Topic: Attacking the words or the person?
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Mon 07/23/07 08:29 AM
Thank you knoxman, you have it put very well.
Looking at the post and the poster in context is looking like somebody handing out the hymn sheets to the choir and then singing from a totally different one.

flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Mon 07/23/07 09:29 AM
I'm not going to get into the middle of who's right or who's wrong here. All I know is that virtually everyone on this thread has made an attack or derogatory comment about another member at some point, not just Spidercmb. Who's truly innocent in that regard? And at least Spidercmb is trying to do something about it by bringing up the point that we should be focusing on the message, not the messenger.

My only point in posting on this thread was to clarify what our rules would define as an attack on another member. Let's leave it at that. There are a ton of great posters on this site, Spidercmb being one of them, that have valuable insights that you can learn from even if you don't agree with them. But that's only possible if you have a true dialogue with each other, not an argument, and to do that requires an effort on both sides regardless of past differences.

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Mon 07/23/07 03:28 PM
What do you mean, he deactivated LW!!?? What does that mean?? Has it come down to; if someone does not like what we say or stand for...that they have control to deactivate someone?? What is this Grade school? Oh oh oh oh oh oh. It may be time to leave.

Kat

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Mon 07/23/07 03:31 PM
No Kat,

Spidercmb deactivated his account himself, nothing to do with Mike or the Site.

How are you?
Haven't talked to you in ages

flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Mon 07/23/07 03:34 PM
Hi honey. I am good...I think? I have been taking time away from this site for a bit and coming in now and again to just read, and sometimes post. I seem to have got really bored. I am vraving a faster response time to posting. Don't get me wrong...I really like this place, it is just hard to get a communication going. The wait time...you know?

How have you been my friend? It is good to see you again.
Kat

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Mon 07/23/07 03:35 PM
* "craving" a faster...

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Mon 07/23/07 03:39 PM
I'm fine, just not posting as much anymore.

Sometimes one just has to stay back a bit.

Well, I hope that you are really good, it's bedtime here and I'm off.

Hopefully I see you more often now.

yawn yawn flowerforyou

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Mon 07/23/07 03:39 PM
hi kat and andrea
how r u girls?

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Mon 07/23/07 03:41 PM
Kat,

I'm concerned about something you said earlier in this thread, about "attacking" someone's post. Some people, myself included, talk about 'attacking' others words, other's posts, and what we mean is to critique, to argue against, to question. It doesn't mean that we have negative feelings, or are trying to hurt somebody. Just like you said, its okay if people 'debate' other's posts, and thats what we mean by 'attack'.

So I'm wondering if this is just a 'word choice' thing - maybe we are in agreement about debating, but you prefer not to use the word 'attack'. Or, do you feel that when some people debate, they are to aggressive? And I don't mean 'name calling', I mean when people are actually debating the topic - maybe you find people do it too aggressively?

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Mon 07/23/07 03:45 PM
that is what i said in this thread in the general discussion section.
why to use the word attack
debate is more proper.

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Mon 07/23/07 03:55 PM
I saw on here earlier the word "attack" being used. I have seen attacking done many times. But...To me attack means to insult, call names, make trouble or belittle ones words, or thoughts or person.

I am one of the first to love a challenge of thought. To have discussion of or about a topic. As long as it is done in good order. But, to tell someone they are blatently wrong or stupid is wrong in itself. Does that help??

Hi LW!!! Just came in to look. How are ya darlin?
Kat

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Mon 07/23/07 03:59 PM
doing good
trying to find something entertaining around here
what about u?

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Mon 07/23/07 04:04 PM
Kat,

Yes, thank you for explaining.

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Mon 07/23/07 04:32 PM
I'm not having much luck finding anything I am interested in. I stay out of so many of the threads. This one and general are okay. I don't go into the general much either. I am soooo bored! Sometimes the cooking ones.
Kat

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Mon 07/23/07 05:05 PM
we've lost most of the thinkers around here.
there are few, but none of them up to the intelligent debate

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Mon 07/23/07 05:10 PM
Why all the bickering and arguing ???


Cant you just agree that everyone is different, and try to get along ???


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Mon 07/23/07 07:37 PM
Are we bickering?? Hmmmmm.

Well, I am not by no means one of the most intelligent around here. But, I can hold my own in debate of my interest.

Kat

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Mon 07/23/07 07:55 PM
i'm just like u
but i can't find anything that hlods my attention

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Mon 07/23/07 08:16 PM
I don't post because I have nothing to say and there isn't anything interesting here...I prefer debating intelligently and not out right arguing ...if and when I have something to say everyone will hear from me but until then I'll be quiet and stay in the Pub

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Mon 07/23/07 08:22 PM
Hi poet. I've been missing you.
Kat