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How important do you think it is that two people in a relationship share religious beliefs? As you all know, I am tech. Jewish but I, in practice, do what I call the Terri Remix of Religions which is some Judaism, some Christianity esp. Catholicism, and a little Wicca. I am going with a guy who though born Catholic now just identifies as Christian. At this late date, we do not plan to have children. We were both hellions as kids and do not want to be dealing with 20 year old kids similar to us in our sixties so there is no choosing religion for the sake of a child. I do celebrate things like Easter and Christmas. But I do some Judaism like Mezzuzahs on the door posts too and embracing the life cycle. Terry, we are actually a lot alike in our religious beliefs. I always say, "There's Roman Catholicism and then there's Ruth's Catholicism". Mine is basically Catholicism (with a lot of dogma thrown out), a little Eastern mysticism, Paganism (similar to Wicca) and Hoodoo. Oh, and of course some New Agey stuff. |
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c'mon cowboy This thread isn't to fill up with scriptures. He told ya where he posted if ya want to debate him. This thread is an entirely different topic. |
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I stay open to this sort of thing, however a die hard Christian and I are just not going to see eye to eye on some important issues. I've tried and I've found I'm much more allowing in general than they have been. Always comes down to the attempts at saving me because I'm not a christian. There absolutely has to be a spiritual edge...without religious dogma, and that's the tricky part. I've tried and I've found I'm much more allowing in general than they have been. Always comes down to the attempts at saving me because I'm not a christian. I'm sorry to hear this has happened to you. They should not have specifically attempted to "save" you or "convert" you. That is between you and God, if and when you're ready to come to the Lord, you will. But until then you won't, so it would then only cause confrontations between you two if he was to "push" his religious beliefs on you. Secondly this is why the scriptures inform us for believers and none believers not to have that form of relationship with one another. |
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ahhhhh c'mon cowboy This thread isn't to fill up with scriptures. He told ya where he posted if ya want to debate him. This thread is an entirely different topic. Not debating, and the conversation was on this thread, not the other. He just didn't feel like reposting it in this forum, so I spared him the time and did it for him. |
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ahhhhh c'mon cowboy This thread isn't to fill up with scriptures. He told ya where he posted if ya want to debate him. This thread is an entirely different topic. Not debating, and the conversation was on this thread, not the other. He just didn't feel like reposting it in this forum, so I spared him the time and did it for him. This thread is on religious beliefs and how it affects a relationship. Let's stick to that. |
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ahhhhh c'mon cowboy This thread isn't to fill up with scriptures. He told ya where he posted if ya want to debate him. This thread is an entirely different topic. Not debating, and the conversation was on this thread, not the other. He just didn't feel like reposting it in this forum, so I spared him the time and did it for him. This thread is on religious beliefs and how it affects a relationship. Let's stick to that. That is fine with me, sorry was just going with where the topic of the discussing was. |
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..the Bible also tells you that the rich can own slaves and beat them so long as said master doesn't kill them. Also says to beat the 'foolishness' out of your children. ..and the bible even says not to believe the bible. So, I can see why it wouldn't work. Please enlighten us with the verses in mention. ...there already up. Religion thread.. I see your claims of beating the foolishnes out of our children and that the bible says not to believe in the bible. But I see no verses posted to verify these statements. Just because someone makes a statement, doesn't make it true. Not this thread... Jesus not father.. blah. That thread. Too tired to repost it all over again. Ok, here's from the other thread of which you speak of. That whosoever would not seek the Lord God should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." 2 Chronicles 15:13 That is because the only reward for sin is death. Romans 6:23 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. And this what you say would be a sin, as one of our commandments is to love the lord our God. Foolishness is bound to the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." Proverbs 22:15 This is not speaking of a physical rod, it Exodus: 21:17 Let this be a lesson.. don't curse out your mom or dad; because in the eyes of the Lord... you will die. This is because we are to love and honor our parents. It would be a sin to do otherwise eg., cursing them. And again, the only reward for sin is death. Well, aside the fact that this is now in the wrong thread... You forgot the last one. Peter Pan put it up for me. Secondly. This is your interpretation of what it is supposed to mean. However, all is a moot point. Because you are not reading, nor portraying 'Gods' words, you are reiterating man's words. "Poisoned tongues". Lastly... That was my entire point to begin with. Your entire defense as to 'why you believe in his existence' and 'why we have faith' all comes from books written by man; the most corrupt of his creations. I laughed hysterically while Christian's broke out into an uproar over homosexual lovers being permitted to marry. Since King James, one of your most 'cherished' Biblical version editors, was indeed, a bi-sexual. It is a book written in book and seal with treacherous lips. Furthermore... Last I checked. The reward for life,in general, is death. And this is where you say, 'No we are granted eternal life by his side.' ..and I say, 'How could you possibly know this?' ..and once again you'd resort to where in the bible it tells you this. My point, still, remains. You have no arguments or beliefs not constructed by man. Period. I'm not asking you to change your ways, I'm merely asking you.. Help me believe again, cause the God you speak of, and the God I speak of, both originate in the same book built on lies. |
