so,, hazardous duty pay will only be paid when performing hazardous duty?



ur joking,,,,

As far as I'm concerned when your in a war zone you are entitled to hazard pay, not just when your in a fire fight. This hack has no business being in the white house or even the city council for that matter.

President Obama’s latest policy outrage makes no attempt to hide his contempt for our military, as he is ordering that our troops serving overseas in war zones overseas are not to receive combat pay unless they are being shot at. A Marine who lives in Florida has just posted a note on Facebook which stated that he received a letter from his PayPal account that he would only be receiving his Hazard pay (Imminent Danger Pay) if he is actually in a hostile area and at risk of being shot at.

So I just got a letter from MyPay (the way we get paid in the military), saying that I will only reason Combat Pay while deployed for the days that I take fire or am in a hostile area. Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone…it may not always be popping off, but for them to take that away from us is bullshitt. Now, the aviation tech who sits on Camp Leatherneck, sure, I can see him not getting Combat Pay, but to take it away from the grunts, the ground pounders, the front line of defense…come on, Uncle Sam. You let the Liberals win a big one here… Florida Marine Corp Soldier (We are not posting his name for obvious reasons)

According to Military.com, as of February 1, 2012, this new measure went into effect, and soldiers who are to received the additional $225/mo. combat pay ‘must’ must be in immediate risk of harm. The measure is very specific in its criteria for receiving the additonal pay.

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

*Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;

*Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or

*On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.

The last bullet point speaks volumes as to the sheer stupidity of this measure. The whole point of going to Afghanistan and Iraq was for combat operations- Afghanistan still is a hostile warzone, and both U.S. and NATO forces continue to suffer losses in and out of combat hot zones. Insurgent attacks have accured throughout areas that have been deemed ‘safe’, and in areas where hostilities were not forseen.

http://patdollard.com/2012/02/obama-pulls-combat-pay-for-u-s-troops/

how is designating combat pay as only for those in actual combat,, similar to a draft?

these men are ALREADY signed on and agreeing to go by the conditions of the military......

It sets a tone, leaves a bad taste, makes a volunteer wonder what it is he is volunteering for if he feels like his life is not placed in high esteem, if he feels like he is not appreciated for what he is giving to his country...and lots more, but you get the point....

I dont know why he would feel ANY of that. Those in combat get a little bit more than those who arent, just like an executive assistant gets paid a bit more than a receptionist,, it doesnt mean the latter isnt appreciated too.

All this does is address the occasional wasted expense when a full month of pay is given to someone who has only done that 'job'
a few days out of that month. I wouldnt feel entitled to get paid the same as someone in combat the whole month of february if I had only been there a few days,, why should I?

I think its making a mountain out of a mole hill and its a reasonable move to tighten the budget a slight bit more,,, every little helps.

for those who want a little more detail of what the change actually is,,the FULL description is here

http://paycheck-chronicles.military.com/2012/02/07/imminent-danger-pay-changes/

there are many letters there with no specific tie as to what they are responding too

BAH is housing allowance and nothing to do with combat pay
The change in combat pay is not equivalent to a pay 'freeze'

but its not about what concerns us,, its about what is defined by the military and agreed to by its recruits

and combat pay isnt about 'war zones' or it might be called war zone pay

its about 'combat'

as defined by the NAVY
A combat zone is any area the President of the United States designates by Executive Order as an area in which the U.S. Armed Forces are engaging or have engaged in combat


which troops are ENGAGED or HAVE ENGAGED in combat,,,

Anymore when I hear young people talk about joining I try to talk them out of it, when congress gets a clue things might be different but as long as you have people who never served on the battlefield a day in their life calling the shots I will try to talk kids out of it.

As far as I'm concerned when your in a war zone you are entitled to hazard pay, not just when your in a fire fight. This hack has no business being in the white house or even the city council for that matter.

He has no business even being a tour guide at the White House.

Combat pay goes hand in hand with all the military cuts Obama admin is CONSTANTLY talking about...and the combatants have families!....they live in houses!.....they need to live somewhere and somehow while their husbands and fathers are giving to their country, risking their lives, sacrificing their lives.....

The military is run by a bunch of tight assed ******* who are more concerned with global opinion than the safety of those who have the guts to go into combat. When you are in a war zone you are always under threat of missiles, bombs and enemy fire.

the stated policy says nothing about housing allowance,,,

This, this is what I am talking about Harmony, attitude, poor attitude...what I mean when I say conscription will return if Obama keeps up his indifference to country.....People are sick of it and rightly so....