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Topic: New Age philsophies - Indigo Children.
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Thu 01/05/12 05:23 PM
Edited by VintagenNerdy on Thu 01/05/12 05:35 PM
So, I remember The New Age movement being a huge thing when I was younger. Based on pseudo-scientific points. It's very spiritual based.
Indigo Children particularly saying that children with learning disabilities with higher IQ's possessed some sort of psychic abilities..
I remember after being diagnosed with ADD when I was younger, a few different New Age philosopher's telling my mother that I had an indigo based aura, making me a "chosen indigo child."
To this day I'm still not sure what I think personally about such things However, I've never felt that I had any sort of psychic abilities, other than perhaps the fact that I'm really empathetic sometimes, however quite a few people are like that.
I can't say I don't like the thought of it though.

Might I also add, that indigo children are known to be very artistic, are known to be different, and think outside of the box, free thinkers, and sometimes are even known to have psychical characteristics like Large eyes.

What are your thoughts on the New Age movement?

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Thu 01/05/12 06:53 PM
I don't think much about the indigo children thing. Flaky.

There are so many other things (and cults) that have been called "New age" that you would have to be more specific.

To fundamentalists, anything that is not an established old time religion is called "new age."

I've looked into many different new age movements that came and went. Many of them are based on extraterrestrials. Heck, even the Morman religion started with Joseph Smith basically being abducted by aliens.


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Fri 01/06/12 03:00 AM
Edited by John8659 on Fri 01/06/12 03:57 AM
Never heard of it. I realized very young the truth of Confucius's and Plato's stand. And later, I learned it is Scriptural also. I am not religious, man does not yet understand that text.

I know telepathy exists, I have had some remarkable experiences myself, I am, quite frankly, alive today because of it.

However, because man is not yet capable of rational thought, it is best that it is hidden from man, for now.

People look to find others to think and live for them, they don't realize that that is a death wish due to the lack of their own mental development.

We can improve our mind, just like our body, through exercise. The best thing one can do for their fellow man, is to lay the path before them, step by step, but only they can choose to follow the path, or follow their folly.

I would not put too much trust in your diagnosis. I was believed to be mentally retarded, until they did an actual IQ test.

Children need to play, structured play, to soak up understanding, not be confined behind a desk which amounts to sensory deprivation.

The sad thing is, schools may be doing more harm than good at times.

Anyone with a pence worth of understanding can see it. We name our experences, we do not experience names.

Of often sees it themselves, people with low and average intelligence do great in school, where people of high intelligence even sometimes go mad. It is a form of sensory deprivation.


This is also why I have said that society has structured itself to insure its own downfall, it begins with education and children.

We need to learn how to standardize children's play to maximize joy and conceptual understanding. To teach fear and hope.

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Fri 01/06/12 04:28 AM
Edited by John8659 on Fri 01/06/12 05:12 AM
The surviability of any social structure is wholly dependent upon the education of its children.

This has been echo'd by Confucius, Plato, Christ, and anyone with understanding.

It follows naturally that women have always had the greatest power in history, but have failed to develop it, for the children have always been in their hands. They do not see, that the life of man has always dependended upon them.

And men, being the dumb ***** they are, have failed to encourage the development of their women.

Mistreat a woman, you destroy civilation. Duh. This is why a great deal can be learned about a society by examining marital customs of a people.

Those who survive their childhood are rare, and even more rarely find a kindred soul.

No wonder, when someone says that love is all the things two people do together to maintain and promote their life, they emerge from their childhood completly unable to comprehend the truth of it.

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Mon 01/09/12 09:33 AM
What does it take to test any of these various claims? I guess first you have to start at what does it mean to be "indigo".

On its face its extremely vague. That is the first clue. If you can detail the claims, you can test them, being vague is a shield against any possible testing.

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Sun 01/15/12 08:50 AM
I have ADHD and I am artisic to the max and I can see ghosts,and dream of the future and I sometimes know things are going to happen before it happens. If youd like examples just ask.

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Sun 01/15/12 10:27 AM

...I sometimes know things are going to happen before it happens. If youd like examples just ask.


In my daily life, its seems that I know most things before they happen.

