Topic: TO HELL WITH THE DEVIL!!
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Tue 11/08/11 04:23 PM





It's easy to defend your so-called "massacres". And to defend your so-called "slavery". That is, if you can get past the standard "free-thinker" mentality.....








Of course it is. All one has to do is post it on the Internet and declare it to be true.

Works well, too, as long as you're preaching to the choir. Or oneself.

But hey, just get some religious nuts to start killing people again in the name of God, or kidnapping people into slavery. Then get back to us and let us know how that worked out.


-Kerry O.



It's easy to defend because people like you interpret the Bible the same way as your so-called "religious nuts"....


So tell you what... Go form your own opinion and state your claim here. You can get your own opinion at evilbible.com lol





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Wed 11/09/11 02:09 AM






It's easy to defend your so-called "massacres". And to defend your so-called "slavery". That is, if you can get past the standard "free-thinker" mentality.....








Of course it is. All one has to do is post it on the Internet and declare it to be true.

Works well, too, as long as you're preaching to the choir. Or oneself.

But hey, just get some religious nuts to start killing people again in the name of God, or kidnapping people into slavery. Then get back to us and let us know how that worked out.


-Kerry O.



It's easy to defend because people like you interpret the Bible the same way as your so-called "religious nuts"....


So tell you what... Go form your own opinion and state your claim here. You can get your own opinion at evilbible.com lol









As usual, all you have to offer in the way of arguments are veiled personal attacks.


:::::Plonk::::::



-Kerry O.

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Wed 11/09/11 02:11 AM







It's easy to defend your so-called "massacres". And to defend your so-called "slavery". That is, if you can get past the standard "free-thinker" mentality.....








Of course it is. All one has to do is post it on the Internet and declare it to be true.

Works well, too, as long as you're preaching to the choir. Or oneself.

But hey, just get some religious nuts to start killing people again in the name of God, or kidnapping people into slavery. Then get back to us and let us know how that worked out.


-Kerry O.



It's easy to defend because people like you interpret the Bible the same way as your so-called "religious nuts"....


So tell you what... Go form your own opinion and state your claim here. You can get your own opinion at evilbible.com lol









As usual, all you have to offer in the way of arguments are veiled personal attacks.


:::::Plonk::::::



-Kerry O.



LOL! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl




You just don't have anything original, huh?





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Wed 11/09/11 08:23 AM
Edited by luv2roknroll on Wed 11/09/11 08:23 AM




So as far as lumping me in with all other Christians, "my creed" and what they have done, and are doing, I dont like being seen as just "one of them". I am new in Christianity, and not sure exactly where I will fall, when all is read, said, and done. And I stated this before, and ill do it again. If I read the entire bible, and find that I cannot live by the ways it requires me to, or dont agree with what ive read, I dont know where I will fall. Probably not a Christian, since Christianity it based all around the bible.

Thats why I also have a thread here, where I can ask questions as I read the bible, to more seasoned Christians, if im not liking what im reading, instead of just ASSUMING things I read. All I do know, FOR SURE, at this point, is THERE IS A GOD, I LOVE HIM, HE LOVES ME, AND WE SHALL NEVER BE APART AGAIN! As to what religion I will end up,if any, only time will tell, and for now, I am in the Christian faith, wholeheartedly.

Guilt trip? Not my style sir. Never intended to even try, sorry you took it that way.

Hopefully you understand me better now, and why I still want to be seen as Roberta, right now, and not "one of my creed".
Time will tell what I become, as far as a label, on my love for God. So please, dont be so quick to assume, you know what im thinkin.flowerforyou



Fair enough, Roberta. Life has a funny way of testing all of us-- if we're lucky, it's a long strange trip to places we sometimes never planned on going. And if we lose our faith along the way, there is often a reason we only understand after a loss.

Remember-- God sometimes writes straight with crooked lines. :)



-Kerry O.
flowerforyou I think we BOTH understand each other better now, and thats a good thing.

Thank you for meeting me half way!:heart:

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Wed 11/09/11 03:33 PM

flowerforyou I think we BOTH understand each other better now, and thats a good thing.

Thank you for meeting me half way!:heart:


Thomas Jefferson said it well so many years ago:



But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782



I think that if your faith brings you comfort and you derive something from it, far be it from me to not accept that it's right for you.

For most of my life, I've felt injured by circumstances involving religion and if I were a Believer, I'd have a difficult time forgiving God for a particular hidden birth defect I had to survive.

Since I don't, I just chalk it up to random chance and just got on with life.

And on my really bad days, I just half-way jokingly recite that fictitous Vulcan prayer from Star Trek:



May your death bring you the peace you never found in life.



Actually, it's not as bad as it sounds.


-Kerry O.

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Wed 11/09/11 05:42 PM


flowerforyou I think we BOTH understand each other better now, and thats a good thing.

Thank you for meeting me half way!:heart:


Thomas Jefferson said it well so many years ago:



But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782



I think that if your faith brings you comfort and you derive something from it, far be it from me to not accept that it's right for you.

For most of my life, I've felt injured by circumstances involving religion and if I were a Believer, I'd have a difficult time forgiving God for a particular hidden birth defect I had to survive.

Since I don't, I just chalk it up to random chance and just got on with life.

And on my really bad days, I just half-way jokingly recite that fictitous Vulcan prayer from Star Trek:



May your death bring you the peace you never found in life.



Actually, it's not as bad as it sounds.


-Kerry O.


