Topic: ALBINISM
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Thu 02/02/12 05:55 PM
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Topic unlocked. Please discuss the topic, without the personal attacks.

Thank you,
Mark

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Thu 02/02/12 08:59 PM


they also smell and dont see properly in the daytime, they only see very well @ night


Their vision is no better than yours at night, it's just that daylight is painful to their eyes.

Their smell would be influenced by their hygiene, not their albinism. Perhaps they have other things on their mind besides hygiene, like the fact that their neighbors want to kill them because their cow got sick.


Spider is correct. I know of no reason albinism would affect body odor, and am curious if there are any.


because of the african superstitous belief that ALBINOS are spirits or demons?


Albinos are no more spirits or demons than you are. Simply having this ignorant belief is a validation of a horrible form of prejudice.

You can make the world a better place by speaking out against this ignorant superstition, and the disgusting rapes and murders that happen because of it.




That's your biased point of view... Africans have POV's too.
Who are you to say one is better than the other?





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Thu 02/02/12 09:00 PM


That's your biased point of view... Africans have POV's too.
Who are you to say one is better than the other?


The Western POV is that it isn't okay to kill people unless that person poses an immediate danger to your own life. So pretty much anyone with a sense of decency and justice should say the Western POV is better.

The Western POV is that it is never okay to rape a women. Even if she's an albino or an infant and you think that raping her might cure your AIDS. Anyone who respects women would say the Western POV is better.


Oh, he wasn't joking?

"Cultural tolerance" is wrong when you use it as an enabler to rape and murder.



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Thu 02/02/12 09:03 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Thu 02/02/12 09:04 PM



That's your biased point of view... Africans have POV's too.
Who are you to say one is better than the other?


The Western POV is that it isn't okay to kill people unless that person poses an immediate danger to your own life. So pretty much anyone with a sense of decency and justice should say the Western POV is better.

The Western POV is that it is never okay to rape a women. Even if she's an albino or an infant and you think that raping her might cure your AIDS. Anyone who respects women would say the Western POV is better.


Oh, he wasn't joking?

"Cultural tolerance" is wrong when you use it as an enabler to rape and murder.






I reject T's premise that being against bigotry and the murder and rape of people of a different pigmentation is a 'western' point of view. Otherwise I completely agree with Spider.


Many western cultures have a bit of history of bigotry, rape, and murder of people of a different pigmentation.

Many eastern cultures reject these things.


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Thu 02/02/12 11:03 PM


we are here to learn cos its a continous process and people are here passing out insultive comments, anyway that is a perspective and general belief from the african point of view, take it or leave it. i know the caue of ALBINISM, and the varieties. I do my research on the net before posting, and also juggling it with REALITIES, so enough of SHALLOW THINKING.


I only skimmed the comments, but I didn't notice anyone insulting you.

I did see people criticizing certain beliefs.

Please don't take anything I say as a personal attack. Its not directed at you. I know there are people out there that think murdering and eating an albino can cure them of disease. Its disgusting.

It is pure ignorance to think that raping an albino will cure someone of aids.


As ignorant and disgusting as thinking that having sex with a virgin, ANY virgin.. even a toddler, will cure their aids.

But i guess that's off topic.

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Fri 02/03/12 05:18 AM



we are here to learn cos its a continous process and people are here passing out insultive comments, anyway that is a perspective and general belief from the african point of view, take it or leave it. i know the caue of ALBINISM, and the varieties. I do my research on the net before posting, and also juggling it with REALITIES, so enough of SHALLOW THINKING.


I only skimmed the comments, but I didn't notice anyone insulting you.

I did see people criticizing certain beliefs.

Please don't take anything I say as a personal attack. Its not directed at you. I know there are people out there that think murdering and eating an albino can cure them of disease. Its disgusting.

It is pure ignorance to think that raping an albino will cure someone of aids.


As ignorant and disgusting as thinking that having sex with a virgin, ANY virgin.. even a toddler, will cure their aids.

But i guess that's off topic.

