So.... because there are people on the left who are totally irrational and senseless, therefore we should embrace it when people on the right behave the same way?

I think we should reject it from either side.

There are all kinds of nutjobs (racist or otherwise) attracted to both movements.

I get why this guy is saying what he's saying. People did this to the tea party, so he (and others) are trying to do the same thing.

But, just as the entire tea party is not racist, the entire occupy group is not antisemitic.

Unfortunately, not many want to admit that's true for either group, though.

Actually now almost all the former employees of ACORN are now employed raising funds using various guises for the Occupy Everything Goons... Check this out!!!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ex_acorn_operatives_playing_role_s3zSPpX4NnFRoMpEGIxUBK

good for them, its a great exercise of their rights,,,

Great now they have the right to rig votes, enable pimps and do their taxes, enable pimps to run child prostitution rackets... oh deary me what other rights do these purveyors of vice need. Oh that is right Acorn is even into the protection racket business!!! And then there is the Mau Mauer in Chief who was one of their community organizers. Wonder how many rackets that Obamanible Snowjober has been in.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14767

Needless to say these goons and thugs are supporting other goons and thugs. As I have always said birds of a feather flock together.

more of the guilt by association tactic

any idea how many employees ACORN had, or if the ones that are involved with the OWS are the very same individuals accused (and lter cleared) of the allegations arising from that edited farce of a video ?

,, and whether or not that information is known(which I doubt),

how would that be relevant to their support of OWS or somehow make it any less of a valid and reasonable right than anyone else choosing to support them?

They were working for the very same criminal syndicate. Enough said. Goons and thugs stick together.

Let me explain by syllogy

(No guilt by association here)
Acorn is a criminal syndicate.
Persons A and B are members of Acorn
Persons A and B are members of a criminal syndicate.

Guilt by association would be something like this... which at some level involves a inductive fallacy and/or a discordance in a syllogic statement.
(A case of guilt by association)
Michelle Obama is an uncouth classless cow.
Michell Obama is a lawyer
Lawyers are uncouth classless cows

- Just because Michelle Obama who happens to be a lawyer is a classless cow does not mean that lawyers are classless cows. Get it?

Yup, they just have a new name is all.

Acorn, was never convicted of any crime. Members in Acorn did commit fraud though. Therefore is every employee of acorn guilty of fraud or being a criminal,,,,no

Get it?

NOT sure exactally why but this post pissed me off.

Might be the classlessness of insulting a lady simply because you disagree with her husbands political views.



First Lady. That comment in my opinion crossed the line.

ad hominems often do that,,,because they cross the line of logical debate into empty personal attacks,,,

The fraud committed by Acorn was systematic and widespread, no different from the mafia or the drug cartels. Vote fraud and racketeering was a mainstream and systematic within Acorn. Acorn is a criminal syndicate. Oh and remember the rot started at the very top wit the Rathkes.

Top ten net ranks the most notorious charity scams as follows:
10. Tsunami cictim scam
9. VA Tech charity scam
8. Missouri AFCEF Charity Scam
7. The Foundation of Hope Scam
6. French Scientology Fraud
5. Deniz Feneri Foundation Fraud
4. Nigerian 419 E-Mail Scams
3. ACORN
2. Katrina Internet Scams
1. 9-11 Charity Scams

opinion, not fact



still falls in the category of guilt by association to take thousands of people working for an ENTITY and accuse them of the guilt for some who are convicted of wrong doing,,

You have no idea of what guild by association is ... just like the fact that you either not well informed about topic of conversation and also have been known exaggerate or minimize your claims as they fit your ideology.

Remember when you told an untruth about who authored a article you did a copy paste hack job on? Remember trying to weasel out when shown to the deception? Yeah I get it...

At least in my defense, I do make it a point to get under the left's skin because they actually believe that they should be the arbiters of what is right and what is wrong.

On the other hand, in my opinion Michelle Obama lacks class not because I disagree or er er er teleprompter-in-chief which her but because of the how she says and does things. On the other has Laura exhibited a lot of class with the way she spoke and carried herself, her poise. While I disagree with LBJ I thought his Ladybird carried herself with dignity. On the other had I think Nancy R. lacked class (but was not a cow) and Barbara B was a cow (with class).

It would appear the Deux's arguments are fallacious by choice, rather than as a consequence of ignorance.

really? guilt by association is pretty self explanatory

it means , painting someone with the responsibility of what others have done merely by showing they have an association to them,,,

it would be tantamount to saying laura bush was a war mongerer, because she is closely tied (married) to someone known for having campaigned for war

yes, yes, I get it,, anyone who sees differently than you is just not well informed or not intelligent enough ,, etc,,,

Remember the use of the phrase 'facts' are attributed to (or something along those lines), as well as the very TRUTHFUL FACT That the piece was both opinion and fact?

,, no need to be deceptive

and I have no clue how someone can be a cow with class, but the explanation of different levels of insult and compliment is interesting,,,

The syllogy was correct with regard to logical flow... I was attempting to educate.

The arguments are not fallacious as they are at the core fairly truthful in that the left is more prone to violence and bigotry in their protests... a few of which I have been to. Right wing protests are fairly lame as there is no entertainment value attending them, they are not exciting like the leftist ones... no one is topless, no one is raging, no one is spewing irrationality that it is comedic, no fire bombings, they respect the cops enough that the cops are even intermingle with them freely so there are no altercations taking place meaning no one is getting their backsides kicked so there is no fight to watch for free, so I don't do the right wing protests; not much fun.

I do like checking out the left-wing protests. In fact, interviewed some of the protesters at the G8 summit and at the Petroleum conference. There is a definite core group of ideologues and a whole bunch of hangers on who just want to be cool and be a part of something. I can attest that the Chinese Consulate was involved distributing Maoist literature through Chinese organizations during the G8 summit. One idiot called himself a communist so I questioned him about an aspect of Marxist theory. After much hmm-ing and hawing he decided to bring in his "handler". I am guessing that the handler was a good communist because he was distributing little red books courtesy of the consulate. But our good communist friend seemed lost as well not knowing much regarding Marx's dialectic as pertaining to the theory of history. I guess Reagan was correct when he said "How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." However, both idiots probably did not bother reading Marx and were merely third-handers. Communism seems just a fad for some impressionable duds who have not much to do otherwise. The arson, mayhem and carnage they leave behind in their wake is a form of entertainment for them, they seem to enjoy it - all I want to see a few of them get beat up and roughed by the cops; whack 'em and stack 'em. Its hard to find good wholesome entertainment in a corporate city which has the highest rate of residents filing million $ RevCan forms per capita so for excitement we are relegated to counting on the clowns from the left to provide the comic relief.

Wher
Where have you been? These practices have been utilized for centuries......no it doesn't make them right. Just utilized as common practice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ouqhCtIh2g&feature=related