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Topic: New Age philsophies - Indigo Children.
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Mon 01/16/12 09:32 AM


I raised 3 indigo sons and they are
respectful and well mannered young men.

I did and still do parent them...they are adults so I don't discipline them. I will call em out on their ******** and pull rank on them if they act like ********...still!

I've seen lousy parents who were christian, pagan, atheist, Jewish,
Muslim.....

Lousy parenting comes in ALL beliefs!!
So what makes them "indigo"?

How did you know?


Well..I would have to go back about 25 years and go into all the issues with my oldest son. All the visits to the doctors, the schools, the shrinks...and I'm just not going there.
I will say that the worst thing we can and have done to the indigo children is drug them. They are diagnosed with an array of problems and given all sorts of different medications.
That is my biggest regret with my oldest so I did things very different with my younger 2.

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Mon 01/16/12 09:40 AM

From a video on indigo/crystal/star children.

A sermon by a Dr. Scott Johnson.

To a New Age occultist, every 2,160 years of cyclic time welcomes a New Age that advances a new global revelation. Supposed enlightened humans serve as planetary light bearers who have broken free from (in this case) the Age of Pieces to forge in its place the Age of Aquarius. This Age of Cosmic (or Christ) Consciousness is distinguished by group interplay and idealism (AKA a New World Order). Each emerging New Age boasts a Savior (Maitreya) to lead the world into discovery of the higher self. Today, evolution from embryo-god to Christhood through multiple reincarnations is no more clearly evident than in the phenomenon of the Indigo/Crystal/Star/Rainbow Children. These children are said to be highly evolved, uniquely gifted youngsters whose mission is to teach their elders and, thus, ensure planetary transformation into a golden era of peace and brotherhood. These Indigo children are being helped along by many witches and New Agers to bring about this transformation. They would say that we need the wisdom of the ancients. Most of these children are in contact a 'spirit guide' (demon). Many set forth visions and prophecies. Many use crystals, occult symbols and idols to facilitate this process (witchcraft). Many consult with familiar spirits and participate in necromancy (one who consults the dead (demon in disguise). All practices forbidden in the Bible. We will also be looking at many of the Bible verses that deal with child disipline and Proverbs 16:4: 'The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.' Psalm 58:3: 'The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.' & much more.



I think more than once I have seen (videos, not personally) a person reject disciplining there child becuase they believed the child was here to teach us. Students do not discipline there teachers. I think that was the general gist of that issue, and what previous posters have seen in action.

Generalizations aside, this is an interesting claim.


http://www.soulsoothersonline.com/indigo2.html

Interesting site here with some specific claims.


I'm not familiar with this guy but his religious twist is silly.
My children are not evil or demons..

I don't understand where this 'no discipline' attitude comes from. I never let my boys run a muck because they were here to "teach me."
I believe we all learn from each other and sure, we can learn from the innocence of a child, I'm still the parent and they still need guidance.
So, not understanding this negative generalization that indigo's are left un disciplined.

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Mon 01/16/12 10:21 AM

From a video on indigo/crystal/star children.

A sermon by a Dr. Scott Johnson.

To a New Age occultist, every 2,160 years of cyclic time welcomes a New Age that advances a new global revelation. Supposed enlightened humans serve as planetary light bearers who have broken free from (in this case) the Age of Pieces to forge in its place the Age of Aquarius. This Age of Cosmic (or Christ) Consciousness is distinguished by group interplay and idealism (AKA a New World Order). Each emerging New Age boasts a Savior (Maitreya) to lead the world into discovery of the higher self. Today, evolution from embryo-god to Christhood through multiple reincarnations is no more clearly evident than in the phenomenon of the Indigo/Crystal/Star/Rainbow Children. These children are said to be highly evolved, uniquely gifted youngsters whose mission is to teach their elders and, thus, ensure planetary transformation into a golden era of peace and brotherhood. These Indigo children are being helped along by many witches and New Agers to bring about this transformation. They would say that we need the wisdom of the ancients. Most of these children are in contact a 'spirit guide' (demon). Many set forth visions and prophecies. Many use crystals, occult symbols and idols to facilitate this process (witchcraft). Many consult with familiar spirits and participate in necromancy (one who consults the dead (demon in disguise). All practices forbidden in the Bible. We will also be looking at many of the Bible verses that deal with child disipline and Proverbs 16:4: 'The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.' Psalm 58:3: 'The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.' & much more.