The only thing about that is condemning versus relating correct information to enlighten and change. Communicating with another culture over interfering through condemnation. This is what hurts communication between cultures. Our world now reaches farthest reaches of the world through the global village. in considering where and whom we are reaching need to practice tolerance even for that which remain against our own cultures, in order, to communicate factual information for these issues for example:

No Albinos don't stink they bathe too

No Albinos aren't demonic

and

No it doesn't cure aids to sleep with Albinos

Think back to the 1980's and the misconceptions the people of the US had about AIDS. Think about what changed our point of views. Now imagine if wen had treated things differently. 1) not thinking only homosexual males could get it 2) then after females started getting not treating AIDS patients like lepers just a couple to throw out 3) AIDS propelled hate towards homosexuals, hate crimes, etc.

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Fri 02/03/12 07:31 AM




we are here to learn cos its a continous process and people are here passing out insultive comments, anyway that is a perspective and general belief from the african point of view, take it or leave it. i know the caue of ALBINISM, and the varieties. I do my research on the net before posting, and also juggling it with REALITIES, so enough of SHALLOW THINKING.


I only skimmed the comments, but I didn't notice anyone insulting you.

I did see people criticizing certain beliefs.

Please don't take anything I say as a personal attack. Its not directed at you. I know there are people out there that think murdering and eating an albino can cure them of disease. Its disgusting.

It is pure ignorance to think that raping an albino will cure someone of aids.


As ignorant and disgusting as thinking that having sex with a virgin, ANY virgin.. even a toddler, will cure their aids.

But i guess that's off topic.

The only thing about that is condemning versus relating correct information to enlighten and change. Communicating with another culture over interfering through condemnation. This is what hurts communication between cultures. Our world now reaches farthest reaches of the world through the global village. in considering where and whom we are reaching need to practice tolerance even for that which remain against our own cultures, in order, to communicate factual information for these issues for example:

No Albinos don't stink they bathe too

No Albinos aren't demonic

and

No it doesn't cure aids to sleep with Albinos

Think back to the 1980's and the misconceptions the people of the US had about AIDS. Think about what changed our point of views. Now imagine if wen had treated things differently. 1) not thinking only homosexual males could get it 2) then after females started getting not treating AIDS patients like lepers just a couple to throw out 3) AIDS propelled hate towards homosexuals, hate crimes, etc.



we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,

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Fri 02/03/12 07:39 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Fri 02/03/12 07:40 AM

we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,


In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.

Seakolony's photo
Fri 02/03/12 07:52 AM


we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,


In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.


HIV affects many homosexuals, heterosexuals, Latinos, African-Americans, teenagers, babies and elderly now due to Viagra......HIV is a sexually transmitted disease contracted by many populations of people.

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Fri 02/03/12 07:56 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Fri 02/03/12 07:58 AM



we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,


In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.


HIV affects many homosexuals, heterosexuals, Latinos, African-Americans, teenagers, babies and elderly now due to Viagra......HIV is a sexually transmitted disease contracted by many populations of people.


HIV in the United States



MSM = Homosexual (Men who have sex with men)
IDU = Intravenous drug user
You can figure out the rest.

Seakolony's photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:24 AM
Edited by Seakolony on Fri 02/03/12 08:28 AM




we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,


In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.


HIV affects many homosexuals, heterosexuals, Latinos, African-Americans, teenagers, babies and elderly now due to Viagra......HIV is a sexually transmitted disease contracted by many populations of people.


HIV in the United States



MSM = Homosexual (Men who have sex with men)
IDU = Intravenous drug user
You can figure out the rest.

That graph only targets Homosexuals and drug user not every aspect.....

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:26 AM




we are here to learn cos its a continous process and people are here passing out insultive comments, anyway that is a perspective and general belief from the african point of view, take it or leave it. i know the caue of ALBINISM, and the varieties. I do my research on the net before posting, and also juggling it with REALITIES, so enough of SHALLOW THINKING.


