be LESS SAFE,,, Im thinking you may not have any children of your own,,,, parents here , who have to work, do the same thing daily in their homes, locking the doors and telling children NEVER to open them,,,, its as protective as anything else someone might do to keep a child from harm, whether the child wishes to go out or not,,,

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sun 02/26/12 09:50 AM
the 'something else' was in the detail of it being a BATHROOM and not a CLASSROOM being in a CLASSROOM Is what children do all day, and I would find it hard to believe someone could 'die' from that.... and if they were ill, that death would happen regardless of whether said classroom was locked or unlocked being in a BATHROOM, on the other hand, leaves open a much higher possibility of becoming ill due to the nature of the bathroom environment and space,,,,,, I confirmed from yahoo news,it was bathroom. Anyway,There is difference in being in classroom with others & being there locked alone as punishment.Threat can kill innocent like that,though not immediately. My point is that that fellow teacher was needed to think twice before punishing the sick child,he also don't have any moral right to punish even healthy child by locking him inside any room. No one is immortal,even healthy people too dies. It is the question of humanity,at least people in profession of dealing with children must exhibit that. He is a cruel person,not worthy of being a teacher. what you call 'locking someone in' could be considered protective in many cases as well kids need food, shelter, water, protection if they are in a space big enough and clean enough to have those things, a locked door makes little difference,,,except maybe to keep them from getting to places that may be LESS SAFE,,, Im thinking you may not have any children of your own,,,, parents here , who have to work, do the same thing daily in their homes, locking the doors and telling children NEVER to open them,,,, its as protective as anything else someone might do to keep a child from harm, whether the child wishes to go out or not,,, That is cultural difference. You are thinking wrong,I have two children of my own. We never lock our children inside alone.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/26/12 09:58 AM
the 'something else' was in the detail of it being a BATHROOM and not a CLASSROOM being in a CLASSROOM Is what children do all day, and I would find it hard to believe someone could 'die' from that.... and if they were ill, that death would happen regardless of whether said classroom was locked or unlocked being in a BATHROOM, on the other hand, leaves open a much higher possibility of becoming ill due to the nature of the bathroom environment and space,,,,,, I confirmed from yahoo news,it was bathroom. Anyway,There is difference in being in classroom with others & being there locked alone as punishment.Threat can kill innocent like that,though not immediately. My point is that that fellow teacher was needed to think twice before punishing the sick child,he also don't have any moral right to punish even healthy child by locking him inside any room. No one is immortal,even healthy people too dies. It is the question of humanity,at least people in profession of dealing with children must exhibit that. He is a cruel person,not worthy of being a teacher. what you call 'locking someone in' could be considered protective in many cases as well kids need food, shelter, water, protection if they are in a space big enough and clean enough to have those things, a locked door makes little difference,,,except maybe to keep them from getting to places that may be LESS SAFE,,, Im thinking you may not have any children of your own,,,, parents here , who have to work, do the same thing daily in their homes, locking the doors and telling children NEVER to open them,,,, its as protective as anything else someone might do to keep a child from harm, whether the child wishes to go out or not,,, That is cultural difference. You are thinking wrong,I have two children of my own. We never lock our children inside alone. well, there you have it we have many more dangers awaiting them outside a locked door than we do inside and a culture where both parents often have to work longer hours than children are at school....

massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Sun 02/26/12 10:20 AM
It's time for a witch-hunt! Who needs facts? Its more fun to accuse people, hate people, demonize people based on allegations. We have nothing here except the allegations of bereaved parents.

massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Sun 02/26/12 10:24 AM
yea, I would like to know more. Not understanding how if the building was closed.. where were the parents? Would they have not gone looking for their child when he/she didn't come home after school? That's what I want to know. And what the child died of. Because i don't believe "fright" would be listed on the death certificate.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/26/12 10:25 AM
It's time for a witch-hunt! Who needs facts? Its more fun to accuse people, hate people, demonize people based on allegations. We have nothing here except the allegations of bereaved parents. true as well that is why I said there was not enough information but culturally, if it happened in a place where locking a door in a room that has a child in it is deplorable,, no more information would be needed,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/26/12 10:29 AM Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/26/12 10:30 AM
two universally controversial truths about human individuals 1. They can have a healthy happy life without an intimate partner. 2. They can have a healthy, happy life without sex,,,, BUT They have to love themself enough to manage either one,,,,and be able to cherish more than one type of relationship or one type of 'intimacy' or love,,,, SORRY CLICKED THE WRONG THREAD,,,lol

massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Sun 02/26/12 10:33 AM
It's time for a witch-hunt! Who needs facts? Its more fun to accuse people, hate people, demonize people based on allegations. We have nothing here except the allegations of bereaved parents. true as well that is why I said there was not enough information but culturally, if it happened in a place where locking a door in a room that has a child in it is deplorable,, no more information would be needed,,, Oh, you are talking about the question of whether or not its okay to lock a child in a room, or a bathroom. I was talking about the accusation that the school is somehow responsible for his death. You are right, in both cases we should have facts before making accusations. But re: cause of death, I think the need for caution before making accusations is even greater, and there is even less evidence.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Mon 02/27/12 10:35 AM
It's time for a witch-hunt! Who needs facts? Its more fun to accuse people, hate people, demonize people based on allegations. We have nothing here except the allegations of bereaved parents. true as well that is why I said there was not enough information but culturally, if it happened in a place where locking a door in a room that has a child in it is deplorable,, no more information would be needed,,, Oh, you are talking about the question of whether or not its okay to lock a child in a room, or a bathroom. I was talking about the accusation that the school is somehow responsible for his death. You are right, in both cases we should have facts before making accusations. But re: cause of death, I think the need for caution before making accusations is even greater, and there is even less evidence. She too means that accusation of school is obvious. Fact is that the child is no more & he was been punished & during punishment he fall incautious. The real question is,why shall they punish the children so hard??