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Topic: Belief for relief
prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Thu 01/12/12 12:33 AM
I'm vaguely interested in having a serious conversation with you, but it would be helpful if you explained your meaning more thoroughly. Proper grammar can be very helpful. Hell with my english....sorry,I'm very poor at it & u will have to get the work done with my broken english & expressions only Well at this point I don't really care much either way, but going back to the point in the conversation where you said this: So why everyone invented that supernatural power only? If you have a real question that you want to ask me, I'm willing to bite, but you'd have to elaborate on what you really mean first. Well, I wish to say that experience of god by many people at many different places can't be just a fluke,especially when they were not in touch with each other.Even the forest inhabitant communities who don't have any contact or exchange with other world too have strong belief in their god. This would have never happened worldwide if god don't exist.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Thu 01/12/12 01:02 AM
Again,whatever I said isn't a concept about god & I don't consider myself capable enough to have definite concept about god,but I have my ways to believe in god. For the part in italics, yes, okay, whatever, I got the gist of this part of your point the first time you said it. For the part in bold...well thats just wrong. You can make sounds without having a concept behind the sounds, but you cannot even attempt to actually use language for its intended purpose without having concepts behind your attempts at using language. That's fine with learning language & other technics but not with god. No one need to know the concept for believing & experiencing god,it is as natural as respiration. Whatever wisdom level one has achieved,if he is trying to conceptualize god,he is creating one more religion & nothing else. I feel using this word CONCEPT for god as an insult of his unbounded supremacy.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Thu 01/12/12 04:25 AM
So, because many people believe in god, you think that's proof of god? There are many people out there who don't believe in god. Of course, I'm not suggesting that because of that, there's proof there is no god. Many people believing / not believing can't be a proof & I never said so. I said,many human societies ( even those who were not communicating with each other)believed in god since ancient times,so it can't be a fluke. I disagree for the same reason I said before - I've seen no proof. Actually everything that u r able to see around you is a proof of his existence but he has programmed u so that u won't believe him till he wish. You can certainly try to talk people into believing that way, but for me that doesn't work. Well,I'm not trying to make u or anyone else believing in god. As I already said, u hv been programmed to not believe,so it won't work for u untill he wish. So, you think that people are all of the sudden going to change their mind about god? Why?

Shy_Emo_chick Joined Fri 04/01/11 Posts: 4393	Thu 01/12/12 09:14 AM
If i'm being serious, i believe there's SOMETHING, i just haven't figured what. I believe in spiritual stuff, to a certain degree. I'm not religious. So really, that's all i can say about that.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Thu 01/12/12 10:42 AM
So, because many people believe in god, you think that's proof of god? There are many people out there who don't believe in god. Of course, I'm not suggesting that because of that, there's proof there is no god. Many people believing / not believing can't be a proof & I never said so. I said,many human societies ( even those who were not communicating with each other)believed in god since ancient times,so it can't be a fluke. I disagree for the same reason I said before - I've seen no proof. Actually everything that u r able to see around you is a proof of his existence but he has programmed u so that u won't believe him till he wish. You can certainly try to talk people into believing that way, but for me that doesn't work. Well,I'm not trying to make u or anyone else believing in god. As I already said, u hv been programmed to not believe,so it won't work for u untill he wish. So, you think that people are all of the sudden going to change their mind about god? Why? Nop,Why shall I think so?

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Thu 01/12/12 10:48 AM
So, because many people believe in god, you think that's proof of god? There are many people out there who don't believe in god. Of course, I'm not suggesting that because of that, there's proof there is no god. Many people believing / not believing can't be a proof & I never said so. I said,many human societies ( even those who were not communicating with each other)believed in god since ancient times,so it can't be a fluke. I disagree for the same reason I said before - I've seen no proof. Actually everything that u r able to see around you is a proof of his existence but he has programmed u so that u won't believe him till he wish. You can certainly try to talk people into believing that way, but for me that doesn't work. Well,I'm not trying to make u or anyone else believing in god. As I already said, u hv been programmed to not believe,so it won't work for u untill he wish. So, you think that people are all of the sudden going to change their mind about god? Why? Nop,Why shall I think so? Well, that's what you seem to be saying. That someone will wake up one day and say "wow, god is real!" after not believing in god previously, because that's how they were "programmed." I just don't buy it.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Thu 01/12/12 10:53 AM
So, because many people believe in god, you think that's proof of god? There are many people out there who don't believe in god. Of course, I'm not suggesting that because of that, there's proof there is no god. Many people believing / not believing can't be a proof & I never said so. I said,many human societies ( even those who were not communicating with each other)believed in god since ancient times,so it can't be a fluke. I disagree for the same reason I said before - I've seen no proof. Actually everything that u r able to see around you is a proof of his existence but he has programmed u so that u won't believe him till he wish. You can certainly try to talk people into believing that way, but for me that doesn't work. Well,I'm not trying to make u or anyone else believing in god. As I already said, u hv been programmed to not believe,so it won't work for u untill he wish. So, you think that people are all of the sudden going to change their mind about god? Why? Nop,Why shall I think so? Well, that's what you seem to be saying. That someone will wake up one day and say "wow, god is real!" after not believing in god previously, because that's how they were "programmed." I just don't buy it. that's funny.... but quite possible.