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Topic: KEEP INELIGIBLE Barry OFF 2012 ELECTION BALLOTS!
massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Sun 01/08/12 09:40 PM
This whole debate is founded on the notion that Obama's birth certificate was forged. It has been reviewed time and time again, and been determined to be authentic. However, claims of forgery still persist. Therefore, this issue will never be resolved because one side refuses to accept that the document is genuine. So long as Obama was born in Hawaii, the whole discussion is moot. His father's status is of no consequence. The length of residence by his mother is of no consequence. Whether or not Hawaii had statehood is of no consequence. Why? Because residents born in the U.S. Territory of Hawaii were granted full U.S. citizenship as natural-born citizens. This special circumstance was granted to both Alaska and Hawaii, though not to other outlying territories which have their own special circumstances. So all this focus is rather ridiculous unless it can be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii, or anywhere else within the Continental U.S. and Alaska. Everything else is just a smoke screen meant to confuse the issue. Hooray, at last, a voice stating the obvious. The fact that a minority can't accept a mans colour is Americas shame Is it just coincidence that the two states mentioned here are notorious for their racist elements?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 01/08/12 09:43 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 01/08/12 09:43 PM
This whole debate is founded on the notion that Obama's birth certificate was forged. It has been reviewed time and time again, and been determined to be authentic. However, claims of forgery still persist. Therefore, this issue will never be resolved because one side refuses to accept that the document is genuine. So long as Obama was born in Hawaii, the whole discussion is moot. His father's status is of no consequence. The length of residence by his mother is of no consequence. Whether or not Hawaii had statehood is of no consequence. Why? Because residents born in the U.S. Territory of Hawaii were granted full U.S. citizenship as natural-born citizens. This special circumstance was granted to both Alaska and Hawaii, though not to other outlying territories which have their own special circumstances. So all this focus is rather ridiculous unless it can be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii, or anywhere else within the Continental U.S. and Alaska. Everything else is just a smoke screen meant to confuse the issue. Hooray, at last, a voice stating the obvious. The fact that a minority can't accept a mans colour is Americas shame Is it just coincidence that the two states mentioned here are notorious for their racist elements? I was thinking about that. There are also a lot of blacks living in those states. They might not like what is going on with that.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sun 01/08/12 09:45 PM
This whole debate is founded on the notion that Obama's birth certificate was forged. It has been reviewed time and time again, and been determined to be authentic. However, claims of forgery still persist. Therefore, this issue will never be resolved because one side refuses to accept that the document is genuine. So long as Obama was born in Hawaii, the whole discussion is moot. His father's status is of no consequence. The length of residence by his mother is of no consequence. Whether or not Hawaii had statehood is of no consequence. Why? Because residents born in the U.S. Territory of Hawaii were granted full U.S. citizenship as natural-born citizens. This special circumstance was granted to both Alaska and Hawaii, though not to other outlying territories which have their own special circumstances. So all this focus is rather ridiculous unless it can be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii, or anywhere else within the Continental U.S. and Alaska. Everything else is just a smoke screen meant to confuse the issue. Hooray, at last, a voice stating the obvious. The fact that a minority can't accept a mans colour is Americas shame Is it just coincidence that the two states mentioned here are notorious for their racist elements? Coincidence. Conspiracy. Meh.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 01/08/12 11:29 PM
Is there actual proof that Barry Soetoro was actually Obama's name? Or is there a mixup with someone else's ss number? If this is true, why is it not well known? How will history write the story of Barak Obama if they don't have the truth? Maybe he really is the love child of malcom X. I like that story a lot better. Sotero was his stepfathers name and the name they used when he went to school in his stepfathers homeland it was not his birthname....or on his ss number,,,,,

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sun 01/08/12 11:34 PM
Sotero was his stepfathers name and the name they used when he went to school in his stepfathers homeland it was not his birthname....or on his ss number,,,,, So, they changed his name numerous times? And they say it only takes three months for a mind to warped by the terrorist belief that 'America is the Devil'. And, idk bout you.. But my SS number.. is a number. Not a name? Or do you name linked to a number? And before you get mad.. I'm teasing. :) Ur so fun to tease. :D

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 01/08/12 11:35 PM
This whole debate is founded on the notion that Obama's birth certificate was forged. It has been reviewed time and time again, and been determined to be authentic. However, claims of forgery still persist. Therefore, this issue will never be resolved because one side refuses to accept that the document is genuine. So long as Obama was born in Hawaii, the whole discussion is moot. His father's status is of no consequence. The length of residence by his mother is of no consequence. Whether or not Hawaii had statehood is of no consequence. Why? Because residents born in the U.S. Territory of Hawaii were granted full U.S. citizenship as natural-born citizens. This special circumstance was granted to both Alaska and Hawaii, though not to other outlying territories which have their own special circumstances. So all this focus is rather ridiculous unless it can be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii, or anywhere else within the Continental U.S. and Alaska. Everything else is just a smoke screen meant to confuse the issue. Don't eat me alive.. as this is only my opinion. I believe this is because of 'who' actually was the person or persons that 'verified' it to be authentic. Those who don't believe 'the system' will never accept those working for 'the system' as people of credit; nor people that's judgment holds any true word of 'value'. That's why, imo, it, like many other ideals, will be argued and protested against. With that said.. I agree, though, the whole point is moot. (btw love that word) No one will ever agree to disagree and certainly they won't all just 'agree' either. Tis the way of politics. may I Get deeper and say,, those that dont believe 'the system', seem to believe it when it agrees with what they believe,,,lol