I think more than once I have seen (videos, not personally) a person reject disciplining there child becuase they believed the child was here to teach us. Students do not discipline there teachers. I think that was the general gist of that issue, and what previous posters have seen in action.

Generalizations aside, this is an interesting claim.


http://www.soulsoothersonline.com/indigo2.html

Interesting site here with some specific claims.


I've noticed that some (I'm not going to generalize) religious/christian extremists feel the need to label anything that is a belief outside of their own as witchcraft, wicked, a demon.. etc.
It reminds me of a time, that I attended a non-denominational christian church with a friend of mine a few years ago. I was wearing a dress, so I had a visible discordianism tattoo (of Eris, the golden apple and a ying yang) to document the time I delved into Discordianism and Taoism. I think it was the youth pastor that actually approached me about why I had something wicked and from the devil on my skin. I don't even remember my response I was livid. The point is, I just don't understand the ignorance. If you don't believe in something, that doesn't make it bad.

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Mon 01/16/12 11:45 AM
I know things before they happen. I can deduce all kinds of things will occur from my knowledge of the world and the millions of interactions I have experienced.


When I hear the sound of a specific large diesel engine stop directly in front of my house, I predict the doorbell will soon be rung, and I've been right every time. Oddly, this ringing doorbell always takes everyone else present by surprise.

When I noticed a variety of details about two friends of mine, in a relationship, including the fact that they never actually listened to each other talk - I silently predicted their relationship would end within 6 months. Other mutual friends talked about what perfect couple they were and that they'd be together for years. It ended within 2.


I've known a whole bunch of hippies and new-agers who insisted that I was psychic. They were absolutely eager to believe that I had mystical, magical powers, but they refused to believe that I could make accurate predictions about events in their lives using experience, observation, knowledge of psychology, reason and such. When they thought I was psychic, they would listen attentively and naively to my claims, But when I tried to explain the causal relationships behind my predictions they would 'disagree' with my 'logic'.


if you do not write down every guess then you cannot know if your hit miss ratio is beyond the standard statistic mean for guessing.

I urge anyone who thinks they are beyond the standard mean for guessing to do just this


That line of thought, while important in its own right, is completely unrelated to my post. Of course my guesses regarding many topics are well above the statistical mean - thats the nature of making informed guesses.

It seems to me that the testing you are speaking of is only useful in circumstances in which a person has no special knowledge assisting their guessing.

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Mon 01/16/12 12:28 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 01/16/12 12:28 PM
That line of thought, while important in its own right, is completely unrelated to my post. Of course my guesses regarding many topics are well above the statistical mean - thats the nature of making informed guesses.

It seems to me that the testing you are speaking of is only useful in circumstances in which a person has no special knowledge assisting their guessing.
I agree. Deduction/induction was not what I was referring to, but actually having a psychic power.

Even so, documentation is very helpful (necessary?) if you are trying to determine how a spontaneous conclusion was informed.

Many times I will come to a conclusion to later analysis it and then determine the elements which informed that decision/conclusion. Hindsight and all that.

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Mon 01/16/12 12:50 PM

That line of thought, while important in its own right, is completely unrelated to my post. Of course my guesses regarding many topics are well above the statistical mean - thats the nature of making informed guesses.

It seems to me that the testing you are speaking of is only useful in circumstances in which a person has no special knowledge assisting their guessing.
I agree. Deduction/induction was not what I was referring to, but actually having a psychic power.

Even so, documentation is very helpful (necessary?) if you are trying to determine how a spontaneous conclusion was informed.

Many times I will come to a conclusion to later analysis it and then determine the elements which informed that decision/conclusion. Hindsight and all that.


I disagree with my own words in the previous post. I said "only useful", which is wrong. I just meant to say that when a certain prediction has a very high accuracy rate (someone puts water in the tea kettle, sits down and get distracted and I predict the tea kettle will start making a sound...) I don't feel that I need to document this to know that I have a very high accuracy rate.

Regarding my previous statement, I'm sure there are all kinds of ways in which documentation would be useful to other people, or for other kinds of analysis.




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Wed 01/18/12 01:58 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 01/18/12 01:58 PM

I've noticed that some (I'm not going to generalize) religious/christian extremists feel the need to label anything that is a belief outside of their own as witchcraft, wicked, a demon.. etc.
Did you watch that vid? They are supporting these concepts, not bashing them. They themselves (people who posted the vid) self identify as wicken. I think witch and demon are pejorative in some uses and not so much in other uses . . . perceptive perspective.

