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Topic: The Rumors about Bill Clinton are TRUE
s1owhand's photo
Sat 01/07/12 03:36 PM
Former President Bill Clinton has a new book out, Back to Work. Its subtitle is: Why We Need Smart Government For A Strong Economy.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/shahgilani/2011/12/06/the-rumors-about-bill-clinton-are-true/

I am looking forward to reading this book.

s1owhand's photo
Sat 01/07/12 05:21 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 01/07/12 05:21 PM
Many of his excellent ideas for boosting the economy originally were
described in this article from Newsweek earlier this year.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/06/19/it-s-still-the-economy-stupid.html

For example:

2. CASH FOR STARTUPS

If you start a business tomorrow, I can give you all the tax credits in the world, but since you haven’t made a nickel yet, they’re of no use to you. President Obama came in with a really good energy policy, including an idea to provide both a tax credit for new green jobs and for startup companies, to allow the conversion of the tax credit into its cash equivalent for every employee hired. Then last December, in the tax-cut compromise, the Republicans in Congress wouldn’t agree to extend this benefit because they said, “This is a spending program, not a tax cut. We’re only for tax cuts.” It was a mistake. The cash incentive worked. On the day President Obama took office, the U.S. had less than 2 percent of the world market in manufacturing the high-powered batteries for hybrid or all-electric cars. On the day of the congressional elections in 2010, thanks in large part to the cash—incentive policy, we had 20 percent of global capacity, with 30 new battery plants built or under construction, 16 of them in Michigan, which had America’s second—highest unemployment rate. We have to convince the Republican Congress that this is a good thing. If this incentive structure can be maintained, it’s estimated that by 2015 we’ll have 40 percent of the world’s capacity for these batteries. We could get lots of manufacturing jobs in the same way. I could write about this until the cows come home.

willing2's photo
Sat 01/07/12 07:12 PM
Didn't Hussein come up with a pay-as-ya'-go plan???? It was supposed to be fo gubament but guess what. He laid it on the backs of the small business man.
Now, I don't go at my house. I drive to Wal-Mart and use their toilet water. Let them pay as I go.

no photo
Sat 01/07/12 09:03 PM

Didn't Hussein come up with a pay-as-ya'-go plan???? It was supposed to be fo gubament but guess what. He laid it on the backs of the small business man.
Now, I don't go at my house. I drive to Wal-Mart and use their toilet water. Let them pay as I go.


Who the hell is Hussein?

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 01/07/12 09:08 PM


Didn't Hussein come up with a pay-as-ya'-go plan???? It was supposed to be fo gubament but guess what. He laid it on the backs of the small business man.
Now, I don't go at my house. I drive to Wal-Mart and use their toilet water. Let them pay as I go.


Who the hell is Hussein?


Sadam?

Iraq?

Dicktater?


willing2's photo
Sat 01/07/12 09:17 PM
Edited by willing2 on Sat 01/07/12 09:20 PM



Didn't Hussein come up with a pay-as-ya'-go plan???? It was supposed to be fo gubament but guess what. He laid it on the backs of the small business man.
Now, I don't go at my house. I drive to Wal-Mart and use their toilet water. Let them pay as I go.


Who the hell is Hussein?


Sadam?

Iraq?

Dicktater?



Hussein oBoreme, yo' boi in DC, for now.
Ya' know, the jacka$$ who signed the Indefinite detention Law?

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 01/07/12 09:42 PM




Didn't Hussein come up with a pay-as-ya'-go plan???? It was supposed to be fo gubament but guess what. He laid it on the backs of the small business man.
Now, I don't go at my house. I drive to Wal-Mart and use their toilet water. Let them pay as I go.


Who the hell is Hussein?


Sadam?

Iraq?

Dicktater?



Hussein oBoreme, yo' boi in DC, for now.
Ya' know, the jacka$$ who signed the Indefinite detention Law?


..oh then I'm with her..

Never heard of him.

Wait, 'my boi'?

You must have me mistaken with someone else.
I hate ALL politicians.
Heck, I don't even care what country they work in.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/07/12 10:01 PM

Many of his excellent ideas for boosting the economy originally were
described in this article from Newsweek earlier this year.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/06/19/it-s-still-the-economy-stupid.html

For example:

