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The Aliens did it, sure they did ;)

Well I hope you read the title of the thread. It is about declassified files and documents.

So called "science" cannot state that aliens (non-human sentient life forms.) don't exist. I say they do.

This topic has no place in any other forum.

If "science" is so good, and so smart, then they should have solved this mystery LONG TIME AGO.

THEY HAVEN'T.

Therefore, I don't think much of science as a means to solve mysteries.

Prove your claim that "there is not any actual evidence of aliens ever being on Earth."

You can't because there IS evidence. Lots of it too.

SHOTGUNS! The anti-alien weapon of choice!

IT WAS AN ACCIDENT. DIDN'T YOU SEE THAT SOUTH PARK??? THE ALIENS SCREWED UP. THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT TO THE COWS.

None. I don't have to prove it as there is nothing to prove!
If you have real evidence then show it. There's none.
It is all hot air.

It was YOUR claim that no such evidence exists. In order to correct that claim you would have to say that "You are unaware of any such evidence existing."

But to state that no such evidence exists, as a fact, you would have to support that claim or else reword it.

Yes I did see that episode. It was funny. But they have done that to cows for a long time and they keep repeating it. So it ain't no accident.

But then, the Israel claims it was an accident or mistake that they attacked the USS liberty and got away with it, so I guess the aliens think they can say the same thing and get away with it.

Yep, believe it or not... they did it.

I said no such evidence exists since no one has ever demonstrated any
hard evidence of aliens visiting Earth.

There is nothing for me to prove or disprove.



Show any purported "evidence" - that ought to be a hoot!

You work for the Company. I know what the Company does to evidence.

Therefore, you will not be privileged to see my evidence. I don't want a visit from those creepy men in black.

You do not deserve to see the evidence as you are working with the enemy.

By now I'd wager its several hundred people, not just two.



For the fun of it!

It actually makes more sense to me than flying all over the world hiking the highest mountains, surfing the most awesome waves, or skiing the best hills.

I can't imagine myself doing those things, yet many tens of thousands of people do that. And I could totally imagine myself making crop circles. Fun!

Bravalady, you can help, by posting and responding to science related topics.

Trust me, it is not for a lack of trying.

That's outrageously absurd. First, the crop circles made by humans are scientifically different than the ones made by "strange lights."

Second, if humans were doing it, they would have been caught in the act many times by now.

Lastly, most of these crop circles go unseen and unreported. My sister mowed grass for Big Valley Farms and she found a lot of them. When she asked her boss what she should do, he told her to ignore them and just keep on mowing.

No humans are that stupid that they would go to that much trouble to create a difficult work of art in the field that no one would see or care about.... over and over...

Absurd.

Aliens are doing it.




I'm sure you are joking because you can't actually be serious. There is nothing fun about making a crop circle at night in the pouring rain, which has been done.

Your theory is totally absurd.

Yes, Jeannie. But how many things start as totally absurd theories??

The idea that humans are doing the crop circles is totally unfounded and ridiculous GIVEN THE ACTUAL EVIDENCE.

It is a grasping at straws by people who don't want to hear about aliens or anything unexplained or "paranormal."

They just can't handle it, so they rationalized within their own boundaries of what they have decided to believe.

I have met people who become enraged at the mention that aliens exit. Truly they can't handle it mentally or emotionally.

Which claim is absurd? The idea that the set of copy-cats who have made a hobby out of making crop circles may have reached the size of 'several hundred' is absurd? On a planet with over 7,000,000,000 people on it?

In other words, I'm suggesting that in a group of 10,000,000 people, we might find a single person who has an interest in making crop circles for fun.



The question of whether all crop circles are made by humans is different then the question of 'how many people' might have caught the crop circle making bug.

But to address that question, its very possible that there are numerous ways that humans can make crop circles, which leads to differences in the nature of the crop circles that are found.



Some people have been caught in the act - maybe the less competent, less lucky, or less committed to secrecy.

But why would you assert this? Its very easy for humans to hide in tall plants.



Thats cool. So some humans would have an undying need to have their work discovered immediately, others are glad to have their work discovered but have great patience, and others really don't even care if their work is discovered. They just want to do it.


Plus, for all we know they may have been practicing.




Why do you label that behavior 'stupid' ? Not everyone is motivated by having their work impact others.


I've woken up in the middle of the night to rewrite a portion of a program to make it more aesthetically appealing, though it had no impact on its function and no one else would ever see it. I've written poetry and music for the process of writing it, much of which was never observed by another human.

And in a world filled with drug addicts, video game addicts, abusive parents, and workaholics - why would 'that behavior seems stupid' cause you to doubt that people are engaged in it?




I'm sure you are joking because you can't actually be serious. There is nothing fun about making a crop circle at night in the pouring rain, which has been done.



No, I'm totally serious. If a group of my friends said "Hey, we want to see if we can reproduce this crop circle [points to photo] using nothing more than these tools [points to tools]. Interested?" I'd be so down. Its just the right mix of physical labor, applied math, socializing with geeks, doing something outside, and the (harmless) challenge of secrecy to appeal to me.

First I can't believe that you are actually serious thinking that thousands of humans are responsible for the crop circles. Its laughable.

Second, it is apparent you have not educated yourself about the crop circle subject or the investigators that study crop circles and their findings, or the witness testimonies who have seen the circles appear in the fields after seeing strange lights, and no humans can be found anywhere, and no tracks or signs of humans anywhere.

Sorry, your theory does not fly.

Thousands? Could the fad have spread that far? Its possible. I was thinking 'hundreds' (and said hundreds - please do me the courtesy of not putting words in my mouth), but when you look at something globally, I suppose 'thousands' is also possible.

I do think, however, that the people who like to make crop circles really get into it. They do smaller ones regularly in their area, and they plan out occasional larger ones farther away.

They behave just like any other hobbiest.

Jeez, look at those 'planking' people. Never discount that a group of people may engage in an activity just because it seems stupid to you.



Unfortunately, I have, somewhat. For example, I've seen dozens of websites claiming some mysteriously freakish kind of 'bending' that alien tech can accomplish with plants, which supposedly no human can duplicate. It looks exactly like plants look when they are bent while young, and then allowed to grown. They all use the same small handful of photos to prove their point, and they all refer back to just two or three academic researchers to validate their position - but they cite those researches and each other in such a way as to make it appear that the evidence is much larger than it is.




Is the absence of evidence to be taken as evidence of absence?

Maybe some of those freakish lights are illegally operated hot air balloons, from which the pranksters descend, with their supplies.




Which theory? Can you state my theory?