The stupidity of some people!

http://www.lookdumbass.com/2011/11/25/power-tripping-safeway-security-guard-gets-canned/

“We cannot explain what led a security officer in one of our stores to cite a 4-year old child for shoplifting. We share the parents’ sense of disbelief and outrage that this occurred. Our Division President apologized to the family and the security officer has been fired. Our policies on shoplifting are intended to protect our customers, but they are built on common sense. We are investigating this incident thoroughly to understand how a clear breach of our policy took place, and to determine what further actions are appropriate.”
– Statement from Safeway on Facebook.

So, did he get to waterboard the brat before he was fired?

A more serious note.
Yeah, the dikwad deserved the boot.
I have seen parents with kids in the cart that allow the kids to graze while they are shopping. Then, they put the remains on a shelf before checking out.

asking a kid questions about doing wrong,, HOW DARE HE!!!!!


too bad more parents dont go along with this type of thing, it teaches kids about the reality of STEALING


actually pressing any charges on the kid is outrageous, its the parents who should take responsibility,,,,,,



although, within reason

sometimes a kid is still learning, which adults should help each other teach them instead of continuing to excuse them and make it 'no big deal'

sometimes parents can be in cohoots and USE the children to steal for them, in which case those adults are as responsible as if they stole themself


proper investigation should be used, and proper action taken


my daughter is four, and she can read some and write some and she knows a little about right and wrong,,,,

I think the situation, if it was agreed upon (Which it clearly wasnt) by all adults and no real charges were pressed, would be a valuable learning tool


but you do need the cooperation and approval of all adults FIRST

Ummmm this has already been posted and debated here.................

It's not teaching. It is a violation of many companies policies what this guy did. In fact I don't know anyone who is an experienced LP Agent who would make a boneheaded move like this.

actually pressing charges may be a violation

but
'acting' the real consequences of theft by explaining how thieves are arrested and associating the behavior with being a thief, is a learning tool...

Let's just throw the book at them and lock them up!

HOLY S#IT! When did we start condemning children for being children?

How well does/did your 4 yr old listen to you, or believe deep in their heart at 4 that that was a problem?

S#IT Happens! At 4 they have a whole lifetime to learn, a few misappropreated munchies along the way and we want to lock up the parents and put the child in foster care or what?

Get over the missing munchies and focus on the A$$HOLE who thought he was GOD and terrorized a child!!

when do you start TEACHING them?

I wouldnt lock up parents over munchies and I wouldnt put them in foster care

but stealing is stealing and I would TEACH her about the real life consequence of being a thief,,,

we start when we feel they can understand in our family


my four year old knows not to steal, she has had to have the 'threat' explained to her in side of a store when she tried to steal and mom promised to let her go to jail the next time it happens because thats what happens when people steal,,,



and she has yet to do it again,,,

And this is why the world is going to hell in a hand cart!

We have gotten so controlled and politiclly correct that we say to hell with with the issue of terrorizing a 4 year old and find someone or something to blame a 4 yr old eating a few pieces of fruit on!

Somebodys got to take responsibility for a kid eating some fruit when their hungry, and probably really don't know any better, and ohhhh the friggin guard was just doing his job and got a little out of hand.

The friggin guy terrorized a 4 yr old child...PERIOD!

Poor daddy sees he now has to tell baby that it's not right, when he probably never dreamed her capable of it...ok....

"Excuse me sir, we can't have your daughter eating the fruit...." would have worked! Dad probably would have paid for it!

it sure would have, for some children


for others, it would have just shown them they could do it with no real consequence


and some can afford for their kids to believe that


our family never could,,,


different things 'work' with different children

Kids are basicly bad, let's just lock em all up!

A child who is not parented is one thing, this little girl did NOT deserve what she received, and THIS little girl and what happened to HER is the issue

There is stealing and there is grazing and sampling. Technically in most grocery stores you can sample any consumable product(except for Liquor and Medicine). Who's to say that wasn't a sample.

Grocery stores expect to have this type of loss, it's part of the business. This is not an outright theft like someone coming in and concealing merchandise and going out the door, hell you couldn't really prove intent on the above incudent and if you cant prove intent you have no business making the stop let alone stopping a kid and a kid for something like that.

I have NEVER heard of it being ok to SAMPLE fruit in a store,, how crazy

I have also never heard of it being justified because stores 'expect' it,

but people can raise their own children how they choose, we were always taught that in a public business, if you take something you havent paid for, its stealing

I have worked in Grocery stores in a Loss Prevention and Loss Prevention Supervisor position for many years and every chain I have ever worked for has allowed sampling of all products and factor in a percentage for shrink.

kids are not basically bad, but they must be taught about right and wrong and stealing merchandise , taking it when you havent paid for it, is wrong (with minor exceptions during disasters)


I dont know this little girl or how smart she is, mine has had it done to her(except for signing paperwork) and she is fine, and she is a smart girl who knows not only that stealing is wrong, but now also knows the REAL LIFE consequences of such action,,,

well, thats special, but I have still never seen a store which allowed this as 'acceptable',,,,

Then you may wanna open your eyes next time your grocery shopping.

oh please,,,I have seen them stop people from 'sampling' so obviously its not always 'acceptable'

there are other experiences besides our own,, people forget this too often in these threads

They must have ate the WHOLE package which is different then sampling.

And I am talkinging about more then just my experiences. I know a lot about the grocery industry since I have worked in it for years and I know the policies of the different companies in California and Nevada including Vegas since some of our contracts are in Vegas.