2. CASH FOR STARTUPS

If you start a business tomorrow, I can give you all the tax credits in the world, but since you haven’t made a nickel yet, they’re of no use to you. President Obama came in with a really good energy policy, including an idea to provide both a tax credit for new green jobs and for startup companies, to allow the conversion of the tax credit into its cash equivalent for every employee hired. Then last December, in the tax-cut compromise, the Republicans in Congress wouldn’t agree to extend this benefit because they said, “This is a spending program, not a tax cut. We’re only for tax cuts.” It was a mistake. The cash incentive worked. On the day President Obama took office, the U.S. had less than 2 percent of the world market in manufacturing the high-powered batteries for hybrid or all-electric cars. On the day of the congressional elections in 2010, thanks in large part to the cash—incentive policy, we had 20 percent of global capacity, with 30 new battery plants built or under construction, 16 of them in Michigan, which had America’s second—highest unemployment rate. We have to convince the Republican Congress that this is a good thing. If this incentive structure can be maintained, it’s estimated that by 2015 we’ll have 40 percent of the world’s capacity for these batteries. We could get lots of manufacturing jobs in the same way. I could write about this until the cows come home.




too bad not alot of people read anything thats not on a website, anymore

I like Clinton, My Life is actually a very good work of self reflection,,,,he is a smart man

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 01/07/12 10:22 PM

too bad not alot of people read anything thats not on a website, anymore

I like Clinton, My Life is actually a very good work of self reflection,,,,he is a smart man


For once, I agree with you, Harmony. :)

Well, with the first statement. Liking Clinton.

Him being smart? idk.. can't judge. He did get caught though.
My Life. Absolutely no clue.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/07/12 10:24 PM


too bad not alot of people read anything thats not on a website, anymore

I like Clinton, My Life is actually a very good work of self reflection,,,,he is a smart man


For once, I agree with you, Harmony. :)

Well, with the first statement. Liking Clinton.

Him being smart? idk.. can't judge. He did get caught though.
My Life. Absolutely no clue.



lol,,,yeah well

who expects an intern to risk her job by letting on she is giving 'benefits' to the boss,,,?

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 01/07/12 10:26 PM



too bad not alot of people read anything thats not on a website, anymore

I like Clinton, My Life is actually a very good work of self reflection,,,,he is a smart man


For once, I agree with you, Harmony. :)

Well, with the first statement. Liking Clinton.

Him being smart? idk.. can't judge. He did get caught though.
My Life. Absolutely no clue.



lol,,,yeah well

who expects an intern to risk her job by letting on she is giving 'benefits' to the boss,,,?


A smart one.

That conspiracy could've landed her some flippin' dough. lol, jk
She probably would have mysteriously 'disappeared'. :O

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/07/12 10:39 PM




too bad not alot of people read anything thats not on a website, anymore

I like Clinton, My Life is actually a very good work of self reflection,,,,he is a smart man


For once, I agree with you, Harmony. :)

Well, with the first statement. Liking Clinton.

Him being smart? idk.. can't judge. He did get caught though.
My Life. Absolutely no clue.



lol,,,yeah well

who expects an intern to risk her job by letting on she is giving 'benefits' to the boss,,,?


A smart one.

That conspiracy could've landed her some flippin' dough. lol, jk
She probably would have mysteriously 'disappeared'. :O



not as much dough as blackmail might have,,,,


but even rhoades scholars think with the wrong brain sometimes when it comes to their horomones...

s1owhand's photo
Sun 01/08/12 01:27 AM
Yes he is extremely smart. And, he is helping to craft the Democratic
message in the pre-election year going into this election year...

Here is the message: "It's Still the Economy, Stupid"

And while the Republicans are fighting among themselves about who is
the "real conservative", or whether we should bring all our troops back
home like a turtle pulling into it's shell, or gay marriage, or
addressing the NAACP about how blacks should work for a paycheck
instead of exploiting welfare, or why the very richest few of our
society cannot pay a bit more in taxes...

Obama is making recess appointments to get past the Congressional
obstructionism and Clinton is proposing a variety of astute and
practical economic programs like these (from the same Newsweek article):

4. COPY THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING

Just look at the Empire State Building—I can see it from my office window. Our climate-change people worked on their retrofit project. They cleared off a whole floor for a small factory to change the heating and air conditioning, put in new lighting and insulation, and cut energy-efficient glass for the windows. Johnson Controls, the energy-service company overseeing the project, guaranteed the building owners their electricity usage would go down 38 percent—a massive saving, which will enable the costs of the retrofits to be recovered through lower utility bills in less than five years. Meanwhile, the project created hundreds of jobs and cut greenhouse-gas emissions substantially. We could put a million people to work retrofitting buildings all over America.

5. GET THE UTILITIES IN ON THE ACTION

Let’s suppose you and I go to a blue-collar neighborhood in Rockland County, N.Y., about an hour north of midtown Manhattan. On each house we could do a simple job—in and out in a day—that would almost certainly save 20 percent in energy costs. You wouldn’t even need banks if states required the electric companies to let consumers finance this work through utility savings. At least 11 states allow the electric companies to collect the money saved and use it to pay the contractors. So why shouldn’t the utilities finance this? To give another example, our climate-change initiative worked with the state of Arkansas, with the support of the governor, to develop a program called HEAL (Home Energy Assistance Loan), in which a company first creates jobs by making its own building more energy-efficient. Then, with the savings from the utility bill, they establish a fund to offer interest-free loans to their employees to finance the same work on their homes. This could be done with a little government support by companies all over the country. You get 7,000 jobs for every billion dollars in retrofitting. Let’s start with the schools and colleges and hospitals, and state, county, and local government buildings. That would keep the construction industry busy for a couple of years, creating a million jobs that would ripple through the whole economy, spurring even more growth.