JMO

But I think your a very strong,

and wise man.

And I like you!flowerforyou

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Thu 11/10/11 12:01 AM
And who is this jesus,satan,allah,oden....I mean people should know that these are all folk tales..Not to mention books have been written long before any religious/spirituality were ever around...But i have no real proof and no one has real proof that these deities even exist...Gotta have faith is all they say...These deities answer our prayers...That would be interesting to see. Religion is nothing but systematic propaganda...The government uses it to control people and so do the churches...And guess where most of these churches come from? They are "non profit organizations" The government hooks religious mongers up in return for keeping things in control...The perfect plan...What a way to get manipulated.

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Thu 11/10/11 02:26 AM
The way I look at it is simple. Government and religion both follow the same template model of "do as I say, because I say so, or face the consequences". Given that it's not much of a stretch to say the two are one in the same, just one (religion) is packaged as such to make it seem innocent and loving, when in reality it's far from it.

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Thu 11/10/11 03:28 AM

The way I look at it is simple. Government and religion both follow the same template model of "do as I say, because I say so, or face the consequences". Given that it's not much of a stretch to say the two are one in the same, just one (religion) is packaged as such to make it seem innocent and loving, when in reality it's far from it.



Maybe your religion...



Mine teaches compassion, love, kindness, mercy, fairness, charity, wisdom and honesty, just to name a few...




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Thu 11/10/11 03:39 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 11/10/11 03:41 AM

GOD... Is ... ONLY ... Interested ... In ... RELATIONSHIP ...

With ... Us .......... NOT ... RELIGION !!!!!!!! flowerforyou


:heart: R---E---L---A---T---I---O---N---S---H---I---P :heart:


flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



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Thu 11/10/11 03:42 AM


The way I look at it is simple. Government and religion both follow the same template model of "do as I say, because I say so, or face the consequences". Given that it's not much of a stretch to say the two are one in the same, just one (religion) is packaged as such to make it seem innocent and loving, when in reality it's far from it.



Maybe your religion...



Mine teaches compassion, love, kindness, mercy, fairness, charity, wisdom and honesty, just to name a few...






No, I really have no religion to speak of anymore. I am spiritual now more than anything. I have no need for any particular one. Don't need to subscribe to one set of beliefs or hold one book higher than all others to have the qualities you speak of there.

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Thu 11/10/11 03:44 AM


GOD... Is ... ONLY ... Interested ... In ... RELATIONSHIP ...

With ... Us .......... NOT ... RELIGION !!!!!!!! flowerforyou


:heart: R---E---L---A---T---I---O---N---S---H---I---P :heart:


flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou





As long as there is a certain way above all others by which that relationship must be formed, it will ALWAYS be a religion Morningsong. You cannot get around it.

Personal relationships are just that, PERSONAL. If there's only one way to have it, it's not personal anymore. That simple.

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Thu 11/10/11 03:47 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 11/10/11 03:48 AM
C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N-I-T-Y

IS ABOUT THAT R-E-L-A-T-I-O-N-S-H-I-P WITH GOD..... AND NEVER WAS

MEANT TO BE ABOUT RELIGION AT ALL!!!!!


MAN DID THAT!!!!!!!


NOT GOD !!!



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



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Thu 11/10/11 03:52 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 11/10/11 03:55 AM
YES....PERSONAL.

CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A

PERSONAL GOD.



NOT ABOUT A RELIGION WITH A PERSONAL GOD.



:heart::heart::heart:





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Thu 11/10/11 03:54 AM

C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N-I-T-Y

IS ABOUT THAT R-E-L-A-T-I-O-N-S-H-I-P WITH GOD..... AND NEVER WAS

MEANT TO BE ABOUT RELIGION AT ALL!!!!!


MAN DID THAT!!!!!!!


NOT GOD !!!



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou





Yes, man does it, and Christianity is ONE of the roots of it! You do NOT own the rights to God, and the Bible doesn't either. I don't really care what you wanna try and say to make it so, it still doesn't. I can and do fully believe in God WITHOUT subscribing to your set of beliefs or your book, and I'm far from alone in that.


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Thu 11/10/11 03:56 AM

YES....PERSONAL.

CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A

PERSONAL GOD.



NOT ABOUT A RELIGION WITH A PERSONAL GOD.



:heart::heart::heart:







frustrated

But AGAIN, how can it be personal if there's only ONE way? That makes no sense whatsoever. The two ideas are mutually opposed.

I swear this really is not that hard to understand. Personal means PERSONAL, NOT one way and one way only.

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Thu 11/10/11 04:03 AM
Kleisto...

Then it is not for you....



It's only for WHOSOEVER WILL


NOT for



WHOSOEVER WON'T.




flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



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Thu 11/10/11 05:16 AM
You're right, it's not. That's one thing we can agree on. Doesn't mean I don't have my own relationship with God however.

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Thu 11/10/11 05:58 AM


The way I look at it is simple. Government and religion both follow the same template model of "do as I say, because I say so, or face the consequences". Given that it's not much of a stretch to say the two are one in the same, just one (religion) is packaged as such to make it seem innocent and loving, when in reality it's far from it.



Maybe your religion...



Mine teaches compassion, love, kindness, mercy, fairness, charity, wisdom and honesty, just to name a few...




:heart:

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Thu 11/10/11 05:59 AM
<-------- *grabs some popcorn and sits down*

Im just not into the religious fight,

not today,

or REALLY ANY day, honestly.