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Topic: US regime continues to provoke Iranians in Persian Gulf
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Tue 02/14/12 09:06 PM
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/02/14/us-continues-to-provoke-iran-in-persian-gulf/
US Continues to Provoke Iran in Persian Gulf
A BBC reporter explains the presence of US warships to Iran's south is "a show of force"

The massive fleet of U.S. Navy warships continue to engage provocatively in the Persian Gulf, just south of Iran, while the U.S. media present Iranian patrols as deliberate threats.

The Persian Gulf has been the focal point of grandstanding militarism in recent months, as U.S.-led sanctions aimed at crippling Iran’s oil and banking sectors have pushed the Iranians to threaten to close the Straits of Hormuz, through which 20 percent of the world’s oil export passes.

However, a recent report from the Congressional Research Service concluded such a move is a “a low probability event” given Iran’s profoundly inferior military and naval capacity and the fact that Iran relies heavily on the Strait for it’s own exports and economic well-being.

The threat was mainly a response to U.S. aggression and militarism, which is rarely addressed in the domestic news media. But onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln in the Gulf’s Strait of Hormuz, BBC reporter Jonathan Beale explained, “This carrier and these [fighter] jets are more than just a show of force, they’re here to send a clear message to Iran as to who really controls these waters.”

Similarly, Rear Admiral Roy Shoemaker admitted to the BBC, “The presence of this ship is provocative.”

Meanwhile, U.S. reports purport to show Iranian provocations. “Iranian patrol boats and aircraft,” reports the Washington Times, “shadowed a U.S. aircraft carrier strike group as it passed through the Strait of Hormuz on Tuesday.” But U.S. officers explained this was routine, even as helicopters flying above the aircraft carrier warded off any approaching Iranian boats, which are miniature compared to the U.S. warships.

A Washington Post story on the incident explained that some of these so-called clashes in the Gulf actually involved boats containing smugglers, and not Iranian navy patrol boats.

These tensions in the Persian Gulf and the harsh U.S.-led sanctions on Iran are due to Iranian noncompliance with U.S. demands to halt all uranium enrichment, despite it being Iran’s right to do so under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The Obama administration, the U.S. military, and the U.S. intelligence community are all in agreement that Iran’s nuclear program is so far civilian in nature.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 02/14/12 09:21 PM
and the "doomsday clock" is now set at 5 minutes to midnight ...

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Tue 02/14/12 09:25 PM
I'm guessing March 15th. bigsmile

s1owhand's photo
Wed 02/15/12 08:55 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Wed 02/15/12 08:56 AM
Bottom line Israel has the responsibility to protect her citizens from
annihilation. Iranians have been found with blood and grenades so there
is little doubt about who is responsible. Israel always protects her
people and has every right to meet her responsibilities.

Those like Iran and proxies such as Hamas and Hezbollah will find that
threats are taken seriously and appropriate actions will be taken by
those they threaten like the U.S. and Israel.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and we are all ready to
defend ourselves from threats of nuclear weapons development and
attacks on our citizens here in the U.S. and I support Israel's
efforts to protect her citizens as well.

We would be well to remember that Iran has sworn the destruction of
the United States too. Watch it here.

http://youtu.be/mXRXnmsvwRQ

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Wed 02/15/12 09:00 AM
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Strait from the Propaganda Bible.

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 02/15/12 09:14 AM

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/02/14/us-continues-to-provoke-iran-in-persian-gulf/
US Continues to Provoke Iran in Persian Gulf
A BBC reporter explains the presence of US warships to Iran's south is "a show of force"

The massive fleet of U.S. Navy warships continue to engage provocatively in the Persian Gulf, just south of Iran, while the U.S. media present Iranian patrols as deliberate threats.

The Persian Gulf has been the focal point of grandstanding militarism in recent months, as U.S.-led sanctions aimed at crippling Iran’s oil and banking sectors have pushed the Iranians to threaten to close the Straits of Hormuz, through which 20 percent of the world’s oil export passes.