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Thu 01/19/12 03:46 PM


I've noticed that some (I'm not going to generalize) religious/christian extremists feel the need to label anything that is a belief outside of their own as witchcraft, wicked, a demon.. etc.
Did you watch that vid? They are supporting these concepts, not bashing them. They themselves (people who posted the vid) self identify as wicken. I think witch and demon are pejorative in some uses and not so much in other uses . . . perceptive perspective.


I think you're a bit mixed up. Also, do you mean Wiccan?

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Fri 01/20/12 08:32 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 01/20/12 08:43 AM
I think you're a bit mixed up.
Help me understand.

Edit:
Dam just realized I didn't post the vid . . . doh! Let me see if I can find it.

Edit:
Gota love google.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyqerfTqf1U
Here it is, judge for yourself, I am by no means someone who understands nor shares a conviction in these claims. I am honestly interested in them however.

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Fri 01/20/12 08:51 AM

I think you're a bit mixed up.
Help me understand.

Edit:
Dam just realized I didn't post the vid . . . doh! Let me see if I can find it.

Edit:
Gota love google.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyqerfTqf1U
Here it is, judge for yourself, I am by no means someone who understands nor shares a conviction in these claims. I am honestly interested in them however.


i'm listening now....
way too much religion and god in this

obviously a religious zealot would oppose the concept

I did read the page from the other link...

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Fri 01/20/12 09:39 AM


I think you're a bit mixed up.
Help me understand.

Edit:
Dam just realized I didn't post the vid . . . doh! Let me see if I can find it.

Edit:
Gota love google.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyqerfTqf1U
Here it is, judge for yourself, I am by no means someone who understands nor shares a conviction in these claims. I am honestly interested in them however.


i'm listening now....
way too much religion and god in this

obviously a religious zealot would oppose the concept

I did read the page from the other link...
It is a new concept to me, I am trying to get an understanding of what is the common understanding of indigo, or crystal, ect

Do you have a better link?

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Fri 01/20/12 10:24 AM



I think you're a bit mixed up.
Help me understand.

Edit:
Dam just realized I didn't post the vid . . . doh! Let me see if I can find it.

Edit:
Gota love google.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyqerfTqf1U
Here it is, judge for yourself, I am by no means someone who understands nor shares a conviction in these claims. I am honestly interested in them however.


i'm listening now....
way too much religion and god in this

obviously a religious zealot would oppose the concept

I did read the page from the other link...
It is a new concept to me, I am trying to get an understanding of what is the common understanding of indigo, or crystal, ect

Do you have a better link?


It was all new to me till my 28 year old son hit about 7/8 years old.

http://allaboutindigos.com/
http://www.namastecafe.com/evolution/indigo/reality.htm
http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html

I had to look, haven't really looked into any thing new for years.

I was looking for something on how so many of these kids are diagnosed with ADD and ADHD and even autism.
These kids are the original ritalin babies.
The minute they don't fit in they are diagnosed and drugged.
BIG mistake for the parents. Having made that mistake I have become an advocate for parents.
DON'T DRUG YOUR KIDS!!!!!!!!!

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Fri 01/20/12 10:36 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 01/20/12 10:37 AM
Ladylid, have you seen that documentary about the over prescription of drugs for children? Some serious abuse is being done to some children!

I think it was on ABC or dateline . . dont remember, ill see if I can find a web version.

I think some medications can certainly help, especially if done right, but I agree with your sentiments.


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Fri 01/20/12 10:46 AM

Ladylid, have you seen that documentary about the over prescription of drugs for children? Some serious abuse is being done to some children!

I think it was on ABC or dateline . . dont remember, ill see if I can find a web version.

I think some medications can certainly help, especially if done right, but I agree with your sentiments.




Billy, I have seen ALL the stuff out there about drugging kids.

I agree, some meds are needed.

Not what is being given to these Indigo's, it really messes them up. See, that's the thing, these kids ARE different and when they don't fit in, walk in line and fold their arms properly we drug them.

I would be happy to share my experiences as far as my indigo sons privately. I'll not throw my personal stuff concerning my sons out there for all on this site. I just won't defend myself anymore.

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Mon 01/23/12 07:46 AM
Thanks for the links!

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