Topic: Obama releasing Captured Taliban Leaders
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Thu 02/02/12 09:25 AM



Any type of peace agreement with Muslims will be short-lived.




There is NO possibility of a peace agreement of any type, because they do not want peace...An agreement must be the objective and desire of both side....

As for putting the cart before the horse, when has Obama not?...It is his approach to everything political...Insuring re-election is his agenda now and screw the cost...
Eggsactly!

But tell that to those Progressives!laugh


That'd be like paddleing up stream after 5 days of hard rain.....:tongue:

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Thu 02/02/12 09:26 AM




Any type of peace agreement with Muslims will be short-lived.




There is NO possibility of a peace agreement of any type, because they do not want peace...An agreement must be the objective and desire of both side....

As for putting the cart before the horse, when has Obama not?...It is his approach to everything political...Insuring re-election is his agenda now and screw the cost...


Bingo!

Ditto!drinker


drinker Cheers......:banana:

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 02/02/12 09:27 AM






Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/02/12 09:27 AM




Any type of peace agreement with Muslims will be short-lived.




There is NO possibility of a peace agreement of any type, because they do not want peace...An agreement must be the objective and desire of both side....

As for putting the cart before the horse, when has Obama not?...It is his approach to everything political...Insuring re-election is his agenda now and screw the cost...
Eggsactly!

But tell that to those Progressives!laugh


That'd be like paddleing up stream after 5 days of hard rain.....:tongue:
you would if you heard Banjos!laugh

no photo
Thu 02/02/12 09:28 AM




Any type of peace agreement with Muslims will be short-lived.




There is NO possibility of a peace agreement of any type, because they do not want peace...An agreement must be the objective and desire of both side....

As for putting the cart before the horse, when has Obama not?...It is his approach to everything political...Insuring re-election is his agenda now and screw the cost...
Eggsactly!

But tell that to those Progressives!laugh


That'd be like paddleing up stream after 5 days of hard rain.....:tongue:


No matter how your spell paddling.....laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/02/12 09:28 AM







Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker
Wish you all the best!:thumbsup:

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Thu 02/02/12 09:29 AM





Any type of peace agreement with Muslims will be short-lived.




There is NO possibility of a peace agreement of any type, because they do not want peace...An agreement must be the objective and desire of both side....

As for putting the cart before the horse, when has Obama not?...It is his approach to everything political...Insuring re-election is his agenda now and screw the cost...
Eggsactly!

But tell that to those Progressives!laugh


That'd be like paddleing up stream after 5 days of hard rain.....:tongue:
you would if you heard Banjos!laugh


Great minds....I was just remembering Deliverance...loved that movie!!!...Reynolds at his best!!:laughing:

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 02/02/12 09:33 AM








Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker
Wish you all the best!:thumbsup:


We will get there it is the natural path...

There is more that unites US than divides US

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/02/12 09:36 AM









Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker
Wish you all the best!:thumbsup:


We will get there it is the natural path...

There is more that unites US than divides US
we're talking about the release of five Taliban-Leaders with Blood on their hands,not what might divide the USofA!

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 02/02/12 09:45 AM










Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker
Wish you all the best!:thumbsup:


We will get there it is the natural path...

There is more that unites US than divides US
we're talking about the release of five Taliban-Leaders with Blood on their hands,not what might divide the USofA!


You are losing the plot Con

Re-check.....drinker


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Thu 02/02/12 09:53 AM
Well, that's is what I'm talking about...releasing "enemy combatants" as a way of bargining for peace talksslaphead Coaxing Taliban into peace speak?slaphead Karzia pouting because Qatar is not keeping him "properly" informedwhoa Afghanistan will assume a "sort" of legal custody over the "enemy combatants" and WITH THEIR PERMISSION consign them to house arrest in Qatar...:laughing:


Congress is right on this one, no release....

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:09 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 02/02/12 10:26 AM











Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker
Wish you all the best!:thumbsup:


We will get there it is the natural path...

There is more that unites US than divides US
we're talking about the release of five Taliban-Leaders with Blood on their hands,not what might divide the USofA!


You are losing the plot Con

Re-check.....drinker


I think you better read the Thread-Title again!laugh

Obama releasing Captured Taliban Leaders

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:10 AM





Any type of peace agreement with Muslims will be short-lived.