I only skimmed the comments, but I didn't notice anyone insulting you.

I did see people criticizing certain beliefs.

Please don't take anything I say as a personal attack. Its not directed at you. I know there are people out there that think murdering and eating an albino can cure them of disease. Its disgusting.

It is pure ignorance to think that raping an albino will cure someone of aids.


As ignorant and disgusting as thinking that having sex with a virgin, ANY virgin.. even a toddler, will cure their aids.

But i guess that's off topic.

The only thing about that is condemning versus relating correct information to enlighten and change. Communicating with another culture over interfering through condemnation. This is what hurts communication between cultures. Our world now reaches farthest reaches of the world through the global village. in considering where and whom we are reaching need to practice tolerance even for that which remain against our own cultures, in order, to communicate factual information for these issues for example:

No Albinos don't stink they bathe too

No Albinos aren't demonic

and

No it doesn't cure aids to sleep with Albinos




This maiming and killing of baby girls to get rid of aids has been and still is on going...there are groups TRYING to help and educate. It isn't stopping.
Condemnation is the only think left at this point, that we can do.

metalwing's photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:29 AM
Aaahhh! Three pages of insanity! Gotta love it!happy

Seakolony's photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:30 AM





we are here to learn cos its a continous process and people are here passing out insultive comments, anyway that is a perspective and general belief from the african point of view, take it or leave it. i know the caue of ALBINISM, and the varieties. I do my research on the net before posting, and also juggling it with REALITIES, so enough of SHALLOW THINKING.


I only skimmed the comments, but I didn't notice anyone insulting you.

I did see people criticizing certain beliefs.

Please don't take anything I say as a personal attack. Its not directed at you. I know there are people out there that think murdering and eating an albino can cure them of disease. Its disgusting.

It is pure ignorance to think that raping an albino will cure someone of aids.


As ignorant and disgusting as thinking that having sex with a virgin, ANY virgin.. even a toddler, will cure their aids.

But i guess that's off topic.

The only thing about that is condemning versus relating correct information to enlighten and change. Communicating with another culture over interfering through condemnation. This is what hurts communication between cultures. Our world now reaches farthest reaches of the world through the global village. in considering where and whom we are reaching need to practice tolerance even for that which remain against our own cultures, in order, to communicate factual information for these issues for example:

No Albinos don't stink they bathe too

No Albinos aren't demonic

and

No it doesn't cure aids to sleep with Albinos




This maiming and killing of baby girls to get rid of aids has been and still is on going...there are groups TRYING to help and educate. It isn't stopping.
Condemnation is the only think left at this point, that we can do.

Not if everyone communicates rather than condemn....exactly how many people actually listen when they are being condemned or told what to do.....zero....how many listen when communicating definitely more than when a person condemns

no photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:32 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Fri 02/03/12 08:33 AM





we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,


In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.


HIV affects many homosexuals, heterosexuals, Latinos, African-Americans, teenagers, babies and elderly now due to Viagra......HIV is a sexually transmitted disease contracted by many populations of people.


HIV in the United States



MSM = Homosexual (Men who have sex with men)
IDU = Intravenous drug user
You can figure out the rest.

That graph only targets Homosexuals and drug user not every aspect.....


Absolutely it covers every aspect. 27% of people with HIV are heterosexual. It's on the graph. That graph is from the CDC. It's sometimes hard to hear the truth, but the bitter truth is better than a sweet lie.

EDIT: The graph doesn't "target" anyone, it's simply information. Information has no agenda.

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:35 AM






we are here to learn cos its a continous process and people are here passing out insultive comments, anyway that is a perspective and general belief from the african point of view, take it or leave it. i know the caue of ALBINISM, and the varieties. I do my research on the net before posting, and also juggling it with REALITIES, so enough of SHALLOW THINKING.


I only skimmed the comments, but I didn't notice anyone insulting you.

I did see people criticizing certain beliefs.

Please don't take anything I say as a personal attack. Its not directed at you. I know there are people out there that think murdering and eating an albino can cure them of disease. Its disgusting.

