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Topic: Obama pulls combat pay for deployed troops
boredinaz06's photo
Mon 02/06/12 11:08 PM
Edited by boredinaz06 on Mon 02/06/12 11:09 PM
President Obama’s latest policy outrage makes no attempt to hide his contempt for our military, as he is ordering that our troops serving overseas in war zones overseas are not to receive combat pay unless they are being shot at. A Marine who lives in Florida has just posted a note on Facebook which stated that he received a letter from his PayPal account that he would only be receiving his Hazard pay (Imminent Danger Pay) if he is actually in a hostile area and at risk of being shot at.

So I just got a letter from MyPay (the way we get paid in the military), saying that I will only reason Combat Pay while deployed for the days that I take fire or am in a hostile area. Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone…it may not always be popping off, but for them to take that away from us is bullshitt. Now, the aviation tech who sits on Camp Leatherneck, sure, I can see him not getting Combat Pay, but to take it away from the grunts, the ground pounders, the front line of defense…come on, Uncle Sam. You let the Liberals win a big one here… Florida Marine Corp Soldier (We are not posting his name for obvious reasons)

According to Military.com, as of February 1, 2012, this new measure went into effect, and soldiers who are to received the additional $225/mo. combat pay ‘must’ must be in immediate risk of harm. The measure is very specific in its criteria for receiving the additonal pay.

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

*Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or

*On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.

The last bullet point speaks volumes as to the sheer stupidity of this measure. The whole point of going to Afghanistan and Iraq was for combat operations- Afghanistan still is a hostile warzone, and both U.S. and NATO forces continue to suffer losses in and out of combat hot zones. Insurgent attacks have accured throughout areas that have been deemed ‘safe’, and in areas where hostilities were not forseen.

http://patdollard.com/2012/02/obama-pulls-combat-pay-for-u-s-troops/

msharmony's photo
Tue 02/07/12 12:35 AM
so,, hazardous duty pay will only be paid when performing hazardous duty?

shocked shocked shocked

ur joking,,,,

Lpdon's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:25 AM
I see Barry's cheerleading section has arrived..............

msharmony's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:37 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 02/07/12 01:37 AM
just call me the leveler

from military.com (QUOTED INSTEAD OF PARAPHRASED)

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 FOR ANY MONTH in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or
On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.
Note: Reserve members are also eligible for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay.




if you didnt meet any of those requirements for a MONTH, you wont get paid as if you did (for that month),,,,

Lpdon's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:47 AM

President Obama’s latest policy outrage makes no attempt to hide his contempt for our military, as he is ordering that our troops serving overseas in war zones overseas are not to receive combat pay unless they are being shot at. A Marine who lives in Florida has just posted a note on Facebook which stated that he received a letter from his PayPal account that he would only be receiving his Hazard pay (Imminent Danger Pay) if he is actually in a hostile area and at risk of being shot at.

So I just got a letter from MyPay (the way we get paid in the military), saying that I will only reason Combat Pay while deployed for the days that I take fire or am in a hostile area. Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone…it may not always be popping off, but for them to take that away from us is bullshitt. Now, the aviation tech who sits on Camp Leatherneck, sure, I can see him not getting Combat Pay, but to take it away from the grunts, the ground pounders, the front line of defense…come on, Uncle Sam. You let the Liberals win a big one here… Florida Marine Corp Soldier (We are not posting his name for obvious reasons)

According to Military.com, as of February 1, 2012, this new measure went into effect, and soldiers who are to received the additional $225/mo. combat pay ‘must’ must be in immediate risk of harm. The measure is very specific in its criteria for receiving the additonal pay.

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

*Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or

*On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.

The last bullet point speaks volumes as to the sheer stupidity of this measure. The whole point of going to Afghanistan and Iraq was for combat operations- Afghanistan still is a hostile warzone, and both U.S. and NATO forces continue to suffer losses in and out of combat hot zones. Insurgent attacks have accured throughout areas that have been deemed ‘safe’, and in areas where hostilities were not forseen.

http://patdollard.com/2012/02/obama-pulls-combat-pay-for-u-s-troops/


Wow, just wow. If they are in Afganistan or Iraq they should get hazard pay. There isn't a day that goes by that a service member isn't shot at or RPG's fired at their bases PLUS all of the mines and IED's in the area. If thats not worth combat pay then I dont know what is.

I also thought their hazard pay was a lot more then $225.00 a month. That is outrageous, it should be a lot more then that. Barry is basically saying each member of the military isn't even woth the $225.00 they are supposed to get paid.

Leave it to Barry to put a dollar amount on a mans life then screw him out of it. Right there Barry is saying that our men and women arn't worth $225.00 a month.

