Not the Topic Con the posts leading up to your remark the USofA

Now I am going to Luxuriate for an Hour in a Bath of Bubbles so I will see you later..


Got to Clear the pile of Dirty Laundry out of the way first.

What about the bombings in 2009?

Since we are doing somethine that we have NEVER done before(Negotiating with terrorists), I don't see them releasing the couple US Soldiers they have held prisoner for the past couple years.

Who? Gerry Adams?

She made him starve to death? He was a punk and a terrorist and deserved to die.

If I were to become President I would get Sinn Fein designated as the terrorist orginization they are and get sanctions put on them.

Awwwww, I was hoping we could talk a little bit more before I have to go to work. We may have differant opinions but the topic of the IRA and Ireland Independance really has me interested and would be nice to BS with someone from there about it whos lived through it.

yep,your Computer is definitely broken!

If you really think like that I suggest that you get treatment for it..

Now I know that you are trying to wind me up....



Look forward to it but it could get messy....

Poppycock.

We are negotiating with a registered combatant in a war zone (the Taliban) not a terrorist organization (such as Al-Q).

and for those of you that claim the President put the 'cart before the horse'...

Not in this case.

For honrable peace to become possible combatant prisoners must be relesased on all sides.

War comes in a series of steps (most of them stupid ones).

Peace then needs also a series of steps.

Reading the book is not 'studing Islam'.

There can be peace with Islam. Peace comes from God. Islam does also.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made news Wednesday when he said the combat role for U.S. troops in Afghanistan could end next year instead of 2014. On Thursday, he took a step back -- insisting U.S. forces will remain combat ready -- even as they transition into their new role of training Afghan troops.

Another part of the U.S. strategy involves getting the Taliban to hold peace talks with the Afghan government. CBS News correspondent Clarissa Ward spoke with some top Taliban representatives where they live in Pakistan.

They call Sami ul Haq the "Father of the Taliban," one of Pakistan's most well-known and hard-line Islamists.

Ward visited ul Haq at his religious school near the Afghan border. Many Afghan Taliban leaders and fighters studied there, earning it the nickname the "University of Jihad."

Ul Haq said that top Taliban figures are receptive to the idea of peace talks, but that three key conditions must be met first: The Americans must leave Afghanistan, he told Ward. Secondly, Taliban leaders should be released from Guantonamo. The third demand is there should be no outside interference in Afghanistan.

It's unlikely that American negotiators will accept these terms, though a release of some prisoners from Guantanamo Bay has been discussed.
While some elements of the Taliban's leadership may be supportive of peace talks, there are clear signs that divisions exist within the group. Many of the younger, more militant foot soldiers insisting that they are not ready to stop fighting.

At a small guesthouse on the outskirts of Islamabad, CBS News had the rare chance to sit down with a young Taliban commander from Helmand province. For security reasons, he asked that his face be not shown.

"If these talks in Doha are successful and Taliban leaders tell you and your fighters to put down your arms, will you do it?" asked Ward.

"No, it will not happen," he said. "And those who are talking to the political wing of the Taliban should understand that real peace is only possible by talking to the ground fighters."

"So the bottom line is you're not willing to compromise, you're not willing to collaborate? Is there any chance of peace?"

"If the Afghan government announced tomorrow that strict Islamic law would be reinstated, we would accept that," he said, "but those in power now will never go along with that."

For the moment, there is a huge gulf between what the Taliban and their backers want and what America would be willing to accept.

Ummmm, actually im not trying to wind you up. Sinn Fein is nothing more then the mouth piece and political arm of the IRA and Ira affiliated groups and Gerry Adams himself is a leader in the IRA as was his father.

Actually the Taliban is declared a Terrorist orginization by several countries.