People broadcast their thoughts and intentions with their expressions, body language, intonation.

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Sun 01/15/12 12:11 PM
I know things are going to happen before they happen too.

The sun will go down.
I will die someday.
I will go to bed tonight.

The phone is going to ring. (sooner or later.)


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Sun 01/15/12 12:57 PM
Considering modern times is basically far more open to all things, religion isn't in as much control, and education is considered a basic right, it would kind of be silly to say that art is repressed, and our IQ's haven't gotten higher in general.

I've found that the "indigo children" tends to be more of an excuse to not discipline one's children (in ANY form or fashion), and basically allow them to run rampant over others. No basic manners, no basic civility or respect for others, be the child "normal" or autistic, ADD, ADHD, or any other problem. Basically, they're maniacal brats whose parents didn't parent.


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Sun 01/15/12 01:17 PM


I've found that the "indigo children" tends to be more of an excuse to not discipline one's children (in ANY form or fashion), and basically allow them to run rampant over others. No basic manners, no basic civility or respect for others, be the child "normal" or autistic, ADD, ADHD, or any other problem. Basically, they're maniacal brats whose parents didn't parent.




Yep. I've seen this kind of thing with new-ager parents, also.

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Sun 01/15/12 02:38 PM

Considering modern times is basically far more open to all things, religion isn't in as much control, and education is considered a basic right, it would kind of be silly to say that art is repressed, and our IQ's haven't gotten higher in general.

I've found that the "indigo children" tends to be more of an excuse to not discipline one's children (in ANY form or fashion), and basically allow them to run rampant over others. No basic manners, no basic civility or respect for others, be the child "normal" or autistic, ADD, ADHD, or any other problem. Basically, they're maniacal brats whose parents didn't parent.




I think that's a bit of a rude generalization. Granted, I wasn't in anyway raised that way. However I do have friends who are new-agers and they raise their children to be open-minded, artistic, try new things, etc. But, they hardly let them run rampant and the children are well-mannered.
I think that it would be a bit more fair to blame the individual parents and not the fact that they're new-agers, because every new-age parent isn't like that.

And no, IQ's haven't in general gotten higher. Actually it's somewhat the opposite.

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Sun 01/15/12 03:12 PM
I raised 3 indigo sons and they are
respectful and well mannered young men.

I did and still do parent them...they are adults so I don't discipline them. I will call em out on their ******** and pull rank on them if they act like ********...still!

I've seen lousy parents who were christian, pagan, atheist, Jewish,
Muslim.....

Lousy parenting comes in ALL beliefs!!

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Sun 01/15/12 03:37 PM

Considering modern times is basically far more open to all things, religion isn't in as much control, and education is considered a basic right, it would kind of be silly to say that art is repressed, and our IQ's haven't gotten higher in general.

I've found that the "indigo children" tends to be more of an excuse to not discipline one's children (in ANY form or fashion), and basically allow them to run rampant over others. No basic manners, no basic civility or respect for others, be the child "normal" or autistic, ADD, ADHD, or any other problem. Basically, they're maniacal brats whose parents didn't parent.


I think you meant crystal kidslaugh drinker

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Sun 01/15/12 04:02 PM


Considering modern times is basically far more open to all things, religion isn't in as much control, and education is considered a basic right, it would kind of be silly to say that art is repressed, and our IQ's haven't gotten higher in general.

I've found that the "indigo children" tends to be more of an excuse to not discipline one's children (in ANY form or fashion), and basically allow them to run rampant over others. No basic manners, no basic civility or respect for others, be the child "normal" or autistic, ADD, ADHD, or any other problem. Basically, they're maniacal brats whose parents didn't parent.


I think you meant crystal kidslaugh drinker


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Sun 01/15/12 04:07 PM

I raised 3 indigo sons and they are
respectful and well mannered young men.

I did and still do parent them...they are adults so I don't discipline them. I will call em out on their ******** and pull rank on them if they act like ********...still!

I've seen lousy parents who were christian, pagan, atheist, Jewish,
Muslim.....

Lousy parenting comes in ALL beliefs!!


