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Ummmm, actually im not trying to wind you up. Sinn Fein is nothing more then the mouth piece and political arm of the IRA and Ira affiliated groups and Gerry Adams himself is a leader in the IRA as was his father. Sinn Fein are part of The Northern Ireland Governing Body. There is No IRA And to cover another of your posts. The war is over and in a war as you well know there are combatants. I'm sorry the PIRA. |
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Ummmm, actually im not trying to wind you up. Sinn Fein is nothing more then the mouth piece and political arm of the IRA and Ira affiliated groups and Gerry Adams himself is a leader in the IRA as was his father. Sinn Fein are part of The Northern Ireland Governing Body. There is No IRA And to cover another of your posts. The war is over and in a war as you well know there are combatants. The organisation remains classified as a proscribed terrorist group in the UK and as an illegal organisation in the Republic of Ireland. Two small groups split from the Provisional IRA, first in 1986 (Continuity IRA) and then in 1997 (Real IRA). Both reject the Belfast Agreement and continue to engage in direct paramilitary action. At the end of March 2010, SDLP MLA Dominic Bradley said that the IRA were still active and that they had been responsible for a number of incidents in his constituency including a punishment shooting and an armed robbery during which a shot was fired.[138] In August 2010, the 32 County Sovereignty Movement, the Republican Network for Unity and the UPRG, claimed that the IRA were responsible for a shooting incident in the Gobnascale area of Derry. It is claimed that up to 20 masked men, some armed with handguns, attacked a group of teenagers who were engaging in anti-social behaviour at an interface area. A number of the teenagers were attacked and shots were fired into the air. The men are then reported to have removed their masks when the PSNI arrived and were subsequently identified as members of the Republican Movement. Sinn Féin denied the IRA were involved. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIRA |
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Sat 02/04/12 02:09 AM
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I am not avoiding you LP but I have a very important engagement today.
I will get back to you We haven't gone away you know... ![]() ![]() ![]() tiocfaidh ar la....... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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smart2009
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Sat 02/04/12 04:21 AM
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The Real IRA's founder, Michael McKevitt, has lost his appeal against a historic civil case ruling that held him responsible for the Omagh bomb atrocity in 1998.
The court of appeal in Northern Ireland upheld the 2009 ruling against McKevitt and fellow Real IRA figure Liam Campbell . But in a mixed day for the Omagh victims'families, the judge in the Belfast court directed a civil retrial of the claims against Colm Murphy, and Seamus Daly's appeal has been allowed. The court will hear arguments for a retrial. In 2009, a judge found the men liable for the single biggest massacre of the Ulster Troubles, awarding £1.6m damages to some of the families'victims. That decision opened the way for the victims of other terrorist atrocities in Ireland and overseas to consider taking civil legal action against armed groups responsible for their injuries or relatives'deaths. Twenty-nine people and a pair of unborn twins were killed when the Real IRA car bomb exploded in the County Tyrone town in August 1998. Lawyers for the families had also appealed against the compensation awarded. They said it should have been more because of the scale of the outrage. The 12 relatives who took the 2009 case were told by the court that the £1.6m figure awarded to them would not be increased. No one has ever been convicted in a criminal court of causing the deaths of the Omagh victims. The only man to face criminal charges over the Omagh killings, Sean Hoey from Jonesborough in south Armagh, was acquitted in 2007. None of the men being sued has the capacity to make any kind of large-scale payment. From the start the families made clear the civil action was a vehicle for putting as much information as possible into the public domain about the bombing and the men they claim were involved. In his 2009 ruling, Mr Justice Morgan also found the dissident republican organisation the Real IRA liable for the bomb. He said it was clear that the bombers'primary objective was to ensure that the bomb exploded without detection, and the safety of those members of the public in Omagh town centre was at best a secondary consideration. He said he was"satisfied that those involved in the planning, preparation, planting and detonation of the bomb recognised the likelihood of serious injury or death from its detonation but decided to take that risk". McKevitt founded the Real IRA in November 1997 following a split within the Provisional IRA (PIRA) over the terms of Sinn Féin's entry into party talks that led to the Good Friday agreement in 1998. He was at one time the PIRA's quarter-master general – effectively the man in charge of their secret arsenal of weapons. McKevitt is also the brother-in-law of the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands. His wife, Bernadette, Sands's sister, has denounced the Sinn Féin peace strategy and claimed it was a betrayal of what her brother died for in the Maze prison in 1981. |
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smart2009
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Sat 02/04/12 04:25 AM
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Did Northern Ireland's Catholics get anything they wanted? Northern Ireland, after all, still belongs to the Queen.