Now that's smart!

drinker

laugh

InvictusV's photo
Sun 01/08/12 05:34 AM

Yes he is extremely smart. And, he is helping to craft the Democratic
message in the pre-election year going into this election year...

Here is the message: "It's Still the Economy, Stupid"

And while the Republicans are fighting among themselves about who is
the "real conservative", or whether we should bring all our troops back
home like a turtle pulling into it's shell, or gay marriage, or
addressing the NAACP about how blacks should work for a paycheck
instead of exploiting welfare, or why the very richest few of our
society cannot pay a bit more in taxes...

Obama is making recess appointments to get past the Congressional
obstructionism and Clinton is proposing a variety of astute and
practical economic programs like these (from the same Newsweek article):

4. COPY THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING

Just look at the Empire State Building—I can see it from my office window. Our climate-change people worked on their retrofit project. They cleared off a whole floor for a small factory to change the heating and air conditioning, put in new lighting and insulation, and cut energy-efficient glass for the windows. Johnson Controls, the energy-service company overseeing the project, guaranteed the building owners their electricity usage would go down 38 percent—a massive saving, which will enable the costs of the retrofits to be recovered through lower utility bills in less than five years. Meanwhile, the project created hundreds of jobs and cut greenhouse-gas emissions substantially. We could put a million people to work retrofitting buildings all over America.

5. GET THE UTILITIES IN ON THE ACTION

Let’s suppose you and I go to a blue-collar neighborhood in Rockland County, N.Y., about an hour north of midtown Manhattan. On each house we could do a simple job—in and out in a day—that would almost certainly save 20 percent in energy costs. You wouldn’t even need banks if states required the electric companies to let consumers finance this work through utility savings. At least 11 states allow the electric companies to collect the money saved and use it to pay the contractors. So why shouldn’t the utilities finance this? To give another example, our climate-change initiative worked with the state of Arkansas, with the support of the governor, to develop a program called HEAL (Home Energy Assistance Loan), in which a company first creates jobs by making its own building more energy-efficient. Then, with the savings from the utility bill, they establish a fund to offer interest-free loans to their employees to finance the same work on their homes. This could be done with a little government support by companies all over the country. You get 7,000 jobs for every billion dollars in retrofitting. Let’s start with the schools and colleges and hospitals, and state, county, and local government buildings. That would keep the construction industry busy for a couple of years, creating a million jobs that would ripple through the whole economy, spurring even more growth.


Now that's smart!

drinker

laugh



LMAO

I thought the current president is the head of the party..

I am sure Mr smartest president ever, Obama, appreciates Clinton's advice, but unless the teleprompter tells him to do it....

It ain't happenin'


s1owhand's photo
Sun 01/08/12 07:31 AM
laugh

Clinton and Obama are most certainly working together on this issue.

laugh

InvictusV's photo
Sun 01/08/12 07:41 AM

laugh

Clinton and Obama are most certainly working together on this issue.

laugh


Along with the guys on Wall Street that are funding the re election campaign..




s1owhand's photo
Sun 01/08/12 07:45 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 01/08/12 07:46 AM
Actually, the GOP is the preferred party on Wall St.

laugh

InvictusV's photo
Sun 01/08/12 07:50 AM

Actually, the GOP is the preferred party on Wall St.

laugh


I posted an article last month that looked at campaign contributions and it showed that Obama has received more money from Wall Street contributors than all the Republicans combined.

You want me to re post it?

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/08/12 08:18 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 01/08/12 08:20 AM


laugh

Clinton and Obama are most certainly working together on this issue.

laugh


Along with the guys on Wall Street that are funding the re election campaign..







except more than half of OBAMAS campaign is being funded by SMALL donors (under 200 dollars)


http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

InvictusV's photo
Sun 01/08/12 08:53 AM



laugh

Clinton and Obama are most certainly working together on this issue.

laugh


Along with the guys on Wall Street that are funding the re election campaign..







except more than half of OBAMAS campaign is being funded by SMALL donors (under 200 dollars)


http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance


That is nice..

It doesn't change the fact that the man rails against wall street excess that plays to his base and then turns around and actively seeks their cash for his re election.

If you don't think accepting large sums from special interest groups comes with strings attached then I guess I see why this doesn't bother you.

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