However, a recent report from the Congressional Research Service concluded such a move is a “a low probability event” given Iran’s profoundly inferior military and naval capacity and the fact that Iran relies heavily on the Strait for it’s own exports and economic well-being.

The threat was mainly a response to U.S. aggression and militarism, which is rarely addressed in the domestic news media. But onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln in the Gulf’s Strait of Hormuz, BBC reporter Jonathan Beale explained, “This carrier and these [fighter] jets are more than just a show of force, they’re here to send a clear message to Iran as to who really controls these waters.”

Similarly, Rear Admiral Roy Shoemaker admitted to the BBC, “The presence of this ship is provocative.”

Meanwhile, U.S. reports purport to show Iranian provocations. “Iranian patrol boats and aircraft,” reports the Washington Times, “shadowed a U.S. aircraft carrier strike group as it passed through the Strait of Hormuz on Tuesday.” But U.S. officers explained this was routine, even as helicopters flying above the aircraft carrier warded off any approaching Iranian boats, which are miniature compared to the U.S. warships.

A Washington Post story on the incident explained that some of these so-called clashes in the Gulf actually involved boats containing smugglers, and not Iranian navy patrol boats.

These tensions in the Persian Gulf and the harsh U.S.-led sanctions on Iran are due to Iranian noncompliance with U.S. demands to halt all uranium enrichment, despite it being Iran’s right to do so under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The Obama administration, the U.S. military, and the U.S. intelligence community are all in agreement that Iran’s nuclear program is so far civilian in nature.
Not according to the International Atomic Energy Agency!
Besides the Gulf and it's Access are International Waterways,which Iran has repeatedly threatened to close!

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Wed 02/15/12 07:18 PM
Who says they are International waterways? By whose authority are they "International waterways?"

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Wed 02/15/12 07:27 PM

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 02/15/12 07:33 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Wed 02/15/12 07:35 PM

Bottom line Israel has the responsibility to protect her citizens from
annihilation. Iranians have been found with blood and grenades so there
is little doubt about who is responsible. Israel always protects her
people and has every right to meet her responsibilities.

Those like Iran and proxies such as Hamas and Hezbollah will find that
threats are taken seriously and appropriate actions will be taken by
those they threaten like the U.S. and Israel.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and we are all ready to
defend ourselves from threats of nuclear weapons development and
attacks on our citizens here in the U.S. and I support Israel's
efforts to protect her citizens as well.

We would be well to remember that Iran has sworn the destruction of
the United States too. Watch it here.

http://youtu.be/mXRXnmsvwRQ

This propaganda film is funded by radical, racist zionists, you know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarion_Fund#Criticism

Clarion Fund has been criticized for its close ties to Aish Hatorah, a Jewish educational organization. According to Clarion Fund's incorporation papers, it is based at the same address as Aish Hatorah, a religious organization.[7]
According to the International Relations Center, Eli Clifton said that the Clarion fund was attempting to “stir up a climate of fear in the United States.”[11]

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Wed 02/15/12 08:13 PM




Damn.

shocked

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 02/15/12 09:30 PM
Propaganda is interesting.

While the picture is sobering...

I allready knew this.

I mentioned it many months ago.

However the Article is a Propaganda piece without doubt.

It immediately jumps into high emotional content words.

Describing a standard fleet in movement through the straigts.

with the words 'Massive fleet'.

Yet mentioning not.

That Iran had recently conducted (not a movement through) a Combat Manuever Drill.

Who then was actually rattling the saber.

The fleet was scheduled to go through long before it moved.

The Iranians however announced their Combat drill...

but hours before the action (as thought hoping for an immediate response).

or have I missed something.


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Wed 02/15/12 11:11 PM




The map is not accurate. Hell, it even shows a base in the middle of the water. laugh

Lpdon's photo
Wed 02/15/12 11:13 PM

Propaganda is interesting.

While the picture is sobering...

I allready knew this.

I mentioned it many months ago.

However the Article is a Propaganda piece without doubt.