There is NO possibility of a peace agreement of any type, because they do not want peace...An agreement must be the objective and desire of both side....

As for putting the cart before the horse, when has Obama not?...It is his approach to everything political...Insuring re-election is his agenda now and screw the cost...
Eggsactly!

But tell that to those Progressives!laugh


That'd be like paddleing up stream after 5 days of hard rain.....:tongue:


No matter how your spell paddling.....laugh
laugh Sweet Banjo-Music!bigsmile

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:11 AM












Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker
Wish you all the best!:thumbsup:


We will get there it is the natural path...

There is more that unites US than divides US
we're talking about the release of five Taliban-Leaders with Blood on their hands,not what might divide the USofA!


You are losing the plot Con

Re-check.....drinker


I think you better read the Thread-Title again!laugh



Just re-check the posts again Con....rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Lpdon's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:16 AM

This is an important issue. Here is the rest of the article.


They understand that the longer they wait, the weaker the U.S. bargaining position gets over time, Rogers said.

The Taliban "are notoriously good at this," Rogers said. "When I say good at it, I mean using any type of negotiation process to re-establish themselves in a better place when it's done."

In a series of classified meetings since the end of last year as well as in a series of letters sent by Reps. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, and Steve King, R-Iowa, the administration was told there was strong bipartisan opposition to the transfer of the Taliban Five from Guantanamo Bay as part of confidence-building measures to engage the Afghan Taliban in peace talks, Rogers said.

Referring to a Senate intelligence hearing Tuesday with senior officials from the administration, Rogers said the contentious debate was now out in the open.

"They said it on the record, yes, that is part of the talks. This is a really bad idea. And we have told them that. And it has been bipartisan. There is no way they could walk out of any of those meetings thinking they had some support coming out of the U.S. Congress."

As part of the Senate hearing, the head of the national counter-terrorism center, Matt Olsen, confirmed that 48 detainees were deemed too dangerous to release during the administration's 2009 review of the Guantanamo Detention camps. The five Taliban detainees are among them.

"The Taliban asked for them specifically,” the senior congressional official said. “These are serious players in their organization. We believe they all have U.S. blood on their hands. And the IC (intelligence community) has determined that all five were too dangerous to be released. The IC did not make that determination based on this exchange. They based it on -- don't give them back ever! "

On Tuesday, the Ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Saxby Chambliss, asked the administration’s top intelligence adviser if he was “comfortable with transferring these individuals out of Guantanamo?"

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper seemed to inadvertently divulge details of the administration’s strategy by stating the men may be sent to a third country as part of the deal.

“For me, the key would be where they would go, the intermediate country that they -- where they might be detained, and the degree to which they would be watched. And that would be the key determinate for me," Clapper said in the Senate hearing.

Rogers said he would press the issue Thursday.





Obama's lack of experience kicks in again.

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:20 AM


This is an important issue. Here is the rest of the article.


They understand that the longer they wait, the weaker the U.S. bargaining position gets over time, Rogers said.

The Taliban "are notoriously good at this," Rogers said. "When I say good at it, I mean using any type of negotiation process to re-establish themselves in a better place when it's done."

In a series of classified meetings since the end of last year as well as in a series of letters sent by Reps. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, and Steve King, R-Iowa, the administration was told there was strong bipartisan opposition to the transfer of the Taliban Five from Guantanamo Bay as part of confidence-building measures to engage the Afghan Taliban in peace talks, Rogers said.

Referring to a Senate intelligence hearing Tuesday with senior officials from the administration, Rogers said the contentious debate was now out in the open.

"They said it on the record, yes, that is part of the talks. This is a really bad idea. And we have told them that. And it has been bipartisan. There is no way they could walk out of any of those meetings thinking they had some support coming out of the U.S. Congress."

As part of the Senate hearing, the head of the national counter-terrorism center, Matt Olsen, confirmed that 48 detainees were deemed too dangerous to release during the administration's 2009 review of the Guantanamo Detention camps. The five Taliban detainees are among them.

"The Taliban asked for them specifically,” the senior congressional official said. “These are serious players in their organization. We believe they all have U.S. blood on their hands. And the IC (intelligence community) has determined that all five were too dangerous to be released. The IC did not make that determination based on this exchange. They based it on -- don't give them back ever! "

On Tuesday, the Ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Saxby Chambliss, asked the administration’s top intelligence adviser if he was “comfortable with transferring these individuals out of Guantanamo?"