Provisional IRA activityIn 1972, Sands joined the Provisional IRA.[13] He was arrested and charged in October 1972 with possession of four handguns which were found in the house where he was staying. Sands was convicted in April 1973 sentenced to five years' imprisonment and released in April 1976.[14][15]

On his release from prison in 1976, he returned to his family home in West Belfast, and resumed his active role in the Provisional IRA's campaign. He was charged with involvement in the October 1976 bombing of the Balmoral Furniture Company in Dunmurry, although he was never convicted of this charge with the presiding judge stating that there was no evidence to support the assertion that he had taken part. After the bombing, Sands and at least five others were alleged to have been involved in a gun battle with the Royal Ulster Constabulary, although he was not convicted due to lack of evidence. Leaving behind two of their wounded friends, Seamus Martin and Gabriel Corbett, Sands, Joe McDonnell, Seamus Finucane and Sean Lavery tried to make their escape in a car, but were apprehended. Later, one of the revolvers used in the attack was found in the car in which Sands had been travelling. His trial in September 1977 saw him being convicted of possession of firearms (the revolver from which the prosecution alleged bullets had been fired at the RUC after the bombing) and Sands was sentenced to 14 years' imprisonment within HM Prison Maze, also known as Long Kesh.

Immediately after his sentence he was implicated in a ruckus and spent the first 22 days on boards in Crumlin Road Prison, 15 days naked, and a No. 1 starvation diet every 3 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands#Provisional_IRA_activity

The dude was a CONVICTED terrorist.

Hell, Sands own sister couldn't attend his funeral because she herself was on the run because she was also a terrorist and part of the IRA and was wanted. Her and her husband have been convicted of terrorism related crimes.

Their whole family is a bunch if winners.

Soldier shot 40 years ago by IRA was helped, not mugged, by locals.
A police investigation has found that locals in west Belfast aided a dying British soldier in 1971 who had been shotby the IRA, finally contradicting reports that they were trying to mug him as he lay mortally wounded.
On Friday, the family of Private Paul Carter thanked the local people who tried to save his lifemore than four decades ago. The soldier was shot by the IRA on the Falls Road. Following theshooting, his relatives were told that attempts were made to steal his rifle as he was dying from his wounds.
But a historical enquiriesteam (HET) investigationhas revealed that people on the Falls Road ran to help him, risking their own lives in the process.
The HET report concluded: "Two men, who were close by, ran down the road to where Private Carter was lying and carried him to the casualty building inside the hospital. As they were doing so, they heard a second burst of gunfire but continued tocarry Private Carter to safety."
The report was welcomed by Carter's family, who live in Brighton.
His sister, Trudie Baker, said: "We were told that somebody tried to take his rifle from him while he lying, bleeding to death. That was not true.
"The way it was told to us, he was on his own, and that wasn't the case.He wasn't just left to die.To me that has made a huge, huge difference. To find that somebody wanted to help him, anda lot of people did, that was just invaluable for me."
She added: "We tried as a family to find out what had happened. We spoke to the regiment about what had happened and basically it was always a bit of a brick wall. 'Well, he died while on duty,' they said.
"Yeah, of course he did. But every family needs to know the circumstances around that. For instance we wanted to know whether he had body armour. He didn't have body armour. The historical enquiries teamfound that out for us."
The HET, which was set up at the end of 2005 to re-examine all of the deaths in Northern Ireland during the Troubles – police officers, paramilitaries, civilians and soldiers – has investigated around 2,000 cases.
As with thousands of murders and other crimes during the Troubles, no one was ever convicted of Carter's killing outside Belfast Royal Victoria hospital on 14 September 1971. He wasone of more than 200 soldiers shot dead between 1971 and 1973, the bloodiest years of Ulster's Troubles.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/feb/02/soldier-shot-ira-helped-mugged

Double Ditto!

Ummmm, actually im not trying to wind you up. Sinn Fein is nothing more then the mouth piece and political arm of the IRA and Ira affiliated groups and Gerry Adams himself is a leader in the IRA as was his father.




Sinn Fein are part of The Northern Ireland Governing Body.

There is No IRA


And to cover another of your posts.

The war is over and in a war as you well know there are combatants.

God Save the Queen.