I was replying to the video I watched with Steve drama king Wilkos. Mental disorders are a big deal, I was married to someone with one.
This person appeared to have a MENTAL DISORDER to me.

he did his job well

This is the same person who is on most of the videos. He is a well known pedophile activist who even ran a website on how to be one and not get caught and the best places to go to see children.

Yes he did, and he showed that no matter if it is a mental disorder or not these sickos are a real danger and threat.

mental disorder can often be dangerous,, but is usually treated with a bit less vindictiveness than crime by a sane person

A pedophile and sex offender can NEVER be cured.

I dont believe that.

Stats show that they cant.

I doubt thats possible

You might want to read what former FBI profilers say on this subject since they have the most experience dealing with these creeps.

Ok so here is how I feel on any subject regarding any mental disorder and criminal activity.

If he knows right from wrong, he is responsible for his actions regardless of disorder.

However what we should do is take into account what if anything should be done about his potential for violence, and what to do if he is convicted.

Thankfully we do not arrest people for thought crime, even when our visceral reaction might want that, it would be a mistake.

No thanks, I am more interested in what Science, and Ethics have to say.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2943-brain-tumour-causes-uncontrollable-paedophilia.htmlJust one example of a physiological cause. Which was CURED when the tumor was removed, and when the tumor came back in the same spot, it came back, and when it was removed, it was cured again.

Its all about knowledge, and doing what is best for everyone. In the absence of cause, in the context of a person who knows right from wrong, chances are we would agree on a conclusion.

I've noticed that you are very much an "exception that disproves the rule" kind of guy. Don't you feel that defies logic or do you simply argue these points to be a contrarian?

The rule in question was that all pedophilia cannot be cured, well if the cause is a brain tumor it can. If we can understand, we should understand. Knowing the cause is important.

If a physiological cause of a behavior can be known we should work to achieve that understanding. In the example I cited this man led a good life and these behaviors were very out of character. If it happened to you Im sure you would be grateful for truly objective medical professionals for considering all possible causes and finding the cause was curable.

I do not think pointing this out to add a granularity to the discussion could be seen as contrarian at all.

Did you understand what I meant when I said ^^

Probably not . . .

Its actually pretty funny to me you think I am a contrarian, given that you thought entropy was a way to argue matter would cease to exist.

Well, what your link proves is that pedophilia is incurable, except in extreme cases, with an underlying medical condition. It seems fairly contrarian to argue that it can be cured, because it was cured in one case through brain surgery to remove a tumor.

Wanting children sexually is a mental/sexual disorder and they should get help for it.

Assuming they are incurable is not a positive way to address the issue.

Having been molested as a child, I have had plenty of time to consider why it happened, etc...

I do know the men who molested me were mentally unwell, both of them.

I would never want one of them to be harmed in my name, that would make what I suffered worse.

No legitimate comparison can be made with pedophilia and consensual adult hetero or gay sex though in case that connection was attempted at any point during the thread.

Nice argument, "it is except when it isn't" is just as accurate isn't it? What a silly thing to say Spider . . .lol

Also how do we know if we do not understand the causes?

Is it possible that every case is curable and we just do not yet understand the causes unless they are something like a massive tumor which can be seen in a PET scan?

I think we are in our infancy of understanding human behavior. That in itself should give pause to sweeping conclusions.

Wasn't it you who wrongly accused me of a population sample fallacy not long ago?

Hmmm.

I dont really care what SOME profilers say, IM sure SOME OTHER profilers say something else

I know that every action is a CHOICE and people can choose to change

I dont believe in labels set in stone when it comes to behavior,,,
it may be harder to control weaknesses and overcome temptations , but its a ridiculous statement that it can 'never' happen

no comparison can be made ONLY because of the cultural definitions of 'consent' and 'adult'

Brain tumors dont cause pedophiles.

It seems that in this one case, it did. I think that the size and position of the tumor interfered with the guy's ability to control his impulses. Brain damage has been shown to turn a loving family man into a violent wife beater, I don't see why a tumor would be any different. But I do feel that this is exception and not the rule.