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Topic: Yes, pit bulls suddenly snap!
boredinaz06's photo
Sun 01/08/12 09:35 AM
5 things you always hear about pit bulls and why they're all true, please visit the link below.

http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2012/01/yes-pit-bulls-suddenly-snap/

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Sun 01/08/12 10:50 AM
Yes they are sweet dogs, but don't piss them off.

justme659's photo
Sun 01/08/12 12:27 PM
Hell, sweet loveable family dogs like a lab will snap.
Bunny wabbits will snap.
Human beans will snap.

I guess my point is feed them, love them and treat them right and all animals, including the human variety will snap less often.

motowndowntown's photo
Sun 01/08/12 12:44 PM
It's not the breed. It's breeding and upbringing.
Just like any other animal, including human.

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Sun 01/08/12 12:59 PM
From reading the responses here, I think klc was right in that most will just assume that the article proves pittbulls snap in a violent way. :wink:

teadipper's photo
Sun 01/08/12 01:28 PM
I spent summers on my grandparents' farm. We always had pit bulls. They never did turn on family. HOWEVER, if a stranger was to screw with one of us kids, ya they can turn nasty and protective.

Now, that I am an adult and sometimes volunteer for spay and neuter. The pit bulls I see lash out often so from being in pain. If are injured, etc. Sometimes, emotional pain because someone has treated them badly.

However as the daughter of a retired Sears repairman, I can tell you in my dad's personal experience. He has never been bit by a pit bull. It is almost always some little dog that someone underestimated and did not train to behave. They thought it was too cute to be dangerous or harmful so it was never put in it's place.

EquusDancer's photo
Sun 01/08/12 01:55 PM
Excellent! :-D Love my pittie, brat though he is!

boredinaz06's photo
Sun 01/08/12 02:49 PM

Dude! There will be a percentage of people who will not read the article and assume there is evidence of the stereotype. They will nod and say, 'ya, I figured it was true'.



so:

If you dont read the article, it means to dispell the assumption that pit bulls will snap. Not prove they do.


A reasonable person will visit the link and read it, so far there are 6 reasonable people.

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Sun 01/08/12 08:19 PM
Im a big dog lover and liked the article. Any dog that bites, I blame the owner for lack of attention. My favorite quote from Marilyn Monroe
"dogs never bite me, only humans"

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Sun 01/08/12 09:08 PM

It's not the breed. It's breeding and upbringing.
Just like any other animal, including human.


I think dogs inherit a lot from their family line in the way of personality, talents and attitudes. Its almost like they carry some of their parents memories in their genes.




eileena9's photo
Mon 01/09/12 01:46 AM
I love the faces.... like the "powerful jaws" and the attacking for the couch instead of the floor... laugh

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 01/09/12 08:39 AM



It's not the breed. It's breeding and upbringing.
Just like any other animal, including human.


I think dogs inherit a lot from their family line in the way of personality, talents and attitudes. Its almost like they carry some of their parents memories in their genes.





Absolutely right. Temperment is hereditary. Bull terriers have physical features that made them useful/successful choices to abuse in 'fighting games'. But like others are pointing out, all animals will snap, including humans, when they feel attacked. Like the op when he thought I was insulting him.

If you throw them into a pit and make them fight for their lives, they will probably do just that, even a golden retriever. The one with the massive muscles and iron jaw will probably win. Thats the big difference.


I didn't think you were insulting, I was pointing out to you that reasonable people will find out for themselves and not take others words. Sorry you misread me.

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Mon 01/09/12 08:46 AM


I didn't think you were insulting, I was pointing out to you that reasonable people will find out for themselves and not take others words. Sorry you misread me.


Oh, sorry I misread you, too. Why did you say 6, when there were 7 posters, not counting you?


Oh I don't know, possible miscount!

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Mon 01/09/12 08:50 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 01/09/12 08:53 AM
Have you ever heard of the Cordoba fighting dog? If you have, then you probably know that breed went extinct. They were so violent, that they would rather kill than mate.

Look at that sweet face and remember...



that is the face of a dog that would rather kill than mate. It doesn't look threatening, does it? What's that saying about books and covers?

Sometimes, nurture trumps nature and sometimes nature wins. Pitbulls were breed to kill each other, they are aggressive towards other dogs and animals. Raised right, they aren't any more dangerous than any other dog. Raised or cared for wrong and they are.

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Mon 01/09/12 09:10 AM


American bull terriers (the correct name for pit bulls) are a cross breed of bull dog and English, Scottish and Irish terriers. These were originally used to bait bulls and bears until that was deemed cruel, it was at that time that they began being used for fighting. First it was ratting (a number of rats and one dog in a cage) then dog fighting.

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Mon 01/09/12 09:27 AM



American bull terriers (the correct name for pit bulls) are a cross breed of bull dog and English, Scottish and Irish terriers. These were originally used to bait bulls and bears until that was deemed cruel, it was at that time that they began being used for fighting. First it was ratting (a number of rats and one dog in a cage) then dog fighting.


Not to nit pick, but it's "American Pit Bull Terriers". And according to Bulldogbreed.com, "A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog".

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Mon 01/09/12 10:10 AM




American bull terriers (the correct name for pit bulls) are a cross breed of bull dog and English, Scottish and Irish terriers. These were originally used to bait bulls and bears until that was deemed cruel, it was at that time that they began being used for fighting. First it was ratting (a number of rats and one dog in a cage) then dog fighting.


Not to nit pick, but it's "American Pit Bull Terriers". And according to Bulldogbreed.com, "A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog".

I'm not that familiar with breeding and such, but genotype does not necessarily equal phenotype. Fighting dogs have to be trained to fight, as I have been told.

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Mon 01/09/12 10:28 AM





American bull terriers (the correct name for pit bulls) are a cross breed of bull dog and English, Scottish and Irish terriers. These were originally used to bait bulls and bears until that was deemed cruel, it was at that time that they began being used for fighting. First it was ratting (a number of rats and one dog in a cage) then dog fighting.


Not to nit pick, but it's "American Pit Bull Terriers". And according to Bulldogbreed.com, "A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog".

I'm not that familiar with breeding and such, but genotype does not necessarily equal phenotype. Fighting dogs have to be trained to fight, as I have been told.


See my post above about the Cordoba fighting dogs. In nature vs nurture, there is no guaranteed winner.

EquusDancer's photo
Tue 01/10/12 06:04 PM
There are several different breeds that get lumped as "pit bulls", so technically, you are all correct. Heck, even the American Bulldog is considered a "pit-type" dog.

And yes, as with the Cordoba fighting dog, humans had to breed aggressive to more aggressive, which would still end up being nurture. It's very unlikely, given nature, that the breed would have naturally come in to existence that aggressive.

That said, I can say from personal experience, Dogo Argentino's are WONDERFUL dogs, and I'd happily have one again.


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Wed 01/11/12 06:01 PM




American bull terriers (the correct name for pit bulls) are a cross breed of bull dog and English, Scottish and Irish terriers. These were originally used to bait bulls and bears until that was deemed cruel, it was at that time that they began being used for fighting. First it was ratting (a number of rats and one dog in a cage) then dog fighting.


Not to nit pick, but it's "American Pit Bull Terriers". And according to Bulldogbreed.com, "A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog".


Pit bull is not a breed. Pit Bull is a nick name for them and is why you see when properly written as American [Pit Bull] Terriers. The breed is American Bull Terriers and as I mentioned above they are a cross breed of several breeds and are a member of the Molosser breed group which include various Mastiff breeds, Bull Dogs, Boxers, Himalayan Sheepdogs among a host of others.

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