No what is wrong with the devil? I am very develish.

Im not yelling here Ruth, and certainly not at you!

So thewrongplaces doesnt like the words, because he doesnt dislike or believe in the devil.

Fine, than once he started reading, and was offended, why didnt he just stop reading, and move on.

Why say that your hurt by it, just because you dont agree?

Im not hurt by Satan worshipers, I just dont read what they write, listen to what they say, but im not judging them. They have the right to worship whatever they want to, and its really non of my buisness anyways.

Well, im off to ride my bike to church, IN THE RAIN.

Woooooooooo Hoooooooooooo!

Its gonna be a cold, wet, ride.

Sorry, if anyone got offended here,

I didnt even consider, that could even happen,

my bad!

I spend my entire Sunday after church reading the bible, till bedtime, no music.

And what are YOU saying now?

Im not allowed to do both?

I might also add that telling unbelievers that they can't do things like run for a public office, declaring 'A War On Atheism' or censoring free speech are tricks your creed pulls in America, not mine.

Have a wonderful time. Love ya, (((Roberta)))

Now what is this about.

This thread is crazy,



Its just the words to a song, done by a Christian band called "Stryper", called "To Hell With The Devil", and everyone is getting all bent.



And whats ((((( thewrongplaces )))))?????? How are you hurt by this post thewrongplaces??

Please expain.

Is it unchristian like, to post these lyrics, or what??????

Im not getting any of this silliness??

I just feel that The Light-Bringer, the very creator of humanity, deserves a bit more respect. Of course, I understand that Christian bands will continue to slander Him. After all, it's a cornerstone of their beliefs. Plus, I sort of happen to be closely...let's call it, related, to Him.

I just feel that The Light-Bringer, the very creator of humanity, deserves a bit more respect. Of course, I understand that Christian bands will continue to slander Him. After all, it's a cornerstone of their beliefs. Plus, I sort of happen to be closely...let's call it, related, to Him.

You've made your point and you need to just get over it now. She didn't mean any harm and, quite honestly, I have to listen to your kind slander my God all the time. Be gone now.

Speak of the devil
He's no friend of mine
To turn from him is what I have in mind.
Just a liar and a thief
The word tells us so
I would like to let him know
Where he can go.



To hell with the devil
To hell with the devil


When things are going wrong
You know who to blame
He will always live
Up to his name.
He's never been the answer
There's a better way
I am here to rock you
And to say.


To hell with the devil
To hell with the devil

"Jesus is the rock, that makes me roll"

Stryper

Makes me wish I had my big 80s hair again to whip around.

I may be new to this section, but ive been on Mingle for over 3 years, sir.

As far as "my creed",

I do not believe, it is acceptable, for believers to tell nonbelievers, that they cant do ANYTHING, no matter what it is!

Personally,

I feel that everyone, has the right, to believe anything they want, anytime they want, and shouldnt worry, about what everyone else, is doing.

So dont lump "ME" in with a bunch of actions, I dont support, or would never take. And I know plenty of Christians, who also take the same stand, that I do,

live and let live!

Not all Christians feel the same way sir, and if those actions were taken against nonbelievers, I had no part in it.

That would be like you, holding me responsible for slavery, when I dont have a prejudice bone, in my body. And never will.

With all due respect sir, "check yourself, before you wreck yourself".

You dont know me at all, and I do have a rather unique stand about religion, so dont fail to consider me as an individual, and put me into a group of radical religious people.

My name is Roberta. Nice to meet you. Try getting to know me, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Have a wonderful day!

Well again, Roberta, I'm merely disagreeing with you and holding out, as evidence for my position that one can learn more morality and beneficial knownledge from other sources, things that people have done in the name of Chirst and have used the Bible to justify.

Slavery is a good example. Even our Founding Fathers weren't immune from its wiles. The Bible flat out condones it.

As stated in my last post, the Bible also condones mass murder as long as it was ordered by Old Testament Fundy God. Yet, the same Moses who was commmander of the armies who slaughtered the people of his own wife, brought down from the mountainside stone tablets inscribed with, among other rules, 'You must not kill.'

My grandparents were Fundies, yet they were very racist and could site Bible verses that they claimed justified their prejudice.

That's basically all I'm saying: that one can interpret the Bible to justify all kinds of evil, and that more wars and killing have happened because of a clash of beliefs than for almost any other cause except for the lust for power. And in doing so, I'm showing you why I, who was raised Christian, can't abide its many contradictions and its version of 'Truth'.


So as far as laying a guilt trip on me? Won't work, I know all the arguments and answers from having spent a lifetime of my own family having done the same. :) And I still love them even though they can't fathom how I got to be 'the way I am.' They still came to see me in Intensive Care when I almost didn't make it, and I'd do the same for them.

Because in the end, that's all the really matters-- our connections to our own humanity and our abilities to relieve suffering, not some book that men wrote a long time ago.


-Kerry O.

No, I was quoting a passage from Milton. You're new here, so you don't know about the past discussions about 'The Paper Pope' or the O.T. massacres sanctioned by your God (which, BTW, none of your compatriots has ever successfully defended against).

I might also add that telling unbelievers that they can't do things like run for a public office, declaring 'A War On Atheism' or censoring free speech are tricks your creed pulls in America, not mine.


-Kerry O.

It's easy to defend your so-called "massacres". And to defend your so-called "slavery". That is, if you can get past the standard "free-thinker" mentality.....

So as far as lumping me in with all other Christians, "my creed" and what they have done, and are doing, I dont like being seen as just "one of them". I am new in Christianity, and not sure exactly where I will fall, when all is read, said, and done. And I stated this before, and ill do it again. If I read the entire bible, and find that I cannot live by the ways it requires me to, or dont agree with what ive read, I dont know where I will fall. Probably not a Christian, since Christianity it based all around the bible.

Thats why I also have a thread here, where I can ask questions as I read the bible, to more seasoned Christians, if im not liking what im reading, instead of just ASSUMING things I read. All I do know, FOR SURE, at this point, is THERE IS A GOD, I LOVE HIM, HE LOVES ME, AND WE SHALL NEVER BE APART AGAIN! As to what religion I will end up,if any, only time will tell, and for now, I am in the Christian faith, wholeheartedly.

Guilt trip? Not my style sir. Never intended to even try, sorry you took it that way.

Hopefully you understand me better now, and why I still want to be seen as Roberta, right now, and not "one of my creed".
Time will tell what I become, as far as a label, on my love for God. So please, dont be so quick to assume, you know what im thinkin.