You can't trust a liar. I don't care how many women he screws, but if he lies to his wife about it, he is not trust worthy.

Hilary knew full well what her husband was doing.

I agree that a lot of people lie. But to lie to your spouse about an affair after you promised to be monogamous, is breaking a sacred trust.

In theory, this sounds good

in reality, life is too complex for it to be as it would require that the only trustworthy people would be those who had NEVER lied,, which leaves out pretty much everyone

if the person has claimed to be sacriligeous, that might make a difference

these days though, we know that marriage is not sacred to most people and is daily being made more about LOVE and not about anything sacred,,,, and love is indeed complex,,,

This is not true. There is nothing wrong with lying in many situations. But lying to your spouse about cheating is just STUPID. AND IT IS BREAKING A SACRED TRUST. AND A CONTRACT.

well, I guess it depends upon which 'situations' people feel its ok to lie

some people feel its ok to have oral sex as long as there is no intimacy, some people feel its ok to have flirting and intimacy as long as there is no penetration,,

if we can rate lies by the 'situation' than thats all the more reason not to make a blanket judgement about an affair,,,,or a one night stand, by a married person,,,as we rarely know the whole 'situation' another person is in (married or not)


not to argue that marriage should not be sacred

just making the point that those vows dont necessarily translate absolutely to each person

and there is more to them than fidelity,,,which means it is possible, in all honesty, for a vow to have been broken BEFORE the infidelity, therefore making that a SITUATION in which the one cheated on may be just as GUILTY as the one doing the cheating

fidelity is only one of many parts of the marriage 'contract'. and if its sacred so should all parts be,,, and once one part is BROKEN, does that make the other parts invalid? (as in other contracts)

I don't expect politician to be honest. I do expect them to respect their wives by being honest with them.

If a couple agrees to have an open marriage that is their business. I don't judge people for having multiple sex partners. I just would not respect or vote for a man who lies to his wife and cheats on her.

That's just me.

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And it's a know fact that many wives are willing to look the other way...We really don't know what Mrs. Cain knew or didn't know.....I take more issue with the mistress...a married man could not cheat on his wife without a willing participant...Hell, I might even forgive my husband, but I would hunt her down and well, you get my drift...takes two to tango....

thats understandable

I see marriage as more complex than just the issue of fidelity I guess...

True. Although I heard Cain admit that his wife did not know about it.

But then, he has proven that he is a liar, so you can't take his word for that either.




So if he was the President, I'm afraid I could not believe anything that he says.

thats ASSUMING she knows he is married, which in this case we are lead to believe she did

I still would take more issue with HIM though as he has the 'obligation' to the wife much more so than anyone else does...

Don't blame the mistress. If it wasn't her, it would just be someone else.

it takes two.. we blame a murderer when he murders regardless of what other enemies may have been available and willing to commit the murder



likewise, regardless of whether someone else would be willing to do wrong,, the MISTRESS is the one who did do the wrong and holds accountability

Also Jeannie, when stories of infidelity break like this one did, the guilty party often says whatever the injured party (Mrs. Cain) demands they say when it comes time to make the public statement...As with most things infidelity is not a black and white issue....

No, she is equally guilty if she know the man is married...

Infidelity is a black and white issue. You either did it or you didn't do it.

You either lied about it or you didn't lie about it.

Nothing gray about that.

She did not have any contract with either party. So, I would not call her equally guilty.

In the case of murder, guilty by association...two armed robbers, one fires the fatal bullet...both are guilty on the death....

I disagree. Unless she was married to someone else to whom she made a promise to be monogamous.

Of she is single she is under no obligation and she breaks no promise to anyone.

It is not about who you have sex with, it is about who you betray and break a promise to that makes you untrustworthy.

It is about betrayal of a trust.