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 01/08/12 11:36 PM
Sotero was his stepfathers name and the name they used when he went to school in his stepfathers homeland it was not his birthname....or on his ss number,,,,, So, they changed his name numerous times? And they say it only takes three months for a mind to warped by the terrorist belief that 'America is the Devil'. And, idk bout you.. But my SS number.. is a number. Not a name? Or do you name linked to a number? And before you get mad.. I'm teasing. :) Ur so fun to tease. :D its all good dude, I just bore of the nonsense sometimes there are legitimate complaints and concerns, no doubt, but this stuff belongs in a trash barrel its so ridiculous and irrelevant,,,

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sun 01/08/12 11:42 PM
I'm sorry. :( I just try to loosen you up. So tense! An opinion is an opinion. I just tease cause it's like no matter the topic You end up with the same argument with each subject. So. I tease. :D

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 01/08/12 11:44 PM
I'm sorry. :( I just try to loosen you up. So tense! An opinion is an opinion. I just tease cause it's like no matter the topic You end up with the same argument with each subject. So. I tease. :D an opinion is an opinion,,,,,most honest thing ever posted

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 01/08/12 11:57 PM
Well I have had my name changed several times. Big deal. I am still the same person.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Mon 01/09/12 12:01 AM
Well I have had my name changed several times. Big deal. I am still the same person. Hey, hey floating one.. Twas a question. :]

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 01/09/12 01:03 AM
Sotero was his stepfathers name and the name they used when he went to school in his stepfathers homeland it was not his birthname....or on his ss number,,,,, So, they changed his name numerous times? And they say it only takes three months for a mind to warped by the terrorist belief that 'America is the Devil'. And, idk bout you.. But my SS number.. is a number. Not a name? Or do you name linked to a number? And before you get mad.. I'm teasing. :) Ur so fun to tease. :D its all good dude, I just bore of the nonsense sometimes there are legitimate complaints and concerns, no doubt, but this stuff belongs in a trash barrel its so ridiculous and irrelevant,,, Oh no, the question of whether he is actually ELIGLIBLE to hold the Presidency isn't relevant at all........... You're not the only one that tires of all the nonsense.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 01/09/12 01:03 AM Edited by Kleisto on Mon 01/09/12 01:04 AM
Double post.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Mon 01/09/12 01:05 AM
Kleisto, my man, what's up? Still Bama-hating?

actionlynx Joined Wed 08/18/10 Posts: 5448	Mon 01/09/12 01:09 AM
Oh no, the question of whether he is actually ELIGLIBLE to hold the Presidency isn't relevant at all........... You're not the only one that tires of all the nonsense. Kleisto, you need to go back to read my post in this thread. You entered a bit after the fact.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 01/09/12 01:27 AM
It has been along fight but we seem to be making ground against Barry Why do you call Barack H. Obama "Barry?" Barry Soetoro.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 01/09/12 01:29 AM Edited by Kleisto on Mon 01/09/12 01:32 AM
Oh no, the question of whether he is actually ELIGLIBLE to hold the Presidency isn't relevant at all........... You're not the only one that tires of all the nonsense. Kleisto, you need to go back to read my post in this thread. You entered a bit after the fact. I saw it, and quite frankly I think they are lying. I don't trust them as far as I can throw em. They've lied to many times to be credible to me now. hey have proven themselves untrustworthy over and over again, so pretty much anything that will come from them is gonna be suspect to me. If they tell you something is good, chances are it's bad, if they tell you something true, it may not be at all. Call me what you will for that, but when they have shown a penchant for deceit many times over, they don't deserve my trust. The fact that the media has taken to calling people who questions this, "birthers" says something also. It tells me they don't have other arguments to back up their claims, so they must resort to insults instead to make us look stupid. They do it all the time. If what they say is true, it'd stand on its' own, there would no need for that.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 01/09/12 01:33 AM
Kleisto, my man, what's up? Still Bama-hating? Government as a whole lol, but yeah.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Mon 01/09/12 01:39 AM
Kleisto, my man, what's up? Still Bama-hating? Government as a whole lol, but yeah. Yeah, give the finger to the man! Cause only we, truly give a da**! Hasn't been a cool person in the Oval Office since Lewinski. I mean, talk about service to the country. :P ..and all that stuff.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 01/09/12 02:10 AM
Kleisto, my man, what's up? Still Bama-hating? Government as a whole lol, but yeah. Yeah, give the finger to the man! Cause only we, truly give a da**! Hasn't been a cool person in the Oval Office since Lewinski. I mean, talk about service to the country. :P ..and all that stuff. Nicely played there lol.