no one was satisfied with the power-sharing agreement that technically gives the province's Catholics as much say in governmentas the Protestants. And one of the biggest problems for Northern Irish Catholics is unemployment. Who knows, one day they could pick up a gun. People get tired of fighting, they settle for less, or put down their guns when they realize it just isn't worth it. |
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Source: Plans to turn over Taliban Gitmo detainees in works By Catherine Herridge Published February 02, 2012 WASHINGTON – The Obama administration has taken “operational steps” to move five Taliban leaders from Guantanamo Bay as part of a confidence-building measure to further peace talks with the Afghan Taliban – a development that comes in advance of a hearing Thursday where senior intelligence officials will testify on national security threats, a senior congressional official told Fox News. The five detainees were said to be "hand-picked" by the Taliban preparing for the talks. The Taliban transfer issue will be a significant focus of the hearing on worldwide threats. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said ahead of the hearing that the administration’s efforts to talk with the Afghan Taliban smack of “desperation.” “Candidly, I don’t like the direction they are going in (with) reconciliation,” Rogers said. “I base it on the things that I know about how the Taliban works. The tribal relations in the region, and I’ve been on the committee for six years looking at this stuff ... it seems like a bit of desperation to try to catch up to their policy of ‘we’re getting out.’” As for the administration’s prisoner transfer plan, the senior congressional official who spoke to Fox News on the condition of anonymity confirmed money had been spent to send the men, as part of the current strategy, to a third country. The official added that the administration tried to tamp down concern by saying they would not swap all five Taliban leaders at once; rather, three now and the others later. “They (the administration) have taken operational steps to make it happen," the source said. On Wednesday, Defense Secretary Panetta said the U.S. could end its formal combat role in Afghanistan 18 months from now. Rogers told Fox News that the Obama administration has put the cart before the horse in an effort to meet its political objectives. Prisoner swaps are usually dealt with after the peace terms are settled. Given the U.S. wants to be out of Afghanistan altogether by the end of 2014, the Taliban is in no hurry to negotiate... Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/01/source-plans-to-turn-over-gitmo-detainees-in-works/#ixzz1lEbYlLxG In the annuals of war, this would be considered unwise. in the annals of anything it will be considered that Obama does not know what he is doing - his loyalty to this country has always been questionable however - so maybe he knows exactly what he is doing OR they're taking them to a neutral location so that we can no longer be blamed for what happens to them...... in otherwords they were actually quite fortunate to be in prison in American jusrisdiction.....scary |
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Did Northern Ireland's Catholics get anything they wanted? Northern Ireland, after all, still belongs to the Queen. no one was satisfied with the power-sharing agreement that technically gives the province's Catholics as much say in governmentas the Protestants. And one of the biggest problems for Northern Irish Catholics is unemployment. Who knows, one day they could pick up a gun. People get tired of fighting, they settle for less, or put down their guns when they realize it just isn't worth it. when did they put the guns down? |
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Ummmm, actually im not trying to wind you up. Sinn Fein is nothing more then the mouth piece and political arm of the IRA and Ira affiliated groups and Gerry Adams himself is a leader in the IRA as was his father. Sinn Fein are part of The Northern Ireland Governing Body. There is No IRA And to cover another of your posts. The war is over and in a war as you well know there are combatants. I'm sorry the PIRA. there will always be IRA- there will always be Irish for Ireland....somewhere - many are here |
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AdventureBegins
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Source: Plans to turn over Taliban Gitmo detainees in works By Catherine Herridge Published February 02, 2012 WASHINGTON – The Obama administration has taken “operational steps” to move five Taliban leaders from Guantanamo Bay as part of a confidence-building measure to further peace talks with the Afghan Taliban – a development that comes in advance of a hearing Thursday where senior intelligence officials will testify on national security threats, a senior congressional official told Fox News. The five detainees were said to be "hand-picked" by the Taliban preparing for the talks. The Taliban transfer issue will be a significant focus of the hearing on worldwide threats. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said ahead of the hearing that the administration’s efforts to talk with the Afghan Taliban smack of “desperation.” “Candidly, I don’t like the direction they are going in (with) reconciliation,” Rogers said. “I base it on the things that I know about how the Taliban works. The tribal relations in the region, and I’ve been on the committee for six years looking at this stuff ... it seems like a bit of desperation to try to catch up to their policy of ‘we’re getting out.’” As for the administration’s prisoner transfer plan, the senior congressional official who spoke to Fox News on the condition of anonymity confirmed money had been spent to send the men, as part of the current strategy, to a third country. The official added that the administration tried to tamp down concern by saying they would not swap all five Taliban leaders at once; rather, three now and the others later. “They (the administration) have taken operational steps to make it happen," the source said. On Wednesday, Defense Secretary Panetta said the U.S. could end its formal combat role in Afghanistan 18 months from now. Rogers told Fox News that the Obama administration has put the cart before the horse in an effort to meet its political objectives. Prisoner swaps are usually dealt with after the peace terms are settled. Given the U.S. wants to be out of Afghanistan altogether by the end of 2014, the Taliban is in no hurry to negotiate... Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/01/source-plans-to-turn-over-gitmo-detainees-in-works/#ixzz1lEbYlLxG In the annuals of war, this would be considered unwise. Since we are doing somethine that we have NEVER done before(Negotiating with terrorists), I don't see them releasing the couple US Soldiers they have held prisoner for the past couple years. Poppycock. We are negotiating with a registered combatant in a war zone (the Taliban) not a terrorist organization (such as Al-Q). and for those of you that claim the President put the 'cart before the horse'... Not in this case. For honrable peace to become possible combatant prisoners must be relesased on all sides. War comes in a series of steps (most of them stupid ones). Peace then needs also a series of steps. Reading the book is not 'studing Islam'. There can be peace with Islam. Peace comes from God. Islam does also. Actually the Taliban is declared a Terrorist orginization by several countries. Yep. and if you cherry pick the countries. so have we. GB, Canada, FRG, ... I'm sure you get the point. In order to make war possible one must paint the enemy as a target (even if the weapons are words and the 'paint' but a label). |
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