I think this might be payback to the members of the military since barely anyone in the military supports him. Leave it to Barry to screw the brave men and women who are selflessly serving their country fighting an enemy like we have never even fsced before. An enemy that voilates every rule there is.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/07/12 02:45 AM
Pretty frigging sad!
sick ill ill

no photo
Tue 02/07/12 04:25 AM
Obama....all about America and her peopleohwell ....Fire Obama!!!.....

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 02/07/12 05:53 AM
~heavy sigh~

Obama destroyed America and the next guy is gonna fix it.

yea, ok indifferent

no photo
Tue 02/07/12 05:57 AM

~heavy sigh~

Obama destroyed America and the next guy is gonna fix it.

yea, ok indifferent


America is not destroyed, far from it...Obama gave it his best shot is all....laugh And US will correct and move forward, just you wait and see....bigsmile

waving (((you))):tongue:

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 02/07/12 06:01 AM


~heavy sigh~

Obama destroyed America and the next guy is gonna fix it.

yea, ok indifferent


America is not destroyed, far from it...Obama gave it his best shot is all....laugh And US will correct and move forward, just you wait and see....bigsmile

waving (((you))):tongue:


Morning Leigh flowerforyou

We need a sarcasm emoticon.....

We are absolutely going to move forward, that I agree with.
Methinks we prolly have different views on how that will happen,
it will happen.

no photo
Tue 02/07/12 06:04 AM



~heavy sigh~

Obama destroyed America and the next guy is gonna fix it.

yea, ok indifferent


America is not destroyed, far from it...Obama gave it his best shot is all....laugh And US will correct and move forward, just you wait and see....bigsmile

waving (((you))):tongue:


Morning Leigh flowerforyou

We need a sarcasm emoticon.....

We are absolutely going to move forward, that I agree with.
Methinks we prolly have different views on how that will happen,
it will happen.


Thing about me is, as long as it happens, I'm good...And, if I am wrong, will be the first to eat TWO humble pies....ill

flowers

BUY AMERICAN!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 02/07/12 06:10 AM




~heavy sigh~

Obama destroyed America and the next guy is gonna fix it.

yea, ok indifferent


America is not destroyed, far from it...Obama gave it his best shot is all....laugh And US will correct and move forward, just you wait and see....bigsmile

waving (((you))):tongue:


Morning Leigh flowerforyou

We need a sarcasm emoticon.....

We are absolutely going to move forward, that I agree with.
Methinks we prolly have different views on how that will happen,
it will happen.


Thing about me is, as long as it happens, I'm good...And, if I am wrong, will be the first to eat TWO humble pies....ill

flowers

BUY AMERICAN!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:


Humble pie hurts going down...
I'm willing to eat my share.

Buying american is always the best way. They make it hard when
fuji film is 3 bucks cheaper than kodack, so to speak.

Yea, I hear ya!

willing2's photo
Tue 02/07/12 06:17 AM
Any part of a "War Zone" runs the risk of being fired upon.
I reckon, if a mortar is fired at an area that Hussein deems safe, the troops will get paid the few seconds of hazard pay it takes for the mortar to get there.

He's saving us so much money, guess we could give all the politicians another big raise.

Oh, I forgot. They don't have to ask for raises, they just vote themselves increases.

no photo
Tue 02/07/12 06:30 AM

Any part of a "War Zone" runs the risk of being fired upon.
I reckon, if a mortar is fired at an area that Hussein deems safe, the troops will get paid the few seconds of hazard pay it takes for the mortar to get there.

He's saving us so much money, guess we could give all the politicians another big raise.

Oh, I forgot. They don't have to ask for raises, they just vote themselves increases.


Right on all counts.....!!!

What price a life eh?.....Guess for some it depends on WHO's life it is...My nephew is coming home in March...thank you GOD.!!...he tells me things...it's all hazardous, all of it....

willing2's photo
Tue 02/07/12 06:42 AM
Next, they will have to present the spent bullets that they claim were fired at them to get reimbursed Hazard Pay.

I can see it. The raghead is toting a bazooka and aims it at a group of troops. They actually have to wait til the dude fires at them before they can kill him.

Makes sense. He could have just found it on the street and was wanting to turn it in, right?

Seakolony's photo
Tue 02/07/12 06:53 AM





~heavy sigh~

Obama destroyed America and the next guy is gonna fix it.

yea, ok indifferent


America is not destroyed, far from it...Obama gave it his best shot is all....laugh And US will correct and move forward, just you wait and see....bigsmile

waving (((you))):tongue:


Morning Leigh flowerforyou

We need a sarcasm emoticon.....