Exactly my point. :)

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Mon 01/16/12 07:53 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 01/16/12 07:57 AM


...I sometimes know things are going to happen before it happens. If youd like examples just ask.


In my daily life, its seems that I know most things before they happen.

People broadcast their thoughts and intentions with their expressions, body language, intonation.
I know things before they happen. I can deduce all kinds of things will occur from my knowledge of the world and the millions of interactions I have experienced. Sometimes I even guess and am right. Sometimes I guess and am wrong but dont remember becuase its not all that exciting to be wrong and if you do not write down every guess then you cannot know if your hit miss ratio is beyond the standard statistic mean for guessing.

I urge anyone who thinks they are beyond the standard mean for guessing to do just this, write down every "guess" and take time to score your hits and misses and be fair and make sure the hits are detailed enough and not generic.

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Mon 01/16/12 07:55 AM

I raised 3 indigo sons and they are
respectful and well mannered young men.

I did and still do parent them...they are adults so I don't discipline them. I will call em out on their ******** and pull rank on them if they act like ********...still!

I've seen lousy parents who were christian, pagan, atheist, Jewish,
Muslim.....

Lousy parenting comes in ALL beliefs!!
So what makes them "indigo"?

How did you know?

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Mon 01/16/12 08:00 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 01/16/12 08:01 AM
Imagine if you basically KNEW everything that was going to happen. I mean like the major events.

If you could go back in time to 1960, how much about history (dates and events) would you even remember to be able to know what might happen next?

Vaguely you would remember Woodstock, the Beatles, the Presidents, important sports games etc. Unless you had a photographic memory, your time in the future would be pretty useless.

But okay what if you knew exactly what was going to happen in your life to the end of your life? Now all you have to do is get through it.

All we are trying to do is to get through our lives... its probably better that we don't know the exact future.

We pretty much know what the end of the story looks like. The rest we have to create. I know that if I sit here and do nothing I'm not going to accomplish a lot.


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Mon 01/16/12 08:00 AM

I raised 3 indigo sons and they are
respectful and well mannered young men.

I did and still do parent them...they are adults so I don't discipline them. I will call em out on their ******** and pull rank on them if they act like ********...still!

I've seen lousy parents who were christian, pagan, atheist, Jewish,
Muslim.....

Lousy parenting comes in ALL beliefs!!


Amen!

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Mon 01/16/12 08:14 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 01/16/12 08:29 AM
From a video on indigo/crystal/star children.

A sermon by a Dr. Scott Johnson.

To a New Age occultist, every 2,160 years of cyclic time welcomes a New Age that advances a new global revelation. Supposed enlightened humans serve as planetary light bearers who have broken free from (in this case) the Age of Pieces to forge in its place the Age of Aquarius. This Age of Cosmic (or Christ) Consciousness is distinguished by group interplay and idealism (AKA a New World Order). Each emerging New Age boasts a Savior (Maitreya) to lead the world into discovery of the higher self. Today, evolution from embryo-god to Christhood through multiple reincarnations is no more clearly evident than in the phenomenon of the Indigo/Crystal/Star/Rainbow Children. These children are said to be highly evolved, uniquely gifted youngsters whose mission is to teach their elders and, thus, ensure planetary transformation into a golden era of peace and brotherhood. These Indigo children are being helped along by many witches and New Agers to bring about this transformation. They would say that we need the wisdom of the ancients. Most of these children are in contact a 'spirit guide' (demon). Many set forth visions and prophecies. Many use crystals, occult symbols and idols to facilitate this process (witchcraft). Many consult with familiar spirits and participate in necromancy (one who consults the dead (demon in disguise). All practices forbidden in the Bible. We will also be looking at many of the Bible verses that deal with child disipline and Proverbs 16:4: 'The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.' Psalm 58:3: 'The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.' & much more.



I think more than once I have seen (videos, not personally) a person reject disciplining there child becuase they believed the child was here to teach us. Students do not discipline there teachers. I think that was the general gist of that issue, and what previous posters have seen in action.

Generalizations aside, this is an interesting claim.


http://www.soulsoothersonline.com/indigo2.html

Interesting site here with some specific claims.

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