It immediately jumps into high emotional content words.

Describing a standard fleet in movement through the straigts.

with the words 'Massive fleet'.

Yet mentioning not.

That Iran had recently conducted (not a movement through) a Combat Manuever Drill.

Who then was actually rattling the saber.

The fleet was scheduled to go through long before it moved.

The Iranians however announced their Combat drill...

but hours before the action (as thought hoping for an immediate response).

or have I missed something.




They also attempted to provoke a carrier, destroyer and a US Coast Guard cutter.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 02/15/12 11:14 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/us-navy-rescues-iranian-fishermen_n_1215097.html

What about this? We saved three Iranian boats full of people three times an about two weeks.

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 02/15/12 11:22 PM

Who says they are International waterways? By whose authority are they "International waterways?"
By International Law and Treaties!

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Wed 02/15/12 11:23 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/us-navy-rescues-iranian-fishermen_n_1215097.html

What about this? We saved three Iranian boats full of people three times an about two weeks.



Conrad_73's photo
Wed 02/15/12 11:24 PM


Bottom line Israel has the responsibility to protect her citizens from
annihilation. Iranians have been found with blood and grenades so there
is little doubt about who is responsible. Israel always protects her
people and has every right to meet her responsibilities.

Those like Iran and proxies such as Hamas and Hezbollah will find that
threats are taken seriously and appropriate actions will be taken by
those they threaten like the U.S. and Israel.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and we are all ready to
defend ourselves from threats of nuclear weapons development and
attacks on our citizens here in the U.S. and I support Israel's
efforts to protect her citizens as well.

We would be well to remember that Iran has sworn the destruction of
the United States too. Watch it here.

http://youtu.be/mXRXnmsvwRQ

This propaganda film is funded by radical, racist zionists, you know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarion_Fund#Criticism

Clarion Fund has been criticized for its close ties to Aish Hatorah, a Jewish educational organization. According to Clarion Fund's incorporation papers, it is based at the same address as Aish Hatorah, a religious organization.[7]
According to the International Relations Center, Eli Clifton said that the Clarion fund was attempting to “stir up a climate of fear in the United States.”[11]
ThinkProgress!laugh

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 02/15/12 11:34 PM


Propaganda is interesting.

While the picture is sobering...

I allready knew this.

I mentioned it many months ago.

However the Article is a Propaganda piece without doubt.

It immediately jumps into high emotional content words.

Describing a standard fleet in movement through the straigts.

with the words 'Massive fleet'.

Yet mentioning not.

That Iran had recently conducted (not a movement through) a Combat Manuever Drill.

Who then was actually rattling the saber.

The fleet was scheduled to go through long before it moved.

The Iranians however announced their Combat drill...

but hours before the action (as thought hoping for an immediate response).

or have I missed something.




They also attempted to provoke a carrier, destroyer and a US Coast Guard cutter.

Not according to the Navy. Navy's do that on a regular basis.
Its called shadowing.

It says 'I can go here too because I have teeth'

While the US Navy also said the same.

To countries dancing in the Nation arena.

Much like football.

If we go to the Yellow Sea. We dance about the Chinese doing the same thing.

and I figured out why that map-picture looked so wrong.

Iran is a much larger country than depicted by the scew of the map.

and the US bases that show on it.

Are mostly involved in things that do not actually THREATEN iran.

Just the idiots that keep killing people with bombs.

Do you know how many women died in Afganistan.

Phastun Women.

For hate and bigotry.

Allah knows.

He gathered them up.


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Thu 02/16/12 12:25 AM
The Iranian Armageddon
http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2011/04/iranian-armageddon.html



By Alan Caruba

In the months and years leading up to the beginning of World War Two, all the parties knew full well Hitler’s intention to start a war. When he struck a deal with Stalin to divide Poland, the die was cast. The invasion came in September 1939. Previously, diplomats had met with the Nazis to offer them the former Czechoslovakia and turned a blind eye to other provocative events.

