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Sun 02/19/12 05:10 PM


Whatever. All I wanted to do was have a discussion on a topic that interested me. I'm tired of all the drama and BS.

I'm outta here.


flowers flowers


:heart:

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Sun 02/19/12 08:21 PM
Ted L Gunderson Ex FBI Whistleblower Poisoned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu77VlA41Sk

Ted Gunderson - The Great Conspiracy Exposed 1/7 PL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5r3HELQBXI

watch all 7 parts

Lpdon's photo
Sun 02/19/12 11:16 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 02/19/12 11:24 PM

I have no idea who Bob Lazar is or what he has to do with the Illuminati but I agree 100% that we should not be spending money looking for aliens. This thread isn't even about aliens. You were the one who made the alien movie reference.


Bob Lazar is an icon to the conspiracy theory crowd. He claims to be a physicist (When in fact he never graduated college) who worked at Area 51 and a even more secretavie part of Area 51 called S-4 and he claimed to personally help reverse engineer a flying saucer and claimed there were actual aliens working with scientists.

It's proven that he never obtained a college degree in physics or even studied physics. He also is a convicted Felon multiple times including a recent conviction in 2006.

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Sun 02/19/12 11:23 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 02/19/12 11:26 PM



Remember,you all made me out to be an Agent of MOSSAD,CIA or MI6!
And I shouldn't laugh?


I don't know what you are talking about.

If you feel you must stay and make remarks, go ahead.

I'm not going to continue to argue.


I haven't a clue what he is talking about either but it's strange that he has directed his actions towards us
well,it's interesting that you happened to be in that same Crowd!
Strange!

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Sun 02/19/12 11:24 PM


I have no idea who Bob Lazar is or what he has to do with the Illuminati but I agree 100% that we should not be spending money looking for aliens. This thread isn't even about aliens. You were the one who made the alien movie reference.


Bob Lazar is an icon to the conspiracy theory crowd. He claims to be a physicist (When in fact he never graduated college) who worked at Area 51 and a even more secretavie part of Area 51 called S-2 and he claimed to personally help reverse engineer a flying saucer and claimed there were actual aliens working with scientists.

It's proven that he never obtained a college degree in physics or even studied physics. He also is a convicted Felon multiple times including a recent conviction in 2006.
yes,he is a strange one!

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 02/19/12 11:31 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 02/19/12 11:36 PM

Ted L Gunderson Ex FBI Whistleblower Poisoned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu77VlA41Sk

Ted Gunderson - The Great Conspiracy Exposed 1/7 PL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5r3HELQBXI

watch all 7 parts

In an interview (see link below), Gunderson discusses incidents U.S. government sponsored terrorism and the reasons behind them. He was a member of the Constitution Party. Ted died on July 31, 2011 from complications from cancer.WIKI
what
Why has every Conspiracy-Theorist who died been murdered?
Proof by the Conspirators that a Conspiracy exists?


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Sun 02/19/12 11:50 PM


I have no idea who Bob Lazar is or what he has to do with the Illuminati but I agree 100% that we should not be spending money looking for aliens. This thread isn't even about aliens. You were the one who made the alien movie reference.


thanks for clarifying I was wondering what he was talking about...I'm easily confused on my first cup of joe


and yes - historically illuminati have roots in nobility in europe, but I don;t think that means that all the royals are intimately involved.

or that it continues to be comprised exclusively of royals as members?

or that it continues to exist in an influential manner.... Also the actual original secret society was banned by the Church many years/centuries ago

IDK - if it really exists as a secret society or is it a term "borrowed" (by rappers for example)to apply to any inherent commercial or political power structure that controls us?

actually the governing Nobility were quite against it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

If you read German,the German WIKI is even more expansive!

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminatenorden

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Mon 02/20/12 04:37 AM


Ted L Gunderson Ex FBI Whistleblower Poisoned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu77VlA41Sk

Ted Gunderson - The Great Conspiracy Exposed 1/7 PL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5r3HELQBXI

watch all 7 parts

In an interview (see link below), Gunderson discusses incidents U.S. government sponsored terrorism and the reasons behind them. He was a member of the Constitution Party. Ted died on July 31, 2011 from complications from cancer.WIKI
what
Why has every Conspiracy-Theorist who died been murdered?
Proof by the Conspirators that a Conspiracy exists?




Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event. A recent example is the belief, widespread in some parts of the world, that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out not by Al Qaeda, but by Israel or the United States. Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law. The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined. Such theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences. A distinctive feature of conspiracy theories is their self-sealing quality. Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585/

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Mon 02/20/12 05:35 AM
Technically the US was working with aliens,the German scientist from Germany.That would make them aliens cause they came from another country.

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Mon 02/20/12 01:39 PM



I have no idea who Bob Lazar is or what he has to do with the Illuminati but I agree 100% that we should not be spending money looking for aliens. This thread isn't even about aliens. You were the one who made the alien movie reference.


Bob Lazar is an icon to the conspiracy theory crowd. He claims to be a physicist (When in fact he never graduated college) who worked at Area 51 and a even more secretavie part of Area 51 called S-2 and he claimed to personally help reverse engineer a flying saucer and claimed there were actual aliens working with scientists.

It's proven that he never obtained a college degree in physics or even studied physics. He also is a convicted Felon multiple times including a recent conviction in 2006.
yes,he is a strange one!


And wouldn't you think since all he claims to know that it would be just easier for the government to have him killed? I mean thats that the Conspiracy Theory people always say the government does to people who come forward, so why is Lazar still alive? The guy is a proven moron and would be a hard target.

Hell, looks like he is facing another felony. He opened a science website where he sells science stuff and ended up selling someone Polonium (not realizing what it was laugh).

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Mon 02/20/12 03:41 PM


slaphead

Lp, if you are trying to suggest we are crazy, maybe you should use a movie reference where the aliens were NOT real.


rofl flowerforyou



There's no such thing as aliens? :( *packs suitcase and threatens to run away*

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Mon 02/20/12 04:31 PM



slaphead

Lp, if you are trying to suggest we are crazy, maybe you should use a movie reference where the aliens were NOT real.


rofl flowerforyou



There's no such thing as aliens? :( *packs suitcase and threatens to run away*


Not enough evidence to prove either way honestly. But to think were the only life form out there is crazy. I just don't think we have come in contact with any and do not have any alien space craft or technology in our posession.

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Tue 02/21/12 09:38 PM
If Aliens aren't real how do we explain David Cameron? And most of the British Government.

If the city of London controls the finance of the world, then its really no wonder we are in a recession.

To be honest we are all slaves to the Governments.

I once watched a very interesting article on Youtube, the history of your enslavement.

Its worth a watch, and it does give a lot of food for thought.

And seriously David Icke?!? The dude said on national tv he was the 2nd coming at one stage. I do watch his lectures, but only for entertainment purposes. Ever since he said he was the 2nd coming, I cant take him seriously.

If you want fuel for the alien theory, check out the nasa minutes from apollo 11, when the shuttle went round the back of the moon and we lost comms with them, they still had the black box running which recorded all the conversations between the astronauts. Nasa said this went 'Missing', but somehow they typed up the minutes, and have released it under the foia.
In those minutes, the astronauts talk about lights on the moon, and things they observed on the darkside of the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qM3xOu9HRU
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/mission_trans/mission_transcripts.htm

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Tue 02/21/12 11:06 PM

If Aliens aren't real how do we explain David Cameron? And most of the British Government.

If the city of London controls the finance of the world, then its really no wonder we are in a recession.

To be honest we are all slaves to the Governments.

I once watched a very interesting article on Youtube, the history of your enslavement.

Its worth a watch, and it does give a lot of food for thought.

And seriously David Icke?!? The dude said on national tv he was the 2nd coming at one stage. I do watch his lectures, but only for entertainment purposes. Ever since he said he was the 2nd coming, I cant take him seriously.

If you want fuel for the alien theory, check out the nasa minutes from apollo 11, when the shuttle went round the back of the moon and we lost comms with them, they still had the black box running which recorded all the conversations between the astronauts. Nasa said this went 'Missing', but somehow they typed up the minutes, and have released it under the foia.
In those minutes, the astronauts talk about lights on the moon, and things they observed on the darkside of the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qM3xOu9HRU
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/mission_trans/mission_transcripts.htm


If anything they say reflections off of downed Soviet Satellites and spacecrafts.

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Wed 02/22/12 12:56 AM
2 full movies


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwVHeHhiLfU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzEeq5Adi0c

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