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper seemed to inadvertently divulge details of the administration’s strategy by stating the men may be sent to a third country as part of the deal.

“For me, the key would be where they would go, the intermediate country that they -- where they might be detained, and the degree to which they would be watched. And that would be the key determinate for me," Clapper said in the Senate hearing.

Rogers said he would press the issue Thursday.





Obama's lack of experience kicks in again.


I think we should all get behind LP and make him next POTUS...laugh

Lpdon's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:20 AM



Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


Far from peace. The IRA is still out there along with their political wing Sinn Fein.

On yeah, was Bobby Sands one of those prisoners that was freed? whoa

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Thu 02/02/12 10:22 AM


This is an important issue. Here is the rest of the article.


They understand that the longer they wait, the weaker the U.S. bargaining position gets over time, Rogers said.

The Taliban "are notoriously good at this," Rogers said. "When I say good at it, I mean using any type of negotiation process to re-establish themselves in a better place when it's done."

In a series of classified meetings since the end of last year as well as in a series of letters sent by Reps. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, and Steve King, R-Iowa, the administration was told there was strong bipartisan opposition to the transfer of the Taliban Five from Guantanamo Bay as part of confidence-building measures to engage the Afghan Taliban in peace talks, Rogers said.

Referring to a Senate intelligence hearing Tuesday with senior officials from the administration, Rogers said the contentious debate was now out in the open.

"They said it on the record, yes, that is part of the talks. This is a really bad idea. And we have told them that. And it has been bipartisan. There is no way they could walk out of any of those meetings thinking they had some support coming out of the U.S. Congress."

As part of the Senate hearing, the head of the national counter-terrorism center, Matt Olsen, confirmed that 48 detainees were deemed too dangerous to release during the administration's 2009 review of the Guantanamo Detention camps. The five Taliban detainees are among them.

"The Taliban asked for them specifically,” the senior congressional official said. “These are serious players in their organization. We believe they all have U.S. blood on their hands. And the IC (intelligence community) has determined that all five were too dangerous to be released. The IC did not make that determination based on this exchange. They based it on -- don't give them back ever! "

On Tuesday, the Ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Saxby Chambliss, asked the administration’s top intelligence adviser if he was “comfortable with transferring these individuals out of Guantanamo?"

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper seemed to inadvertently divulge details of the administration’s strategy by stating the men may be sent to a third country as part of the deal.

“For me, the key would be where they would go, the intermediate country that they -- where they might be detained, and the degree to which they would be watched. And that would be the key determinate for me," Clapper said in the Senate hearing.

Rogers said he would press the issue Thursday.





Obama's lack of experience kicks in again.


Self serving, Obama swings and misses...


Optomistic69's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:22 AM




Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


Far from peace. The IRA is still out there along with their political wing Sinn Fein.

On yeah, was Bobby Sands one of those prisoners that was freed? whoa


No, that other Terrorist made sure of that..

Margaret Thatcher...laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/02/12 10:27 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 02/02/12 10:28 AM













Wise men act in strange ways.




When you were going through all that reconciliation stuff with the IRA, did Northern Ireland release IRA members that committed attacks?

I don't recall..


Yes all prisoners from "BOTH SIDES" were released.

I might add that an American Gentleman put in a tremendous amount of work to achieve that.

We now have peace in Northern Ireland...drinker


All of them.. Its worked out for you so far..


We ain't never going back Baby...waving

We have been to the mountaintop and we have seen a United Ireland....drinker :banana: drinker
Bet the Brits and the Orangemen are just going to lay down!laugh



Done and Dusted Baby...

In the very near future the unthinkable 10 years ago is now a distinct possibility.

The Allegedly IRA leader could become First Minister.

He who dares wins.....drinker :banana: drinker
Wish you all the best!:thumbsup:


We will get there it is the natural path...

There is more that unites US than divides US
we're talking about the release of five Taliban-Leaders with Blood on their hands,not what might divide the USofA!


You are losing the plot Con

Re-check.....drinker


I think you better read the Thread-Title again!laugh



Just re-check the posts again Con....rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Obama releasing Captured Taliban Leaders

Your Computer can't read!laugh