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ahhhhh c'mon cowboy This thread isn't to fill up with scriptures. He told ya where he posted if ya want to debate him. This thread is an entirely different topic. Not debating, and the conversation was on this thread, not the other. He just didn't feel like reposting it in this forum, so I spared him the time and did it for him. This thread is on religious beliefs and how it affects a relationship. Let's stick to that. That is fine with me, sorry was just going with where the topic of the discussing was. On the topic of the thread. I see it unwise for a believer and a none believer to be. Just won't work as religion is a big part of who we are, weather that's none believing or believing. 2 Corinthians 6:14 14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? |
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On the topic of the thread. I see it unwise for a believer and a none believer to be. Just won't work as religion is a big part of who we are, weather that's none believing or believing. 2 Corinthians 6:14 14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? Ask my grandparents. They did it for over 70 years. Just saying. |
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..the Bible also tells you that the rich can own slaves and beat them so long as said master doesn't kill them. Also says to beat the 'foolishness' out of your children. ..and the bible even says not to believe the bible. So, I can see why it wouldn't work. Please enlighten us with the verses in mention. ...there already up. Religion thread.. I see your claims of beating the foolishnes out of our children and that the bible says not to believe in the bible. But I see no verses posted to verify these statements. Just because someone makes a statement, doesn't make it true. Not this thread... Jesus not father.. blah. That thread. Too tired to repost it all over again. Ok, here's from the other thread of which you speak of. That whosoever would not seek the Lord God should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." 2 Chronicles 15:13 That is because the only reward for sin is death. Romans 6:23 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. And this what you say would be a sin, as one of our commandments is to love the lord our God. Foolishness is bound to the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." Proverbs 22:15 This is not speaking of a physical rod, it Exodus: 21:17 Let this be a lesson.. don't curse out your mom or dad; because in the eyes of the Lord... you will die. This is because we are to love and honor our parents. It would be a sin to do otherwise eg., cursing them. And again, the only reward for sin is death. Well, aside the fact that this is now in the wrong thread... You forgot the last one. Peter Pan put it up for me. Secondly. This is your interpretation of what it is supposed to mean. However, all is a moot point. Because you are not reading, nor portraying 'Gods' words, you are reiterating man's words. "Poisoned tongues". Lastly... That was my entire point to begin with. Your entire defense as to 'why you believe in his existence' and 'why we have faith' all comes from books written by man; the most corrupt of his creations. I laughed hysterically while Christian's broke out into an uproar over homosexual lovers being permitted to marry. Since King James, one of your most 'cherished' Biblical version editors, was indeed, a bi-sexual. It is a book written in book and seal with treacherous lips. Furthermore... Last I checked. The reward for life,in general, is death. And this is where you say, 'No we are granted eternal life by his side.' ..and I say, 'How could you possibly know this?' ..and once again you'd resort to where in the bible it tells you this. My point, still, remains. You have no arguments or beliefs not constructed by man. Period. I'm not asking you to change your ways, I'm merely asking you.. Help me believe again, cause the God you speak of, and the God I speak of, both originate in the same book built on lies. That was my entire point to begin with. Your entire defense as to 'why you believe in his existence' and 'why we have faith' all comes from books written by man; the most corrupt of his creations But you are entirely incorect. God is not in a book, one can not find God in a book. And besides that there is no need for a "defence" of anything. Nothing can be proven to someone unless that person is willing to allow it be. Why I believe in his existence you ask? I believe in his existence because I have seen the truth. I see God everywhere I look in everything around. Not because of what some book tells me. The book is merely knowledge of God, it is not God himself. It contains history of our God and future prophecies which are yet to come. |
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On the topic of the thread. I see it unwise for a believer and a none believer to be. Just won't work as religion is a big part of who we are, weather that's none believing or believing. 2 Corinthians 6:14 14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? Ask my grandparents. They did it for over 70 years. Just saying. Really good to hear that :). When it comes to things as such it's not an exact science for every body. As we are all different people that can cope with different things, ect. |
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Thu 01/12/12 06:44 PM
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I don't care what religion anyone is as long as they don't care that I'm not religious. If they're going to judge me for not being religious, they're not someone I would want to be with.
My parents are two different religions. They've been married for 40 years this year. |
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I don't care what religion anyone is as long as they don't care that I'm not religious. If they're going to judge me for not being religious, they're not someone I would want to be with. My parents are two different religions. They've been married for 40 years this year. Very good way of looking at it :) |
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For starters..