World War Two was preceded by Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” that spelled out his plans for Europe’s Jews and the torrent of lies that led to war and the genocide that became known as the Holocaust.

It is not surprising that history is repeating itself as in the case of an April 7 letter to The Wall Street Journal by Alireza Miryousefi of the Iranian Mission to the U.N. “There is no evidence of any military diversion” in Iran’s nuclear facilities claimed Mr. Miryousefi, who went on to assert that “the real threat of nuclear proliferation” was Israel which he described as “the Zionist regime.”

Despite Iran’s support for two terrorist organizations, Hezbollah and Hamas, it was Israel, said Mr. Miryousefi, that was “the biggest terrorist and apartheid regime.”

Today, everyone knows the Iran’s crazed ayatollahs intend to secure nuclear weapon capability and everyone knows that, when they do, they will attack Israel with them. They have never ceased to call for its destruction. It is not a question of if, but when.

How close is “when”? The Iranians just released a video titled “The Coming is Near” that describes the current events in the Middle East as the prelude to the coming of the Twelfth Imam, the Mahdi, a figure particular to the Shiite branch of Islam and one that Islamic scriptures say will lead the armies of Islam to victory over all non-Muslims in the last days.

In a nuclear age, as Nikita Krushchev, a former Premier of the Soviet Union, once said, “The living will envy the dead.” Those were the days of the Cold War and, with both the U.S. and Russia possessing nukes, the concept of mutually assured destruction, MAD, was understood. This, however, does not apply to the ayatollahs. They need massive destruction to bring about their Islamic End Times scenario.

In a recent Wall Street Journal interview with Bernard Lewis, the West’s leading scholar on the Middle East, he pointed out that the mullahs “are religious fanatics with an apocalyptic mindset. In Islam, as in Christianity and Judaism, there is an end-of-times scenario—and they think it’s beginning or has already begun.”

The result, said Lewis, is that “mutually assured destruction is not a deterrent—it’s an inducement.”

In the days leading up to World War Two, the diplomatic choice was appeasement. Today, hope is that the mullahs can be deterred long enough that Iranians will somehow bring about regime change from within. The computer virus, Stuxnet, had the affect of interfering with the enrichment process necessary to weaponize uranium, but may not now be a factor.

In the meantime, the Gulf Cooperation Council, composed of six GCC states are discussing a proposal to identify and deport an estimated 20,000 Shiites linked to Iran. In Kuwait the plan would focus on Lebanese Shiites with links to Hezbollah and Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

It is believed that many Iranian agents have been activated this year and, as such, pose a security threat. Said one GCC insider, “For years, the GCC knew of these people, but looked the other way. We can’t look the other way anymore.”

The news, unfortunately, just keeps getting worse and worse. In the muddle that represents the effort to overthrow Libya’s Gadhafi, DebkaFile reports that the “rebels” have sold thousands of chemical shells found in Benghazi to Hezbollah and Hamas, two puppet organizations funded by Iran.

When you add to that the thousands of rockets cached in Lebanon by Hezbollah and the rocketing that has been reinstituted from Gaza by Hamas, you have a trigger for a wider war.

Specifically, you have the elements of the destruction of Israel by the Iranians and the so-called Palestinians, a stateless group that have been the pawns of Iran and Arab nations for more than six decades.

In late March, Senators Mark Kirk (R-Ill) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) were joined by twenty-five other Senators who sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asking her to identify specific steps the administration is taking to press the Palestinian Authority to end the “dangerous incitement against Jews and Israel.” The letter was sent in the wake of the terrorist murder of the Fogel family in Itamar and a bombing of a civilian bus in Jerusalem. A school bus has since been attacked.

You don’t have to be a CIA analyst to know that events in the Middle East will be exploited by the Iranians to bring about their apocalyptic End Times aspirations and that the destruction of Israel is, in their view, the trigger. After Israel, the United States and Europe will be next.

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Thu 02/16/12 01:07 AM
I love the expression "US Regime" vis-a-vis the theocratic oppressive Regime of Iran.laugh

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