It is pure ignorance to think that raping an albino will cure someone of aids.


As ignorant and disgusting as thinking that having sex with a virgin, ANY virgin.. even a toddler, will cure their aids.

But i guess that's off topic.

The only thing about that is condemning versus relating correct information to enlighten and change. Communicating with another culture over interfering through condemnation. This is what hurts communication between cultures. Our world now reaches farthest reaches of the world through the global village. in considering where and whom we are reaching need to practice tolerance even for that which remain against our own cultures, in order, to communicate factual information for these issues for example:

No Albinos don't stink they bathe too

No Albinos aren't demonic

and

No it doesn't cure aids to sleep with Albinos




This maiming and killing of baby girls to get rid of aids has been and still is on going...there are groups TRYING to help and educate. It isn't stopping.
Condemnation is the only think left at this point, that we can do.

Not if everyone communicates rather than condemn....exactly how many people actually listen when they are being condemned or told what to do.....zero....how many listen when communicating definitely more than when a person condemns


I hear ya Sea. I'm always throwing new ideas around and getting condemned for them. I get it.
This topic is an on going project of mine. The numbers are staggering and disturbing.
I'm allowed to be pissed over it...
flowerforyou

Seakolony's photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:35 AM
Edited by Seakolony on Fri 02/03/12 08:37 AM






we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,


In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.


HIV affects many homosexuals, heterosexuals, Latinos, African-Americans, teenagers, babies and elderly now due to Viagra......HIV is a sexually transmitted disease contracted by many populations of people.


HIV in the United States



MSM = Homosexual (Men who have sex with men)
IDU = Intravenous drug user
You can figure out the rest.

That graph only targets Homosexuals and drug user not every aspect.....


Absolutely it covers every aspect. 27% of people with HIV are heterosexual. It's on the graph. That graph is from the CDC. It's sometimes hard to hear the truth, but the bitter truth is better than a sweet lie.

Like I said you chose one aspect here is another and there are like 15 more on the CDC website



The larger scale seems to MSM but that doesn't mean its solely MSM everyone needs to be careful......and monogamy helps limit the spread.......if MSM were more monogamous maybe that wouldn't be the case.

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Fri 02/03/12 08:38 AM







we often believe we know everything, AIds is a good example

initially , it WAS primarily in the homosexual community so people considered it a homosexual disease , it hadnt spread so far yet for people to understand how it was actually transmitted could put everyone at risk


we do that all the time with our 'knowledge', we assume that what we know already is all there can possibly be,,,,,and dont leave room for new information,,,,


In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.


HIV affects many homosexuals, heterosexuals, Latinos, African-Americans, teenagers, babies and elderly now due to Viagra......HIV is a sexually transmitted disease contracted by many populations of people.


HIV in the United States



MSM = Homosexual (Men who have sex with men)
IDU = Intravenous drug user
You can figure out the rest.

That graph only targets Homosexuals and drug user not every aspect.....


Absolutely it covers every aspect. 27% of people with HIV are heterosexual. It's on the graph. That graph is from the CDC. It's sometimes hard to hear the truth, but the bitter truth is better than a sweet lie.

Like I said you chose one aspect here is another and there are like 15 more on the CDC website




I'm sure I can find a lot more graphs out there, but I only needed to provide the one to prove my assertion of "In the USA, people with a diagnosis of AIDS are still primarily homosexual men, a drug user or both.". Your graph doesn't refute what I posted, so it's a non-sequitor.

Seakolony's photo
Fri 02/03/12 08:40 AM
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/geographic.htm

And here are further statistics by ethnicity and gender

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Fri 02/03/12 08:40 AM

The larger scale seems to MSM but that doesn't mean its solely MSM everyone needs to be careful......and monogamy helps limit the spread.......if MSM were more monogamous maybe that wouldn't be the case.


Why argue this point? Who said that only homosexual men need to be careful about who they sleep with? WHO?

You are tilting at windmills.