I'm not entirely 'incorrect' about that statement. Because you wouldn't 'see' him in 'everything' had you already not had it drilled into your head 'he' existed. Those who 'drive' it home, use a book. Plain and simple. Every week in church, they do the same. Quote this, quote that. It is free of thought. Of individuality. Either way, I'm not arguing this debate here. It's not the proper thread nor place for it; especially since I already know your answers. Hm, maybe that makes me God. Nah, I couldn't abandon my children. Regardless, hama sham. Or whatever. |
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I don't care what religion anyone is as long as they don't care that I'm not religious. If they're going to judge me for not being religious, they're not someone I would want to be with. My parents are two different religions. They've been married for 40 years this year. Very good way of looking at it :) And congradulations on them being married for 40 years :D. That is really great to hear. Again, yes some people can do it, as everyone is different. Some people can cope with other beliefs, some can't. Some people can live with someone of another belief and just let it slide, some can't, ect. But as a general rule, it is unwise to do as such. Not because some book says it or anything like that. Just religion is usually the strongest part of the person, weather that is a belief in a God or not a belief. Or a belief in this God but they believe in that God, ect. But if the two can look past that, it would work out just fine. Just on the general note, people can't look past it. Take for instance, a Christian and a non-Christian. The non-Christian may feel as their spouse looks down on them for their non-belief, or thinks less of them, ect. It could cause differnet little fights on certain things. Could even go as far as making the Christian do less worship in order to please their spous eg., not celebrating Christmas, or any possible number of things. |
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Any person who is a fundamentalist anything is going to have a hard time being married to a non-fundamentalist. My father is a fundamentalist Christian. He was a Presbyterian minister when I was growing up. When my mom couldn't take it anymore, she left. I think she is an atheist. But, she tends to be quiet on the issue.
I think fundamentalist Muslims and Jews would have the same problem. |
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For starters.. I'm not entirely 'incorrect' about that statement. Because you wouldn't 'see' him in 'everything' had you already not had it drilled into your head 'he' existed. Those who 'drive' it home, use a book. Plain and simple. Every week in church, they do the same. Quote this, quote that. It is free of thought. Of individuality. Either way, I'm not arguing this debate here. It's not the proper thread nor place for it; especially since I already know your answers. Hm, maybe that makes me God. Nah, I couldn't abandon my children. Regardless, hama sham. Or whatever. For starters, I really don't know what you're talking about. Nothing has been drilled into my head lol. I came to the Lord on my own, not because my parents took me to church as a child, not because everyone around me believes, or anything of such. Every week in church, they do the same. Quote this, quote that. Whas't your point? Everyday in a school they do the same. Quote this, quote that, and it all comes out of a book. Going to church is similar as to going to school. School we learn the secular knowledge, history, science, math, ect. In church we learn spiritual knowledge, about our Christ, what is to come, ect. |
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Any person who is a fundamentalist anything is going to have a hard time being married to a non-fundamentalist. My father is a fundamentalist Christian. He was a Presbyterian minister when I was growing up. When my mom couldn't take it anymore, she left. I think she is an atheist. But, she tends to be quiet on the issue. I think fundamentalist Muslims and Jews would have the same problem. I'm sorry to hear this. And this is why we are told it to be unwise to be with someone that does not believe as they do themselves. Just for this reason, because again religion plays a huge part of who or what we are, weather it be ahteism, Christian, or other. It molds us to who we are. |
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For starters.. I'm not entirely 'incorrect' about that statement. Because you wouldn't 'see' him in 'everything' had you already not had it drilled into your head 'he' existed. Those who 'drive' it home, use a book. Plain and simple. Every week in church, they do the same. Quote this, quote that. It is free of thought. Of individuality. Either way, I'm not arguing this debate here. It's not the proper thread nor place for it; especially since I already know your answers. Hm, maybe that makes me God. Nah, I couldn't abandon my children. Regardless, hama sham. Or whatever. For starters, I really don't know what you're talking about. Nothing has been drilled into my head lol. I came to the Lord on my own, not because my parents took me to church as a child, not because everyone around me believes, or anything of such. Every week in church, they do the same. Quote this, quote that. Whas't your point? Everyday in a school they do the same. Quote this, quote that, and it all comes out of a book. Going to church is similar as to going to school. School we learn the secular knowledge, history, science, math, ect. In church we learn spiritual knowledge, about our Christ, what is to come, ect. THAT IS MY PROBLEM! School, what they teach you, half of it is a lie. Sheesh... But.. shhhhhh. Not here! |
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THAT IS MY PROBLEM! School, what they teach you, half of it is a lie. Sheesh... But.. shhhhhh. Not here! Like Edison and the light bulb. I'm never gonna get over that. 
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