We are absolutely going to move forward, that I agree with.
Methinks we prolly have different views on how that will happen,
it will happen.


Thing about me is, as long as it happens, I'm good...And, if I am wrong, will be the first to eat TWO humble pies....ill

flowers

BUY AMERICAN!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:


Humble pie hurts going down...
I'm willing to eat my share.

Buying american is always the best way. They make it hard when
fuji film is 3 bucks cheaper than kodack, so to speak.

Yea, I hear ya!


http://photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00CC15

Shop at BJ's, Kmart and Sears put Sam's Club and Walmart out of business

no photo
Tue 02/07/12 07:07 AM

Next, they will have to present the spent bullets that they claim were fired at them to get reimbursed Hazard Pay.

I can see it. The raghead is toting a bazooka and aims it at a group of troops. They actually have to wait til the dude fires at them before they can kill him.

Makes sense. He could have just found it on the street and was wanting to turn it in, right?


Right...grumble

msharmony's photo
Tue 02/07/12 09:05 AM


President Obama’s latest policy outrage makes no attempt to hide his contempt for our military, as he is ordering that our troops serving overseas in war zones overseas are not to receive combat pay unless they are being shot at. A Marine who lives in Florida has just posted a note on Facebook which stated that he received a letter from his PayPal account that he would only be receiving his Hazard pay (Imminent Danger Pay) if he is actually in a hostile area and at risk of being shot at.

So I just got a letter from MyPay (the way we get paid in the military), saying that I will only reason Combat Pay while deployed for the days that I take fire or am in a hostile area. Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone…it may not always be popping off, but for them to take that away from us is bullshitt. Now, the aviation tech who sits on Camp Leatherneck, sure, I can see him not getting Combat Pay, but to take it away from the grunts, the ground pounders, the front line of defense…come on, Uncle Sam. You let the Liberals win a big one here… Florida Marine Corp Soldier (We are not posting his name for obvious reasons)

According to Military.com, as of February 1, 2012, this new measure went into effect, and soldiers who are to received the additional $225/mo. combat pay ‘must’ must be in immediate risk of harm. The measure is very specific in its criteria for receiving the additonal pay.

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

*Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or

*On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.

The last bullet point speaks volumes as to the sheer stupidity of this measure. The whole point of going to Afghanistan and Iraq was for combat operations- Afghanistan still is a hostile warzone, and both U.S. and NATO forces continue to suffer losses in and out of combat hot zones. Insurgent attacks have accured throughout areas that have been deemed ‘safe’, and in areas where hostilities were not forseen.

http://patdollard.com/2012/02/obama-pulls-combat-pay-for-u-s-troops/


Wow, just wow. If they are in Afganistan or Iraq they should get hazard pay. There isn't a day that goes by that a service member isn't shot at or RPG's fired at their bases PLUS all of the mines and IED's in the area. If thats not worth combat pay then I dont know what is.

I also thought their hazard pay was a lot more then $225.00 a month. That is outrageous, it should be a lot more then that. Barry is basically saying each member of the military isn't even woth the $225.00 they are supposed to get paid.

Leave it to Barry to put a dollar amount on a mans life then screw him out of it. Right there Barry is saying that our men and women arn't worth $225.00 a month.

I think this might be payback to the members of the military since barely anyone in the military supports him. Leave it to Barry to screw the brave men and women who are selflessly serving their country fighting an enemy like we have never even fsced before. An enemy that voilates every rule there is.



I love this omniscient knowledge about the experience of every soldier

another perspective , from an ACTUAL soldier, written in the spring of last year,,,:wink:

like I mentioned months earlier, everyone will scream smaller government, until it comes time for something THEY depend upon to be cut,,,,,and then they scream 'nooone cares about me'

thank goodness this soldier is not one of those people

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-didnt-deserve-my-combat-pay/2011/03/07/ABb6iqm_story.html




msharmony's photo
Tue 02/07/12 09:09 AM

Any part of a "War Zone" runs the risk of being fired upon.
I reckon, if a mortar is fired at an area that Hussein deems safe, the troops will get paid the few seconds of hazard pay it takes for the mortar to get there.

He's saving us so much money, guess we could give all the politicians another big raise.

Oh, I forgot. They don't have to ask for raises, they just vote themselves increases.



On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines


A combat zone is any area the President of the United States designates by Executive Order as an area in which the U.S. Armed Forces are engaging or have engaged in combat


seems like those in COMBAT zones would be receiving their pay,,,,

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Tue 02/07/12 09:15 AM
I find it odd that the guy in the OP, who is in Florida, is finding out from paypal when he'd be receiving his hazard pay.

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